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Martial Arts
    #547638 - 02/11/02 10:30 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

So how many of you study a form of martial arts?

I find Martial Arts to enliven the body, mind and spirit. There is a certain freedom to speak of when one can manipulate their body to defend or protect themselves, or simply to tune into your Higher Self.

Currently I study Shaolin Chin Na Qigong and Jeet Kune Do, and occassionally dip into some Long Fist Kung Fu..

I love Jeet Kune Do because it is not limited to any particular style. Bruce Lee created Jeet Kune Do after studying wing-chun style gung fu for the first thirteen years of his life, after that, he went on his own to develop his knowledge into a science, an art, a philosophy, and a way of life. Not only does Jeet Kune Do embody the principles of traditional martial arts, but it employs a vast array of philosophies and artistic approach.

The facts of Jeet Kune Do according to Bruce Lee:
1. Economy tight structure in attack and defense
2. The versatile and "artless-artful" "total" kicking and stricking weapons.
3. The broken rhythm, the half-beat, and the one or three and a half beat. (Jeet Kune Do's rhythm in attack and counter)
4. Weight training and good nutrition, all around fitness
5. Direct movement in attacks and counters - throwing from where it is without repositioning
6. The shifty body and light footwork
7. Unassuming attack tactics
8. Strong in-fighting
- Shifty blasting
- throwing
- grappling
- immobilizations
9. All out sparring and actual contact training on moving targets
10. The sturdy tools through continuous sharpening
11. Individual expression rather than mass product; aliveness rather than classicalism
12. Total rather than partial in structure
13. The training of 'continuity of expressive self' behind physical movements
14. Loose power and powerful thrust-drive as a whole. A springy looseness but not a physically lax body. Also, a pliable mental awareness.
15. The constant flow (straight movement and curved movement combined - up and down, curved left and right, sidesteps, bobbing and weaving, hand circles)
16. Well-balanced posture of exertion during movement, constantly. Continuity between near all-our and near all-loose.

I hope martial artists are more interested in the root of martial arts and not the different decorative branches, flowers or leaves. It is futile to argue as to which single leaf, which design of branches of which attractive flower you like; for when you understand the root, you understand all its blossoming. - Bruce Lee


I am constantly striving to expand my knowledge base through martial arts. It is the process of having no form through the expression of the human body. Martial Arts are just as much mental and emotional, as they are physical.


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Re: Martial Arts [Re: ]
    #547656 - 02/11/02 10:52 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Great post, thanks.


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Re: Martial Arts [Re: Jared]
    #547789 - 02/11/02 01:05 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I would like to get involved, however i have no motivation. I was planning on doing alot when i moved, and since then ive done abslutely nothing, today im going out to find a job, and tomorrow, who knows. I hope it will come back to me and i can actually do stuff, that is something i would like to do though, any suggestions on where, when or how to do so?


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    #547808 - 02/11/02 01:28 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

i used to study tae kwon do... our grandmaster who is a 9th degree black belt would do all these crazy stunts w/chi manipulation. stuff that would normally cut/mutilate/crush or otherwise mortally wound any untrained individual. it always gave me the chills to watch him do that stuff. when i have more time to get back into training i'd like to study that kind of thing more... i always thought that aspect of martial arts was really interesting.


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Re: Martial Arts [Re: tak]
    #547814 - 02/11/02 01:30 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

well i just get real stoned and immitate stuff out of the kung fu movies cos i got the idea from the movie when the guy was watching people and learnming from their styles i probably look like a retard but it's damned fun WU-TANG


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Re: Martial Arts [Re: mariasabina]
    #547914 - 02/11/02 03:18 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I love studying martial arts!! I do a lot of aikido meditation. I am currently studying Karate,Tia boxing and some Gong Fu. I would love to get into Shaolin kung-fu!! it must be amazing!

The best part of martial arts is the phylosophy. In learning to fight, you learn not to fight. Did you find yourself nieve, and a fool before you walked into the wonderful world of martial arts?
It seems now, things I thought were so far out of physical, human reach are now possible with a state of mind. Thing's you could only dream off, can be done using you mind and body. Thing's so many people think are too far to reach become possible. in all this, you find yourself with a new level of understanding about the mind and body. Something not very many people can say for themselves.
the more you learn, the more understanding you seem to have over other people(as they have over you on other things).

I think martail arts can be the most enlightening thing about yourself. I reccomend to anyone to learn it. Don't just learn how to punch and kcik, and kick ass. The most amazing part is the mindframe. Learn the phylosophy, and thrive for perfection knowing it will never be acheived.


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Re: Martial Arts [Re: Glacius]
    #547943 - 02/11/02 03:42 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Well said Glacuis..
I find a lot of people join martial arts for the "kicking ass" aspect of it. I also find that these are the people that don't last long in the sport.
If you are going to pursue a martial art...do it because you want to improve yourself, not because you can show your friends how you can dislocate their arm.
The fighting is the exterior aspect of it, but along with that comes a confidence about yourself, a humbleness, a new look on life, a profound respect for your fellow humans.

Sure... you can kick some ass, but "All vague notions must fall before the pupil can call himself a master"

It's a way of life, a philosophy.




My sparring partner/ best friend is trying to get me to go to China this Summer for a month to study with Dr. Ying Jwing Ming to study Tao Shin Na. I don't know.. we will see. I have to learn some chinese first. (Tao Shin Na is the art of flowing movements, and dislocating muscles and tendons when attacked) Such as you punch me..I dislocate your shoulder. It deals a lot with accupunture pionts and energy vortices in the body which can be used to heal or destroy if used properly. Any given human has some several thousand of these energy points on their body.
Well anyway I'm not going to get into it right now.

