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Re: Martial Arts [Re: ]
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I really really want to. When I was younger I took tong su do for three years. Then after that I joined tai kwan do. And after that I joined some kickboxing class. The kick boxing and tai kawn do classes i was only in each for maybe a month or two. Then I joined Shadow Warriors Ninjitsu. I know it sounds lame, but it was harcore. By far my favorite out of everything I have taken. I haven't taken anything for about 2 years. It sucks. I'm completely out of shape. I remember back in the day I used to do 200 pushups when I was bored. Every night for about a year I did 100 pushups, 100 leg lifts, 100 sit ups, 100 row boats, and 100 jumping jacks. I was in such good shape. When I get my car insurance I'm definatley joining something. This post has actually inspired me. I'm going to start working out tomorow.


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Re: Martial Arts [Re: ]
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I started studying when I was 9. This started with  Isshin ryu, then Kenpo and then jumped into Tae Kwon Do until I was 18. From there I jumped heavily into Wing Chun, Tai Chi and Various styles of Pentjak Silat. And also studied Jeet Kun Do,Arnis as a result of diving into Silat and Wing Chun.  I am 32 now and still train actively  :smile:

I also took up the study of Chi Kung/ Qi Gong which has personally been the main factor in becoming more "aware" both in the practice of martial arts and in my daily life.
I would hope others would get involved in some form of the martial arts. I believe that under proper guidance the arts can help transform a persons life immensely!

The principles taught apply to all aspects of life. Balance, flow, awareness, .. the list goes on.  Like life that is in a constant ebb and flow so are the martial arts. I went from my early days of hard external styles to internal "softer" styles and then finally found my balance ( at least for the moment) in a combination of all I have studied.  .. wheew.. that was long winded ..

I (usually) refrain from taking psychedelics while practicing BUT while practicing Chi Kung I find that mushrooms aid me in quieting my mind and soul/life force/whatever you want to call it.

peace
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Re: Martial Arts [Re: ]
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I'm taking a jiu-jitsu course.....its pretty fun. I like learning choke holds and joint locks. For about a year after wrestling i stopped doing all athetic things, but i'm starting to get back into the groove now. I do push-ups everynight...not like i need it tho....i'm BUFF

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Re: Martial Arts [Re: ]
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id love to get into any form of martial arts but i find i dont really have the time - which actually means i dont have the nerve

is there an age where it becomes too difficult to just start from scratch? i dont know where to start

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Re: Martial Arts [Re: foghorn]
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You're never too young or too old to start. And you dont have to dedicate your life to it, you can do something as simple as spending ten or tweny minutes a day learning the basics and doing exercises

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Re: Martial Arts [Re: ]
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Martial arts on psychedelics? Thats a new one on me (don't try this one at home kids, at least not untill you're body is strong)
I've trained in martial arts for a little over five years (with some on off periods in between), and always in a shaolin tecknique. I started initially to get fit, tone up and improve self confidence, the martial arts has provided all of this and more, a calm mind able contemplate and reason in less than perfect situations an understanding of my body it's mechanics strengths and weaknesses and years of discipline. For the passed year I had the oppurtunity to study with a monk, thats right a monk from shaolin who has been granted permission by the now abbot to set up a temple (which has been done) and train us europeans in the complete syatem of shaolin. I can't lie it's pain! but I wouldn't have it any other way check the website
www.shaolineurope.org

Finally if you're thinking about starting thats great, just take the next step and find an appropriate trainer. A few words of advice on this one don't just accept that because someone calls themselves teacher that they are any good, go to classes and watch the routines, the teacher should be firm with their students but not overly punitive (remember that prick in karate kid!)
Don't be put off when watching strenous even arduous exercises you will be able to achieve this in time. Shop around, don't be afraid to ask questions, read up and then do it!
Great thread shroomism :smile:
Matial arts and psychedelics you nutter :wink:         


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Re: Martial Arts [Re: Roger_irrelevant]
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I don't regularly train while under the influence of hallucinogens, just thought I'd share the experience as it was exciting for me. I train usually every day and probably eat mushrooms once every three months or so.. it just fell in the regular cycle

Edited by Shroomism (02/15/02 12:44 AM)

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Re: Martial Arts [Re: ]
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Hmmm, I like this thread so bump it goes
www.stadion.com Exellent site! Thomas kurz is a wealth of information.
Check Stretching Scientifically (book), Secrets of Stretching and high kicks with no warmup (vids) The videos are a bit expensive but definately worth the money.


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Re: Martial Arts [Re: Planet Asia]
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I beleive that the technique of "Effortless movement" aswell as pliability and flowingness of the physical state to be important factors in the art of fighting .

P.S. I watched "Twin Dragons" last night - and it was laughably bad .


