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Re: Neija (internal) martial arts.. any practitioniers? [Re: Squatting_Otter]
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The whole debate about external arts and internal - internal arts are ones that originated in China and external are ones that originated outside of China. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Re: Neija (internal) martial arts.. any practitioniers? [Re: CrazyJulio]
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hehehe nope. You got that completely wrong. shaolin longfist, one of the oldest styles of chinese martial arts is external. As are thousands of other styles, also chinese, that I won't bother listing.

Where'd you get that painfully eroneous information?

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Re: Neija (internal) martial arts.. any practitioniers? [Re: Squatting_Otter]
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there are internal arts in other cultures. i think internal arts were actually created in india and then brought to china where they were perfected. someone feel free to correct me if i'm wrong. i know there are various very wierd forms of internal arts floating around all over the place.


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Re: Neija (internal) martial arts.. any practitioniers? [Re: truekimbo2]
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It is theorized that qi gong originated from an Indian Buddhist priest visiting the shaolin temple. He saw that the monks were fat and unhealthy and as a result were falling asleep during meditation and generally not being buddhists, so he went into a cave for a few years and invented muscle/tendon change qi gong. It was later that the monks started developing martial arts.

This is probably what you are referring to. Chinese medical theory bas been around a lot longer than the shaolin temple, so I speculate that people were doing qi gong before this story, but maybe this is where the physical aspect of the shaolin monks' training came into the picture, and that's why this is a well known story.

there are various very wierd forms of internal arts floating around all over the place.

We may be getting our terms confused. The "internal" martial arts that you refer to may not be "internal" as I'm defining it here. As I'm using the term "internal martial arts" I'm refering to the four main schools of chinese internal martial arts: Xing yi quan, taiji quan, bagua zhang, and liu he ba fa. These share common characteristics that aren't found in arts outside of China and the commonly accepted term to differentiate them from all other systems is "internal."

I've personally never heard of any country other than China developing martial arts anyone would call internal. I'm curious. Do you have some information on that subject handy?

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Re: Neija (internal) martial arts.. any practitioniers? [Re: Squatting_Otter]
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bump :nyan:

Aikido and Daito Ryu Aikijutsu were internal Japanese arts. There's at least two karate guys in Japan who use internal skills.


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Re: Neija (internal) martial arts.. any practitioniers? [Re: yeah]
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:minigun:  won't work against my external


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Neija (internal) martial arts.. any practitioniers? [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
:minigun:  won't work against my external



what if everyone's guns were seized and martial law was declared

YOU'D FEEL LIKE A JACKASS THEN NOW WOULDN'T YOU?


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Re: Neija (internal) martial arts.. any practitioniers? [Re: truekimbo2]
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truekimbo2 said:
also, in my own very limited experiance external arts are useless compared to internal arts, since a person can develope internal power that is infinitely greater than a persons ability to develope external power.


I suggest you gain some more experience if you really believe this.

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Re: Neija (internal) martial arts.. any practitioniers? [Re: Squatting_Otter]
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my girlfriends father is a tae kwon do master, and i'm sure that any form of martial art has both an inward as well as outward focus.  otherwise a master wouldn't be a true master, because it is with the discipline of the self that these arts offer you benefits, and to ignore the inward or the outward would not be a proper study in the first place.

i personally practice yoga, which has 8 limbs of practice that go beyond simply forms/positions.

my dad is interested in qi gong, but i'll try anything that involves breath control in general.


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What she said :
"I smoke 'cos I'm hoping for an
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Re: Neija (internal) martial arts.. any practitioniers? [Re: yeah]
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yeah said:
Icelander said:
:minigun:  won't work against my external



what if everyone's guns were seized and martial law was declared

YOU'D FEEL LIKE A JACKASS THEN NOW WOULDN'T YOU?


:stanhopefacepalm:


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Kupo said:
let's fuel the robots with psilocybin.

cez said:
everyone should smoke dmt for religion.

dustinthewind13 said:
euthanasia and prostitution should be legal and located in the same building.

White Beard said:
if you see the buddha on the road, rape him, then kill him. then rape him again.

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Re: Neija (internal) martial arts.. any practitioniers? [Re: blingbling]
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And none of these win in a face to face fight against 250 pound 'english boxer'


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Re: Neija (internal) martial arts.. any practitioniers? [Re: yeah]
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yeah said:
Icelander said:
:minigun:  won't work against my external



what if everyone's guns were seized and martial law was declared

YOU'D FEEL LIKE A JACKASS THEN NOW WOULDN'T YOU?



No because I was a Non classical Wing Chun instructor in Seattle. :brucelee:

And as if they are going to be able to seize hundreds of millions of guns. :curbyourenthusiasm:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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