do you think the planes were the sole cause of the three wtc buildings colapse? how about the pentagon, did a plane hit it? did flight 93 crash, or was it shot down as some claim? theres a ton of info out there on this if you look. maybe this has been posted already, if so sorry ignore this post. personally im one of the conspiracy nuts. did you know we knew about the impending attack on pearl harbor before it happened? well certain people in the government did anyway. ok disscus if you wish.
"The reflexive first reaction is incredulity -- how, one asks, could anyone even contemplate, never mind actually do such a barbaric thing?
But before you shut your mind, check the resum?s -- these aren't Generation X geeks subsisting on potato chips and PlayStation. Then look at the case they present." -Robert Steinback, Miami Herald
http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/ -this websites has TONS more information
Scholars Repudiate Official Version of 9/11
Scholars claim government's account violates laws of physics and
engineering.
(PRWEB via PR Web Direct) January 27, 2006 -- An influential group of
prominent experts and scholars have joined together alleging that senior
government officials have covered up crucial facts about what really
happened on 9/11. The members of this new non-partisan association,
"Scholars for 9/11 Truth" (S9/11T), are convinced their research proves
the current administration has been dishonest with the nation about
events in New York and Washington, D.C.
These experts contend that books and articles by members and associates
have established that the World Trade Center was almost certainly
brought down by controlled demolitions and that the available relevant
evidence casts grave doubt on the official story about the attack on the
Pentagon. They believe that the government not only permitted 9/11 to
occur but may even have orchestrated these events to facilitate its
political agenda.
The society includes U.S. and international faculty and students of
history, science, military affairs, psychology, and even philosophy.
According to its spokesmen, S9/11T represents a concerted effort to
uphold the standards of truth and justice and to strengthen democracy in
this nation, which has taken a terrible hit in the aftermath of 9/11,
when "everything changed." Its function is to bring scientific rigor to
the study of 9/11 phenomena.
The members of this group are dedicated to exposing falsehoods and to
revealing truths behind 9/11, "letting the chips fall where they may."
The evidence has become sufficiently strong that they are speaking out.
They are actively devoting themselves to reporting the results of their
research to the public by means of lectures, articles, and other venues.
The society includes numerous notable professors and scholars, including:
* Morgan Reynolds, Texas A & M Professor Emeritus of Economics, former
Chief Economist for the Department of Labor for President George W.
Bush, and former Director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National
Center for Policy Analysis
* Steven E. Jones, Professor of Physics, Brigham Young University,
co-chair of S9/11T and the creator of its home page and its forum
* Robert M. Bowman, former Director of the U.S. "Star Wars" Space
Defense Program in both Republican and Democratic administrations, a
former senior Air Force Colonel with 101 combat missions, who is also a
Catholic Archbishop
* Lloyd DeMause, Director of The Institute for Psychohistory, President
of the International Psychohistorical Association and Editor of The
Journal of Psychohistory
* James H. Fetzer, Distinguished McKnight University Professor of
Philosophy at the University of Minnesota, Duluth, author or editor of
more than 20 books and co-chair of S9/11T
* Andreas Von Buelow, former assistant German defense minister, director
of the German Secret Service, minister for research and technology, and
member of Parliament for 25 years
The society, founded by Professors Fetzer and Jones, who serve as its
co-chairs, is approaching 50 members to date. Fetzer, a philosopher of
science, observed that the government's "official account" is not even
physically possible, because it violates laws of nature. "What we have
been told is fine," he said, "if you are willing to believe impossible
things. Serious scholars don't believe in tooth fairies."
Beyond encouraging its members to vigorously express their concerns on
this score through lectures, conferences, symposia, articles, and books
as well as other access routes that publicize their findings, the
society's initial activities, which are expected to increase in
frequency and intensity, include the following projects and endeavors:
* Professor Jones is refining his influential analysis of the physics of
the collapse of buildings at the World Trade Center.
* Professor Fetzer is editing a collection of new studies about 9/11
that will include contributions from the members of S9/11T.
* A major conference is being planned for this fall to further inform
the American public about the group's most recent findings
Studies by the society's founders and by prominent theologian David Ray
Griffin, who has taken a leading role in exposing false claims about
9/11, are accessible from the association's home page,
www.ScholarsFor911Truth.org. Information for those who may want to join
S9/11T can also be found there.
the following is a press release concerning Scholars for 9/11 Truth. if
you don't want to read the whole thing scroll down to the bullet points
for the meat of their argument.
EXPERTS CLAIM OFFICIAL 9/11 STORY IS A HOAX
Scholars for 9/11 Truth call for verification and publication by an
international consortium.
Duluth, MN (PRWEB) January 30, 2006 -- A group of distinguished experts
and scholars, including Robert M. Bowman, James H. Fetzer, Wayne Madsen,
John McMurtry, Morgan Reynolds, and Andreas von Buelow, have concluded
that senior government officials have covered up crucial facts about
what really happened on 9/11.
