LunarEclipse said:

Yes let's use our nearly maxed out credit cards to buy imported oil products to drive our foreign cars to fight for the best viewing area to watch the Chinese made fireworks contribute to further pollution of the atmosphere and global warming and then jump back into our foreign cars to sit in a huge line of other mostly foreign cars and wait a half an hour idling away more OPEC oil so we can get back on that highway and drive home while savoring the experience of celebrating our independence as a nation.

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fireworks_god said:

LunarEclipse said:

Yes let's use our nearly maxed out credit cards to buy imported oil products to drive our foreign cars to fight for the best viewing area to watch the Chinese made fireworks contribute to further pollution of the atmosphere and global warming and then jump back into our foreign cars to sit in a huge line of other mostly foreign cars and wait a half an hour idling away more OPEC oil so we can get back on that highway and drive home while savoring the experience of celebrating our independence as a nation.

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Lion said:

Don't you agree that this is an accurate (albeit obviously selectively detailed) description of what most Americans spend their 4th of July doing?  I feel as though there is some irony there, if not much fresh substance to be examined.

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It wasn't about fresh substance to be examined, but about the bitchy attitude.

Progress takes time. A lot of people aren't so evolved mentally. Can't be anything but patient and to watch all of the continuous improvements unless you want to count oneself in the aforementioned category.

Lakefingers said:

Yep.

"Shucks, things suck here, but we're free!"

Living in the US (outside of prison) is better than being in a Russian gulag, but you're not free.

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Lakefingers said:

I can state instead the places I have not visited. California, Hawaii, Alaska, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico. I lived in the US for two decades as well.

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That's interesting to know. I'm not sure though how this could be simultaneously amongst your statement that most of the country is a shopping mall where occasionally you can go 65 through the parking lot.

Lion said:

fireworks_god said:

LunarEclipse said:

Yes let's use our nearly maxed out credit cards to buy imported oil products to drive our foreign cars to fight for the best viewing area to watch the Chinese made fireworks contribute to further pollution of the atmosphere and global warming and then jump back into our foreign cars to sit in a huge line of other mostly foreign cars and wait a half an hour idling away more OPEC oil so we can get back on that highway and drive home while savoring the experience of celebrating our independence as a nation.

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Don't you agree that this is an accurate (albeit obviously selectively detailed) description of what most Americans spend their 4th of July doing?  I feel as though there is some irony there, if not much fresh substance to be examined.

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fireworks_god said:

Lakefingers said:

I can state instead the places I have not visited. California, Hawaii, Alaska, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico. I lived in the US for two decades as well.

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That's interesting to know. I'm not sure though how this could be simultaneously amongst your statement that most of the country is a shopping mall where occasionally you can go 65 through the parking lot.

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Lakefingers said:

It's called literary style.

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I can see that, I just didn't find it to be so striking.