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making yourself forget?
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using various memory techniques and metaprogramming i have slowly been wiping away memories from my past. i got this idea from listening to robert anton wilson and the likes, and it is having a strange effect.

i can't cope with a certain period in my life and it haunts me still. i cling to some memories so painful (involving a girl) that i can't understand why i hang on to them. so i decided to stop thinking about them and block them out until i can't understand what the memories are about.

if anyone can give me alternatives with this i'd be happy, because now i have huge foggy blanks in my mind in some parts, where i can't remember what i did in a certain year at all, meaning i have started to forget other things seemingly unrelated to the memories i'm trying to erase.


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Re: making yourself forget? [Re: Bridgeburner]
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A study was just done that pretty much concluded that the whole "let your feelings out rather than bottle them up" is just BS, so I say go for it!  Don't worry about it, just let it go and move on, there's no harm in doing so.

http://www.livescience.com/health/080603-bottle-emotions.html

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Re: making yourself forget? [Re: Newbie]
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Its not a matter of letting your feelings out or forcing yourself to forget, its a matter of reframing events though your minds eye. Get a copy of "using your brain for a change" and learn some NLP.


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Re: making yourself forget? [Re: prototypical_man]
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memories get reframed no matter what. and i don't do any sort of NLP by a book but by what i've learned on my own, but thanks for the suggestion!


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Re: making yourself forget? [Re: Newbie]
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Moreover, when the researchers looked only at people who chose to express their thoughts and feelings, and tested the length of their responses, they found a similar pattern. People who expressed more were worse off than people who expressed less.


While I agree that 'venting' has lately been given the undue status of healthy behavior, I think the title of the article is misleading.  Choosing to not express negative thoughts and feelings does not mean the person is 'bottling it up.'  They could be addressing the feelings directly and letting go in a healthy way.  The study does not account for how they are dealt with internally.

I would not count on being able to remove a memory from your head.  I think it's a completely backwards approach.  Everybody's mind is full of thoughts and memories they'd rather not have.  This is just life.  You can't run from them.  Fortunately, it is possible to develop the ability to accept troublesome thoughts as they arise, and recognize them as the insubstantial, momentary distractions they are. 

It's all about establishing a commitment to keeping your attention on life as it happens, and refraining from engaging every little thought that pops up.  Thoughts have a tendency to snowball, but you can nip this in the bud it you are aware that it is just another habitual thought.  These thoughts are usually alarmist, exaggerated mental reflexes that cannot be avoided.  They beg for more attention than they deserve, so you have to learn how to respond to them in a healthy way.

This kind of work is so crucial to one's sanity, yet until fairly recently there has been virtually zero attention paid to it in western cultures.  It is the domain of mindfulness and meditation, which so many dismiss readily as 'not for them,' only to seek salvation in drugs or other distractions.

Whether you're good at this or not, you can't hide from your thoughts, and you can't a happy life if you are afraid of creating more bad memories.  Every time you avoid something, you give it greater significance and power.  I tried to live that way for years and it made life utterly unbearable.  Salvation is in the other direction, towards acceptance and away from aversion.


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Re: making yourself forget? [Re: WhiskeyClone]
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It's all about establishing a commitment to keeping your attention on life as it happens, and refraining from engaging every little thought that pops up.  Thoughts have a tendency to snowball, but you can nip this in the bud it you are aware that it is just another habitual thought.  These thoughts are usually alarmist, exaggerated mental reflexes that cannot be avoided. 


I think Whiskey has hit the nail on the head here. Everybody has troublesome thoughts, worries about their past or even their present, that routinely entire their minds. This something i've been struggling with myself recently. What I've found that helps the most is to just tell yourself to relax. Everything is going to be OK. Whats happened in the past stays in the past. The only way it can effect your life is if you let it. Albeit, it probably has some internal effect on your personality (subconscious) that you may never be able to get rid of, its not something that you should worry about.

Most worries are just misplaced emotions about your life. The world isn't out to get you, and most things happen as they should. Everyone has problems, and its alright for you to have a few as well. Just accept that fact, and learn to look forward rather than backward.


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Re: making yourself forget? [Re: Bridgeburner]
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i've found ketamine and meditation to be extremely beneficial in this regard.  i used the stuff every day for a couple months, it's a good way to condition the mind into new patterns of thought and perception.  the patterns seem to stick after the drugs have worn off as well, especially when integrated with meditation.

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Re: making yourself forget? [Re: deranger]
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Dang, every day? You shouldn't need to use drugs to meditate and clear your mind. Unless your doc prescribes it to you for a psychological disorder.