They have joined with others in common cause as members of "Scholars for
9/11 Truth" (S9/11T), because they are convinced, based on their own
research, that the administration has been deceiving the nation about
critical events in New York and Washington, D.C.
These experts suggest these events may have been orchestrated by
elements within the administration to manipulate Americans into
supporting policies at home and abroad they would never have condoned
absent "another Pearl Harbor."
They believe that this White House is incapable of investigating itself
and hope the possibility that Congress might hold an unaccountable
administration accountable is not merely naive or wishful thinking.
They are encouraging news services around the world to secure scientific
advice by taking advantage of university resources to verify or to
falsify their discoveries. Extraordinary situations, they believe,
require extraordinary measures.
If this were done, they contend, one of the great hoaxes of history
would stand naked before the eyes of the world and its perpetrators
would be clearly exposed, which may be the only hope for saving this
nation from ever greater abuse.
They hope this might include The New York Times, which, in their
opinion, has repeatedly failed to exercise the leadership expected from
our nation's newspaper of record by a series of inexplicable lapses. It
has failed to vigorously investigate tainted elections, lies leading to
the war in Iraq, or illegal NSA spying on the American people, major
unconstitutional events. In their view, The Times might compensate for
its loss of stature by helping to reveal the truth about one of the
great turning-point events of modern history.
Stunning as it may be to acknowledge, they observe, the government has
brought but one indictment against anyone and, to the best of their
knowledge, has not even reprimanded anyone for incompetence or
dereliction of duty. The official conspiracy theory--that nineteen Arab
hijackers under control of one man in the wilds of Afghanistan brought
this about--is unsupportable by the evidential data, which they have
studied. They even believe there are good reasons for suspecting that
video tapes officially attributed to Osama bin Laden are not genuine.
They have found the government's own investigation to be severely
flawed. The 9/11 Commission, designated to investigate the attack, was
directed by Philip Zelikow, part of the Bush transition team in the NSA
sector and the co-author of a book with Condoleezza Rice. A Bush
supporter and director of national security affairs, he could hardly be
expected to conduct an objective and impartial investigation.
They have discovered that The 9/11 Commission Report is replete with
omissions, distortions, and factual errors, which David Ray Griffin has
documented in his book, The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and
Distortions. The official report, for example, entirely ignores the
collapse of WTC7, a 47-story building, which was hit by no airplanes,
was only damaged by a few small fires, and fell seven hours after the
attack.
Here are some of the kinds of considerations that these experts and
scholars find profoundly troubling:
# In the history of structural engineering, steel-frame high-rise
buildings have never been brought down due to fires either before or
since 9/11, so how can fires have brought down three in one day? How is
this possible?
# The BBC has reported that at least five of the nineteen alleged
"hijackers" have turned up alive and well living in Saudi Arabia, yet
according to the FBI, they were among those killed in the attacks. How
is this possible?
# Frank DeMartini, a project manager for the WTC, said the buildings
were designed with load redistribution capabilities to withstand the
impact of airliners, whose effects would be like "puncturing mosquito
netting with a pencil." Yet they completely collapsed. How is this possible?
# Since the melting point of steel is about 2,700?F, the temperature of
jet fuel fires does not exceed 1,800?F under optimal conditions, and UL
certified the steel used to 2,000?F for six hours, the buildings cannot
have collapsed due to heat from the fires. How is this possible?
# Flight 77, which allegedly hit the building, left the radar screen in
the vicinity of the Ohio/Kentucky border, only to "reappear" in very
close proximity to the Pentagon shortly before impact. How is this possible?
# Foreign "terrorists" who were clever enough to coordinate hijacking
four commercial airliners seemingly did not know that the least damage
to the Pentagon would be done by hitting its west wing. How is this
possible?
# Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta, in an underground bunker at
the White House, watched Vice President Cheney castigate a young officer
for asking, as the plane drew closer and closer to the Pentagon, "Do the
orders still stand?" The order cannot have been to shoot it down, but
must have been the opposite. How is this possible?
# A former Inspector General for the Air Force has observed that Flight
93, which allegedly crashed in Pennsylvania, should have left debris
scattered over an area less than the size of a city block; but it is
scattered over an area of about eight square miles. How is this possible?
# A tape recording of interviews with air traffic controllers on duty on
9/11 was deliberately crushed, cut into very small pieces, and
distributed in assorted places to insure its total destruction. How is
this possible?
# The Pentagon conducted a training exercise called "MASCAL" simulating
the crash of a Boeing 757 into the building on 24 October 2000, and yet
Condoleezza Rice, among others, has repeatedly asserted that "no one
ever imagined" a domestic airplane could be used as a weapon. How is
this possible?
Their own physics research has established that only controlled
demolitions are consistent with the near-gravity speed of fall and
virtually symmetrical collapse of all three of the WTC buildings. While
turning concrete into very fine dust, they fell straight-down into their
own footprints.
These experts and scholars have found themselves obliged to conclude
that the 9/11 atrocity represents an instance of the approach--which has
been identified by Karl Rove, the President's closest adviser--of
"creating our own reality."
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