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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #7396255 - 09/11/07 01:00 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I don't need to corroborate everything I say. You're mistaking opinion for fact


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #7396270 - 09/11/07 01:02 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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No, that's not my point at all. Why do you think we were attacked on 9/11? Because we're free and happy and have flowers in our hair?




Good question. We were supporting sanctuaries that killed iranian(?) well some kind of muslim children, Randall knows this im sure he can explain. But they are in holy wars over there, I wouldnt be surprised if the kids were dead even if we werent over there.


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #7396275 - 09/11/07 01:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't need to corroborate everything I say. You're mistaking opinion for fact




Ahhh....well if you admit it's an opinion and provide no evidence then we have no problem. If you assert that it's fact and provide no evidence then we do have a problem.


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #7396276 - 09/11/07 01:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Haha, right, of course they don't




Show me proof that Bush or Cheney have an economic stake in Halliburton's profitability.





I recon he just surrendered all the stock he held in the company when they awarded Haliburton the contracts

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney

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Halliburton was granted a $7 billion no-bid contract, the execution of which received much scrutiny from U.S. Government auditors along with the media and various political opponents who also scrutinized the awarding of the contract, claiming that it represented a conflict of interest for Mr. Cheney. In June 2004, the General Accounting Office reviewed the contracting procedures and found Halliburton's no-bid contracts were legal and likely justified by the Pentagon's wartime needs.




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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: sublimistri]
    #7396294 - 09/11/07 01:05 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Gastronomicus said:
No, that's not my point at all. Why do you think we were attacked on 9/11? Because we're free and happy and have flowers in our hair?




Good question. We were supporting sanctuaries that killed iranian(?) well some kind of muslim children, Randall knows this im sure he can explain. But they are in holy wars over there, I wouldnt be surprised if the kids were dead even if we werent over there.





Al Qaeda has declared that its main beefs with us are as follows:

1. Our support of and favoring of Israel.
2. Our troops being stationed in the Middle East (especially the kingdom of Saudi Arabia).
3. Our meddling in Middle Eastern affairs in general.
4. Our support of the sanctions which lead to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children.


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #7396297 - 09/11/07 01:06 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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I recon he just surrendered all the stock he held in the company when they awarded Haliburton the contracts





Yes, he did.


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #7396301 - 09/11/07 01:07 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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complicity? wasnt the whitehouse notified some 3 months prior to the incident,
wasnt GWs response a resounding 'meh'




The CIA produces a "threat matrix" every week for the presidential administration to peruse.




it was made by the FBI and wasnt part of any 'scenarios' presented for bush's
entertainment, it was due to suspicious activities of aliens that had obtained
entry under student visas, 'students' that were on the watch list.


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: sublimistri]
    #7396303 - 09/11/07 01:07 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I'm sorry to press, but I didn't ask what Randall thinks, I asked what you think


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #7396306 - 09/11/07 01:08 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Ahh. Even so, do I fault Bush for missing the shit? No. I fault the intelligence agencies though. They should have been more on the ball.


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #7396315 - 09/11/07 01:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm sorry to press, but I didn't ask what Randall thinks, I asked what you think




Im pretty sure most of these are facts
1. Our support of and favoring of Israel. <-- Seems like a fact
2. Our troops being stationed in the Middle East (especially the kingdom of Saudi Arabia). <-- Well known fact
3. Our meddling in Middle Eastern affairs in general. <-- dunno
4. Our support of the sanctions which lead to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children. <-- Fact bin laden even said this himself in one of the videos i watched. When he declared this holy war.


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #7396320 - 09/11/07 01:11 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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I recon he just surrendered all the stock he held in the company when they awarded Haliburton the contracts





Yes, he did.



this 'surrendering of stock' came with a 30 million dollar retirement and the value of the stocks when they were sold.


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: sublimistri]
    #7396328 - 09/11/07 01:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Fuck, I can't even remember what my point was... fucking weed


Anyway, I think it was something like waging war on a country does not punish a seperate group that was responsible, it only enrages them further


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #7396338 - 09/11/07 01:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Upon his nomination as a Vice Presidential candidate, Cheney purchased an annuity that would guarantee his deferred payments regardless of the company's performance. He argued that this step removed any conflict of interest.


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #7396345 - 09/11/07 01:15 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

:shrug:

I still believe he recieves off the book payments. Or even if he doesn't, he abused his power to make his friends richer.


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #7396347 - 09/11/07 01:15 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Fuck, I can't even remember what my point was... fucking weed


Anyway, I think it was something like waging war on a country does not punish a seperate group that was responsible, it only enrages them further




The Bush policy-makers thought that the Iraq war would work out easily and it would benefit the Middle East and America in general. It's unfortunate that they were wrong.


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #7396348 - 09/11/07 01:16 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Ahh. Even so, do I fault Bush for missing the shit? No. I fault the intelligence agencies though. They should have been more on the ball.




they were on the ball, what was the FBI supposed to do, murder bush so they
could go ahead and remove these student pilots from flight school? the oval
office was informed of the situation, they abstained from doing anything, that
shows complicity in any court of law.

if I were planning to rob a bank and you had knowledge of my plan your failure
to report it would have you sitting in the defendants chair along side me as a
fellow conspirator


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #7396353 - 09/11/07 01:16 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yeah, but they used to know they were wrong. Cheney himself said during the first gulf war that entering bagdhad would be a "quagmire." So what changed?


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #7396355 - 09/11/07 01:16 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Fuck, I can't even remember what my point was... fucking weed


Anyway, I think it was something like waging war on a country does not punish a seperate group that was responsible, it only enrages them further




Maybe until they arent there anymore. You know bin laden has to live a paranoid ass life, hes got one hell of a money stack on his head, and weve killed saddam, that shoulda been a wake up call for Bin laden :yesnod:. We pulled saddam out of a hole, bin laden cant keep this hide n seek going for too much longer.


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #7396362 - 09/11/07 01:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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I still believe he recieves off the book payments.




Show me proof. I mean real proof...not conspiracy theory crap.

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Or even if he doesn't, he abused his power to make his friends richer.




You are asserting that the Vice President supported sending U.S. troops to war in order to make some of his friends a few more million? If you are declaring this then show me proof.


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Re: September 11 Wiki Theorys [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #7396364 - 09/11/07 01:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Upon his nomination as a Vice Presidential candidate, Cheney purchased an annuity that would guarantee his deferred payments regardless of the company's performance. He argued that this step removed any conflict of interest.




who bought the stock?


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