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Re: making yourself forget? [Re: BrainChemistry]
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who said i needed it, or used it for the sole purpose of clearing my head?  there's a big difference between addiction and preference.  are you going to tell me people who smoke weed everyday need it, too?  it was the biggest adventure i've ever taken, it wasn't just about "clearing my head".  although it did immensely.

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Re: making yourself forget? [Re: deranger]
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Well to me meditation is about intimately learning about how your brain and body works. Drugs interfere with what comes naturally.

I actually do smoke weed everyday, and no I wouldn't say I need it. I wouldn't get high and then meditate though. Although I guess I could see the usefulness of doing meditation while sober and while drug induced to note the comparison.


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Re: making yourself forget? [Re: BrainChemistry]
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BrainChemistry said:
Well to me meditation is about intimately learning about how your brain and body works. Drugs interfere with what comes naturally.


this isn't just about meditation though, it's about reprogramming old patterns and creating new ones.  ketamine (and other psychedelics) are great tools for this.  i too find great value in meditation while sober, and feel it helps to integrate the information that is processed during altered state, leading to more room for growth.  i don't think certain drugs interfere with our ability to understand ourselves, if used moderately and integrated through meditation they can allow for more awareness of who and what we are.  who is to say they aren't natural keys?

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Re: making yourself forget? [Re: deranger]
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Very true, I consider psychedelics as mind expanding. You think about things in new and fresh ways while under the influence of these drugs. I honestly have never tried ketamine, so I can't vouch for any of its effects. I'm still a believer of moderation though. Each time I trip I feel like a learn a lesson about myself and life in general, and I try to integrate that into my life as much as a possible before I trip again.

I have also, admittedly, used psychedelics for purely recreational reasons given the right circumstances (usually live concerts), but I still feel like I come away from the experience with new insights.


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Re: making yourself forget? [Re: WhiskeyClone]
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WhiskeyClone said:
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Moreover, when the researchers looked only at people who chose to express their thoughts and feelings, and tested the length of their responses, they found a similar pattern. People who expressed more were worse off than people who expressed less.


While I agree that 'venting' has lately been given the undue status of healthy behavior, I think the title of the article is misleading.  Choosing to not express negative thoughts and feelings does not mean the person is 'bottling it up.'  They could be addressing the feelings directly and letting go in a healthy way.  The study does not account for how they are dealt with internally.

I would not count on being able to remove a memory from your head.  I think it's a completely backwards approach.  Everybody's mind is full of thoughts and memories they'd rather not have.  This is just life.  You can't run from them.  Fortunately, it is possible to develop the ability to accept troublesome thoughts as they arise, and recognize them as the insubstantial, momentary distractions they are. 

It's all about establishing a commitment to keeping your attention on life as it happens, and refraining from engaging every little thought that pops up.  Thoughts have a tendency to snowball, but you can nip this in the bud it you are aware that it is just another habitual thought.  These thoughts are usually alarmist, exaggerated mental reflexes that cannot be avoided.  They beg for more attention than they deserve, so you have to learn how to respond to them in a healthy way.

This kind of work is so crucial to one's sanity, yet until fairly recently there has been virtually zero attention paid to it in western cultures.  It is the domain of mindfulness and meditation, which so many dismiss readily as 'not for them,' only to seek salvation in drugs or other distractions.

Whether you're good at this or not, you can't hide from your thoughts, and you can't a happy life if you are afraid of creating more bad memories.  Every time you avoid something, you give it greater significance and power.  I tried to live that way for years and it made life utterly unbearable.  Salvation is in the other direction, towards acceptance and away from aversion.


THANK YOU for that post!

i haven't vented about these memories to anyone because friends have come and gone and i don't feel like telling them that story, i just keep that part buried and not dig it up, just let it be in my past.

i've always had trouble with "trivial thoughts" and not being able to focus. i think it has something to do with my upbringing but in any case sometimes it is a burden and i can't do anything about it, i'm a bit obsessive-compulsive. i recently had a dream, where i gained some superpowers and walked the earth with them (telekinesis, strength, thunder from my fingertips) and all i used that power was useless in turning back time. then i saw a photo of a person from the past and on it was scribbles something like "no living being can compete with a dead memory", i woke up crying.

it certainly snowballs but not as bad as it used to. time heals all wounds i guess. there are days when i am seemingly at peace with the memories and think "we'll thats gone now, i was a different person those days" but some times i just can't help it - i get carried away.

this is certainly a fight for ones sanity, i feel.


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