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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #7542204 - 10/21/07 10:41 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

it comes down to globolization and the new world order. It wasn't our government. These people are above that in their ways. They are the corporations and wealthy that buy people. They are the contractors and the info structure, the business end of everything. The power plants, the oil refineries, the hydro electric damns. They sell a country on why it's good, and how they will benefit. The only ones that benefit are the builders and the owners. Countries left in debt. If they don't pay up they off the leader, if they off the leader they then install a new one that will follow lead. they look for a country that has valuable assets. Install disrupt corrupt then take over the economics of that region.

For example Jaime Roldós, president of Ecuador, and Omar Torrijos, president of Panama both assassinated in fiery crashes. Why because they did not support the ideals carried out by the top bankers and corporate heads.

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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: Redstorm]
    #7542243 - 10/21/07 10:52 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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What rights have you had taken away from you since Bush became president?




In the time that Bush has been president, we (as in, those resident in the UK) are forbidden from forming protests. Unless you apply for a permit, and agree to stick to only the area the police tell you. In other words, you can protest, as long as no one sees you.


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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: Visionary Tools]
    #7542285 - 10/21/07 11:07 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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What rights have you had taken away from you since Bush became president?




In the time that Bush has been president, we (as in, those resident in the UK) are forbidden from forming protests. Unless you apply for a permit, and agree to stick to only the area the police tell you. In other words, you can protest, as long as no one sees you.




And what of the massive American anti-war protests that transpired in this country? Never saw any of it on the mass news networks.


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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: Visionary Tools]
    #7542310 - 10/21/07 11:15 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Well, Bush isn't responsible for what happens in your country.

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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: Redstorm]
    #7542334 - 10/21/07 11:22 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Well, Bush isn't responsible for what happens in your country.




Fuck me sideways with some cultural reference. You don't say!

As for the protesting being illegal, I hope this article makes it more clear. Fewer and fewer places are people allowed to protest, which works in a similar fashion to the free speech zones in your country (I'll make the assumption that you are from the US)


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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: Redstorm]
    #7542584 - 10/21/07 12:31 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Well, Bush isn't responsible for what happens in your country.




Ironically, Bush isn't responsible for what happens in your country, either.


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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: WScott]
    #7542820 - 10/21/07 01:31 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I love how all of you guys talk down to everyone for having their ideas formed by watching propaganda/bullshit/mainstream news sources, while you take the other side of things and let your ideas be formed by conspiracy/nut/bullshit news sources.

It's all the same. It's all having your ideas formed by someone else, just different ideas.


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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #7542852 - 10/21/07 01:37 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

No, it isn't the same.

The mass media twists and covers the truth to their fit with their agenda.
The 'conspiracy nuts' present aspects of a given scenario that the CNNs and FOXs don't want you to see.

Could you address some of the points I have raised instead of sidestepping them? If you don't, I am sorry, but I will have to start calling you Tucker Carlson. :grin:


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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: WScott]
    #7542862 - 10/21/07 01:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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No, it isn't the same.

The mass media twists and covers the truth to their fit with their agenda.
The 'conspiracy nuts' present aspects of a given scenario that the CNNs and FOXs don't want you to see.

Could you address some of the points I have raised instead of sidestepping them? If you don't, I am sorry, but I will have to start calling you Tucker Carlson. :grin:




Oh ok, so the one you don't like is wrong.

How diluted are you?

Btw, I don't listen to either. Its all pollution in my eyes.


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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #7542891 - 10/21/07 01:46 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Attacking the medium (myself) rather than the ideas expressed is a FOX news staple. Come on, man.


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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: WScott]
    #7542942 - 10/21/07 01:56 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Accepting one side of spectrum blindly is just as bad either way.

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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7542976 - 10/21/07 02:02 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE SAW THE FUCKING AIRPLANES HIT THE BUILDINGS.

IN PERSON.

WHAT THE FUCK.

Geezus Christ, but people are fucking stupid.




Yeah. Lots of people report hearing explosions all over the buildings too right before they collapsed. And lots of people report not seeing an airplane hitting the pentagon, but what looked like a missile.. what's your point? I don't think anyone denies that airplanes hit the towers, what is in serious question is what made them collapse to the ground at nearly free-fall speed exactly like in a controlled demolition. No one has been able to provide evidence yet that buildings such as the world trade towers would collapse completely, simply due to an airplane hitting it.

And all these events set the stage for the War in Iraq and the Patriot Act (which violates a long list of constitutional rights) and also sets the stage for declaring Martial Law.


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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: Redstorm]
    #7542980 - 10/21/07 02:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Redstorm,

On what do you base that?


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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: Shroomism]
    #7543004 - 10/21/07 02:09 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE SAW THE FUCKING AIRPLANES HIT THE BUILDINGS.

IN PERSON.

WHAT THE FUCK.

Geezus Christ, but people are fucking stupid.




Yeah. Lots of people report hearing explosions all over the buildings too right before they collapsed. And lots of people report not seeing an airplane hitting the pentagon, but what looked like a missile.. what's your point?




rofl @ that

did u even watch the video of the buildings collapse? it started at the top and went down, like a chain reaction.

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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: Leanin]
    #7543013 - 10/21/07 02:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Uh yeah. And I also saw little explosions in the videos all over the sides right before and as it was coming down. And it went from a 110+ story building to rubble in ~11 seconds, falling at nearly free-fall speed into the sub-basement levels, just like in a controlled demolition. Chain reaction indeed.


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    #7543017 - 10/21/07 02:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: Redstorm] * 1
    #7543019 - 10/21/07 02:16 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Authoritarianism is inherent in gov't.




How do you figure?

It is my impression that no matter how you dress it, the nature of government is authority.

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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: PJDIDDLE]
    #7543033 - 10/21/07 02:19 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Uh yeah. And I also saw little explosions in the videos all over the sides right before and as it was coming down.




lets see that.






Just one video of it.


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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: PJDIDDLE]
    #7543041 - 10/21/07 02:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

It's terrorists. Go back to sleep America, we have everything under control.
We're going to need to take some of your constitutional rights away, but it's for "National Security", and you'll cooperate if you know what's good for you, if you don't... well you're just a terrorist.

Script, took all of about 2 seconds to find, one of about a billion videos
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/demolition.squibs.wtc1.wmv
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/evidence_of_explosives.htm
http://www.serendipity.li/wtc5.htm

I still am waiting for someone to show me evidence that towers specifically built to withstand the impact of a 707, would collapse completely being hit with a 767, as that has never happened before. (And yes, skyscrapers have been hit by airliners before - they just caught fire, they didn't collapse.)
There is much more evidence to support that the buildings were collapsed intentionally and until someone proves otherwise I am going to believe the most logical scenario.


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Re: Why can't all of the 9/11 conspiracies.... [Re: Shroomism]
    #7543061 - 10/21/07 02:24 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

PS. Remember the Anthrax scare shortly after 911?

- Why were mostly journalists and politicians targetted? Journalists and politicians who were asking too many questions.

- Why did that specific strain of Anthrax come from a government controlled lab within the US?

Go back to sleep America.
The terrorists are coming to get you.


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