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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: Veter]
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Veter said:
i find it hard to take a moderate dose of salvia...you either breakthrough or you don't. After youve broken through, I dont know of anyone that asks for another hit.


This is about right.

I haven't learned anything from salvia. It's too brief and insane to gleam anything specific from it. For me, at least.

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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: supersapien]
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Yeah I'd agree with Veter too. The first time I fought off breaking through. It scared the shit out of me. A hole opened up in the wall I was leaning on, and was sucking me into it. The second time I let go and went for the ride. It was definetly an out of body experience. It took me to a place I knew I didn't belong being. It was like dying, I wasn't dead and wasn't supposed to be there. I'll never touch that again, but if your gonna do it, then do it, 13x out of a bong!


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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: gratefulgere]
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I've had pretty positive experiences on Salvia, so far. When I first got ahold of some, I did it alone in my bed. I fell back through my bed into an abyss, and met a presence. It wasn't scary or comforting it just existed in the abyss. Very interesting entheogen.


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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: Trunkspace]
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IM this dude

redgreenvines

salvia tryed to show me something.... but i couldnt see it
it tryed to teach me something.... but was speaking in tongues

it doesnt teach so as others do, it asks for things in return


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"yet the more i dig, the more i consume, the more i unfold... the less protected i feel.
i am the spit on the hair of the son of an electron, swimming around the nucleus of a cell inside the sperm of a killer bee, and my purpose is as nebulous as why weve been bestowed with the capacity to give a shit" Brandon Boyd


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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: incubaby_421]
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I think Salvia "taught" me way more than any other entheogenic substance. The "lessons" are by far deeper, more memorable and integrable than, say, psilocybin. Most of the people that state that it is just "disconnecting" are doing things wrong, I guess. With Salvia, being in a meditative state, in a dark and silent environment is an absolute necessity to get real effects. You do not need large doses of Salvia in this setting either.

My typical dose of Salvia produces profound insights with eyes closes. But when I open my eyes, I feel almost normal, fully in control and coherent. If I would use the same dose of Salvia in daylight and with open eyes, I wouldn't notice much effects.

Yes, setting DOES play such an important part in the Salvia experience. More so than with any other psychoactive substance.

Edited by heidegger (02/11/06 10:37 AM)

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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: heidegger]
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Salvia takes you into "his" world. "he" is totally in control there and can show you anything and everything. His world is like a magnificent classroom. He will only teach you if he likes your energy. Thats what he takes in return for the lesson. He takes some of your energy because he needs it for power. He replaces it with some of his own more electric energy. You will notice that after your trip.


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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: EquilibriuM]
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"does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics?"


It taught me not to smoke it....


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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: mediman0078]
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mediman0078 said:
"does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics?"


It taught me not to smoke it....



hell yeah  :royalrainbow:


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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: EquilibriuM]
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EquilibriuM said:
Salvia takes you into "his" world. "he" is totally in control there and can show you anything and everything.


You are the first person I encounter that sees Salvia as male, not as female.

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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: heidegger]
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heidegger said:
EquilibriuM said:
Salvia takes you into "his" world. "he" is totally in control there and can show you anything and everything.


You are the first person I encounter that sees Salvia as male, not as female.


I never understood the whole idea of giving it a gender in the first place. It never seemed male or female to me.


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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: Ekstaza]
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I figure female because I've heard female voices whilst on it.


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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: demiu5]
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it took the physical form of my friend and shifted it into an AI biomachine - accordingly since my friend was male, i perceived the entity i was in communication with as male. Interestingly enough because of web indoctrination i do feel sally is female in prescense, if i get introspective i view her as i would view a mother. She is the tao, the ultimate reality from which all creation and destruction that ever is or ever was, was birthed from.


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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: PDU]
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Salvia is harsh and firm with me. Seems to be "male like" with me. I give Salvia a gender because it makes it easier to talk about - not because I think its a male. I have other friends that see Salvia as masculine aswell. Alot of people assume female gender assignment simply because thats what they have read. Others because Salvia nurtures them or seems in someother way feminine. Salvias face gives you no clue about its gender. I dont believe Salvia has gender - it just makes it easier to talk about when you assign one relitave to your experience.


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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: EquilibriuM]
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i think many people learn something from salvia...expecially when their smokin it just to get fucked up, not knowing what it is. One of my friends like this said he went through hell and back when he smoked salvia. He didnt drink or smoke for like 5 months after that experience.

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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: EquilibriuM]
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do you feel that the designation you give it may impact the experience with subconscious expectations?


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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: PDU]
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Not sure if it could impact the experience but it could impact the interpretation of the experience.

Those could also be seen as the same thing depending on your perspective...

I guess the most straight foreword answer I can give you is, I don?t know.

What do you think?


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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: EquilibriuM]
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Im not too sure either - when i first did Salvia everything that terrence Mckenna and John C. Lilly wrote about regarding ultimate reality and god constructs started to make sense... I threw away any perception of "god" that i held before..

Its only recently that ive abandoned "the search for knowledge" and surrendered and accepted that i am here to "experience" and "be"..

That is to say i have no conscious expectations anymore, and i think when i dare to visit sally again, i will be rewarded..

(sorry, thats loopy.)


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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: PDU]
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No man, I get you :smile:

At this point I am convinced that my purpose is to help raise peoples levels of awareness. I know that this may sound arrogant but I am sure that my awareness is a good way beyond that of ordinary man. I feel that going much further by myself is not part of the plan. Now I have to find a way to help raise others. This is incredibly difficult and perhaps my efforts are futile, but I figure its worth a shot...


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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: EquilibriuM]
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man all this talk... my mouth is watering!!

mine still isnt here yet which means i probably wont get it till monday... so i wont be doing it until next saturday.

we shall see.


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"When I'm on LSD and hearing something that's pure rhythm, it takes me to another world and into anther brain state where I've stopped thinking and started knowing" - Kevin Herbert

"Psychedelics let you see the world through a child's eye."

"Experience the liquid realm..."

"The evolution of mankind is in the alteration of consciousness" - Dr. Albert Hofmann

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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: demiu5]
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demius said:
I figure female because I've heard female voices whilst on it.


same... the question is why!?!?!?!

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