Glacius..interested in Shaolin Kung Fu? That's definetely something you should look into.
Here are some links
http://www.shaolin.com/
http://www.shaolinwingchun.com/en/index
http://www.shaolin.nl/


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    #547946 - 02/11/02 03:45 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I find practicing martial arts to be very beneficial to my daily life (I guess that is why I stuck with it for 18 over years now). I don't think the style really matters that much. I belive you are correct stating that martial arts enliven the mind, body, and soul... though not in that order.

By learning martial arts, you start to change your body. You start to stretch out all those muscles.. your body learns to become limber. As you workout you sweat out all those poisons from the body. This leads to drinking more liquids/water which is also healthy. Your coordination gets better, your endurance increases, you get stronger, etc.

As your body starts to change, your mind soon follows. Instead of sitting in front of the TV letting your brain go numb while stuffing sugar and salt into your mouth, you are improving your body. Soon all those stressful events from home and work disappear. While working out yet get in this groove where the world seems to melt away.

As your body cleanses itself, and your mind follows, so does your spirit. You gain confidence in everything you do. Its more than knowing you can kick somebody elses ass... more of an inner peace. Everything seems to be in better focus.

It is rather ironic that the "fighting" part of martial arts is really fairly insignificant. Learning to fight is really only a channel for learning how to control your body, mind, and spirit. Kind of like the karate kid's wax on wax off bit... You are learning one thing to learn another. In the 18 years I have been practicing martial arts, I have only been in one real fight... and it only lasted one punch -grin- (note to bullys... its the small quiet guys that are the most dangerous).



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Re: Martial Arts [Re: ]
    #547951 - 02/11/02 03:47 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Well said:)  Going to china would be great. Study in a temple with some master. It would be quite the expereince. Thanks for the links, and great phylosophy!


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Re: Martial Arts [Re: Glacius]
    #547961 - 02/11/02 03:53 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Ha"it's the small guys". Very good:) so many people dont realize that fighting takes tons of disipline, and practice. usually the big assholes dont know a shit from a hole in the ground, and some small dude, with knowledge and expereince would defeat him. I have never been in any fight, and I think it's just an ego trip.  People are just too nieve, and dont know anything about martial arts.

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Re: Martial Arts [Re: Glacius]
    #548028 - 02/11/02 04:50 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Martial Arts [Re: ]
    #548040 - 02/11/02 05:00 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

So Shroomism 'the Alien' is going to kung fu my ass now, aye? Or maybe Swami? :P

Bruce Lee was the master with three legs. His speed and reaction was inhuman.

EDIT: I/m learning liquid and boogaloo. It's not martial arts but the discipline is there. And it's not easy to do either



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Re: Martial Arts [Re: Seuss]
    #548060 - 02/11/02 05:14 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Well spoken.. Which art are you in?


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Re: Martial Arts [Re: ArCh_TemPlaR]
    #548072 - 02/11/02 05:20 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Of course aliens are very proficient at martial arts. When you understand the Universe you understand yourself and vice versa. Microcosms within Macrocosms and vice versa. So on and so forth...

Bruce Lee was definetely an alien.


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    #548156 - 02/11/02 06:40 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

When you know the universe, you know yourself and vise versa. When you understand the universe, knowing is beyond grasp, for yourself and the universe.

If the question about which art was directed at me, chun-do-kwon tai-kwon-do, thai boxing, and a bit of kung fu.


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    #548352 - 02/11/02 10:52 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

martial arts are fun!


i'm off into the world again today, will probably get back to you crazy folks in a few months. has anyone else noticed that the membership here grows by about a hundred every week?


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    #548809 - 02/12/02 12:35 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Hmm, this post inspired me to maybe start in a kung fu class. Iv'e considered it before, but it kind of disapeared in the wind for me.


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    #548829 - 02/12/02 12:47 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

You get more interesting day by day Shroomism.

Do you ever practice your martial arts on psychedelics, or at least watch videos of Bruce Lee? How is it?

"Shaolin shadowboxing.....and the Wu-tang sword style. If what you say is true, the Shaolin, and the Wu Tang, could be dangerous!"

"On guard....i'll let you try my Wu-Tang style."


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Re: Martial Arts [Re: Learyfan]
    #548940 - 02/12/02 02:56 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Do you ever practice your martial arts on psychedelics,

Yes..actually the last time I ate mushrooms a few days ago, before I began to peak I had the sudden urge to go outside and release all my energy. I went in my backyard and sat next to the oak tree for a while reaching within and then felt overtaken by some unseen force... I jumped up and just started doing jumping kicks and freestyling by myself with the air... man the neighbors must have thought I was on pcp or something.. I was jumping like 5 feet in the air every time. Anyway that was the first time I have taken any hallucinogens in several months and I felt this powerful urge to go spar with the air. It felt really good. Released a lot of energy.

or at least watch videos of Bruce Lee?

Hell yes, Bruce Lee is my role model. I have all his movies.. and several of his books.

How is it?

Fucking amazing.


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    #549641 - 02/13/02 04:06 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Bruce Lee was definetely an alien.

Errrr... o.O Could you tell where you got this?

Yes..actually the last time I ate mushrooms a few days ago, before I began to peak I had the sudden urge to go outside and release all my energy. I went in my backyard and sat next to the oak tree for a while reaching within and then felt overtaken by some unseen force... I jumped up and just started doing jumping kicks and freestyling by myself with the air... man the neighbors must have thought I was on pcp or something.. I was jumping like 5 feet in the air every time. Anyway that was the first time I have taken any hallucinogens in several months and I felt this powerful urge to go spar with the air. It felt really good. Released a lot of energy.

Holy! I wouldn't be surprised! Mush cranks all your systems up, going beyond your normal parameters.

a question about JKD: does the master teach you nutrition? actually gives you a specific diet?

I'm considering taking martial arts..


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