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Re: Martial Arts [Re: Roger_irrelevant]
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While I do appreciate the philosophy of martial arts, I can not take them seriously as a form of combat. Grappling is much closer to actual fighting than high kicks and such (which is a convenient generalization about martial arts on my part, but I'm trying to make a point). If you've ever watched UFC or any other type of "no-rules" fighting event, you'll see that it's most often the grapplers who prevail. I just want to make that point.

However the true intention of my post is to gather some info/guidance about the more spiritual aspects of the martial arts. I wrestle at the collegiate level right now and I truly believe that wrestling, just like any other form of combat, is a martial art. However, what lacks from my training is the spiritual side of the sport. True, we are trained to defy our limits, but in a fashion more resembling a viking berserker than a cool, collected master of the Eastern martial arts. Is there any way to train my mind like this without a teacher? I imagine it would be very hard to get all "spiritual" and relaxed when you're in the middle of a 7-minute slugfest on the mat with another man who's sole intention at that moment is to destroy you. Similarly, how can a martial artist stay calm in a fight? Sorry if my thoughts are a bit disjointed here but it's pretty late for me and I didn't put too much forethought into this post.

If you manage to catch the gist of what I'm saying, by all means respond.

J




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Re: Martial Arts [Re: ]
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I took Tai Kwon Do for a few weeks when I was younger. HI-YA, acually they seemed much more interrested in my money than teaching.


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Re: Martial Arts [Re: RedHarvest]
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I have taken some Shaolin kung-fu, but not enough to answer your question from that arena. However, I am a competitive racquetball player / teacher. This too, is a form of combat and an art.

Is there any way to train my mind like this without a teacher?
Of course!

I imagine it would be very hard to get all "spiritual" and relaxed when you're in the middle of a 7-minute slugfest on the mat with another man who's sole intention at that moment is to destroy you. Similarly, how can a martial artist stay calm in a fight?
First off, forget the world spiritual as that seems to be a distraction. The goal is to be centered in the moment just as with any form of meditation. Let's take any athletic competition as the emotinal range is the same. Here is what may go through your mind:

Regret: "I should have trained harder."
Distraction: "I don't like this arena, court, referee..."
Projection: "Uh oh, I can't take him, he kicked my ass the last time."
Arrogance: "This match will be easy. This guy sucks."
Humiliation: "If I lose, I am going to look like an idiot."
Fear: "I am in serious trouble here."
Surrender: "God am I tired."
Rage plus many more.

Any of these thoughts will suck energy away from your immediate goal, to score a point or whatever. Practice recognizing these mind-states and not giving them any power or energy. When I see my opponent agonizing over a "bad" call or getting over-anxious or most any self-talk, I know he is mine.

It is THAT simple. Awareness and redirection. You can read a thousand books and take lessons, bu it really is THAT simple. Don't make it mystical and spiritual.



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Re: Martial Arts [Re: RedHarvest]
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Wrestling a martial art?
Of course it is!

Do you need some kind of spiritual involvement to perhaps improve you're skills?
I believe that will and determination can take you a long way in any discipline, but skill fashioned with faith and spiritualism will be of the highest quality. (swami you can explain this one away all you like but It's true, want an example? Shaolin Monks).

I myself wouldn't find any reassurance in swami's cold psychological model, it just dosen't fit in with my kind of thinking or training. Swami you say you've trained in the shaolin style/system, did it involve meditation,qi gong? You don't have to believe in any of it to gain benefit,but, you still benefit. Do you have a scientific explanation for the benefits which people recieve when practicing\following methods within the eastern paradigm?


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Re: Martial Arts [Re: Roger_irrelevant]
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my best fren can grapple like a mutherfucker. hes so damn quick and strong he jus throws you into a choke or an armbar right away. i remember during high skool he would invite all the white jock wrestler boys who were eager to go at it and kick all their asses.
if i was to take martial arts, i would take thai boxing, in japan i used to watch it on TV those badasses are tough


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Re: Martial Arts [Re: Food]
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I'm currently taking basic kung fu. I'm *kicking ass* in the Sucking department. I can barely stand on one feet never mind flow...

I'm fairly confident I'll learn quickly. I'm naturally coordinated..


Edited by ArCh_TemPlaR (03/11/02 03:51 PM)

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Re: Martial Arts [Re: ]
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I did 2, but only for a little while so I'm by no means good at it.

I knew an Indonesian guy who thaught me a little Pentjak Silat, he used to Teach it.
But alas: the Good man was called to God at a way too young age, and that ended it.

Did some Nunchaku-Do for a few months... (A Nunchacu is one of those stick-chain-stick thingies of Ninja Turtle fame) Learned some moves with foam ones, but it wasn't a success... One of the guys gave me a real live wooden one and challenged me to do my stuff with it. Well: I did, fast enough to make them kick-ass whooshes and then managed to give myself a concussion & an half-inch crack into my skull which made me quit right away. (the guy was thrown out, btw)

Well: that's about it.


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