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Offlinewizard597
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Salvia was a great disappointment
    #2085538 - 11/08/03 10:40 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I bought 1 gram of salvia 10x extract from ethnogens.com. I smoked half of the gram, and I barely felt anything...i felt some tingles throughout my body and i felt a little bit weird in my brain, but nothing major. All these websites I read say it's a crazy hallucinogen and such, but I felt nothing from it. How much do you have to smoke to trip from salvia? How long does the trip last, and what is the trip like?


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: wizard597]
    #2085553 - 11/08/03 10:54 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

How did you smoke it?

Taking massive bong rips is the preferred method of smoking salvia


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: Organic]
    #2085591 - 11/08/03 11:33 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Most people use a bong to smoke it. A pinchof it should be good..im not sure you might want somebody else to answer that for you. Also which kind of lighter did you use? You are supposed to use the torch lighters for salvia and after you take the hit you keep it in as long as you can. The trip last for around 15 min and some people say that it is better than an LSD trip.


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: Organic]
    #2085594 - 11/08/03 11:33 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, he is right. When I first got my Salvia I smoked it out of a small metal pipe SEVERAL times with no to minimal effects. I then made a small bong out of a water bottle and took in one massive hit and was met with quite a rush and pretty powerful experience. This was only the regular salvia not the extract either. I think the trick is just to get as much smoke into your lungs as humanly possible each hit. Not to say it's impossible but a pipe, for me, just did not accomplish this.


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: Seeker1111]
    #2085635 - 11/09/03 12:01 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Make sure you use a torch lighter as well....salvia has to be very hot for the chemicals to be released.


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: wizard597]
    #2085646 - 11/09/03 12:08 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Salvia IS a poweful hallucinogen, I too was sceptical about the experence reports I read. That is until I had my first breakthrough.

As my peeps above me said, use a water bong and a torch lighter.
You may not have a breakthrough the first time, dont give up.
Salvia is said to have a reverse tolerance effect.
Dont bother thinking about what you are in store for, salvia will knock your socks off.  :grin:


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: Effed]
    #2085679 - 11/09/03 12:33 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

The first time I hit some 10X out of a bong I felt almost nothing, then I smoked some plain leaf weeks later and felt it really strong, after a while I tried some 5X and I REALLY felt it, just wait...you won't be prepared when it happens :eek: 


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: Cubieman420]
    #2086113 - 11/09/03 06:50 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

ok u can use a regular lighter... torch it if ya want, but a lighter is hot enough


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: neophyteshroomer]
    #2086115 - 11/09/03 06:53 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

reverse tolerance effect?!
man as far as my experience, if it dont work for u that first time u try, u dont try again for a while... im a weird guy i guess hehe


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: Effed]
    #2086768 - 11/09/03 03:18 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

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Effed said:
Salvia IS a poweful hallucinogen, I too was sceptical about the experence reports I read. That is until I had my first breakthrough.





Keep trying till you have a breakthrough.
I swore it didnt work either...that is until the one time the walls and ceiling turned into shag carpet and I fell to the floor reeling.


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: longshot]
    #2086885 - 11/09/03 04:49 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, i was skeptical too when my first try with 5x made me feel a bit of a pull to the right and nothing more. Then i was blasted off into my own hyper reality where i was god(the controller, see'er, know'er.), the hyper reality was a factory processing reality blocks into soulless human beings without free will into the real world to be fucked for the corporations private agenda. I was also on Acid and E..

Not that i doubted salvia's power, a few days later i wanted to confirm its power without other hallucinogens interfereing...

I was quickly blasted into oblivion, forgot i was on a drug, had a body, or a mind, or was a human, my friends were flat puddles on the floor with giant google eye's examining me. That was traumatizing.


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: wizard597]
    #2087255 - 11/09/03 07:41 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

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All these websites I read say it's a crazy hallucinogen and such, but I felt nothing from it. How much do you have to smoke to trip from salvia? How long does the trip last, and what is the trip like?



I'm not trying to bash you or anything, but you are really irresponsible. You decide to use a "crazy" hallucinogen and then you don't do any research? You don't even know if the trip lasts 5 minutes (like it does) or 5 hours. You also don't know what kind of effects the drug has, wich is pretty hard to explain with Salvia. Mindblowing works.
If you did some research into the effects you might even have come across a site that explains how to smoke it. A site like this one:
http://www.sagewisdom.org/smokeadvice.html
"How to obtain effects from smoked Salvia divinorum."

It's also very possible that you have bought a crappy extract (the cheapest on eBay maby). Or you might have bought plain leaves. In both cases it will be hard to obtain any effects. Try some 5X extract to begin with. Then 10X if 5X doesn't do it for you. Also try switching vendors, quality varies widely.
Anyway, do some research next time. Good luck with your Salvia. Report back to this thread if you finally experience the full effects.


We are getting a lot of these posts recently, maby a sticky-post would be handy, moderators?


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: Harbinger]
    #2088522 - 11/10/03 03:16 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

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Harbinger said:
Make sure you use a torch lighter as well....salvia has to be very hot for the chemicals to be released.




Definately... was gunna say it myself b4 i read Harbinger's post... lots of people i know who say salvia doesnt work have used reg. lighters... i've had no problems when using a torch lighter.


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: AKA PC]
    #2088586 - 11/10/03 04:27 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

> i've had no problems when using a torch lighter.

I have had no problems with a regular lighter, but I seem to be a minority on this one.


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: Seuss]
    #2088630 - 11/10/03 05:05 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Regular lighters work too. :smile:


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: wizard597]
    #2089030 - 11/10/03 10:21 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Salvia is extrememly potent, yet some users feel nothing or very little first time.
When you break through you may wish you hadn't, I've heard people smoke salvia and use comment like 'fucking hell' and 'oh my god!' :wink:

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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: DreaMaTrix]
    #2089137 - 11/10/03 11:09 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

> You don't take her, she takes you

No kiddin' there. I felt like a wet rat being shaken to death by a dog.


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: Seuss]
    #2089321 - 11/10/03 12:26 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I'm really looking to try it again....I didn't breakthrough my first time, but I'm hoping to my second time. The oddest effect I got from it was that when I felt like my feet were pushing down the ground when I was walking....not quite sure how to explain it.I allso had some nice colorful patterns as well, but no breakthrough....I'm looking to buy some more soon, probably 10X this time.


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: Harbinger]
    #2089796 - 11/10/03 03:13 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I have had many experiences with Salvia.

A while back, I had only a supply of dried leaves. I would smoke bong load after bong load after bong load of this stuff to no avail. A little bit out-of-it and light-headed, but definitely no breakthrough experience.

Next, I tried some standardized 6X and standardized 18X. The dosages were too low for a full breakthrough experience, although I was on the brink of an out-of-body experience. I think the problem was that I was calculating how much Salvia to smoke in order to inhale 1 mg salvinorin A (the active ingredient); a bong load of Salvia 20X has 5 mg salvinorin A, and that's the way to go.

My friend recently bought standardized 20X. Wow. That's all I can say about it. Take one big bong load of Salvia 20X, and blast off! I'm not sure any words could quite have prepared me for a breakthrough Salvia experience, but I feel that I am a more grounded person for having had that experience. (By the way, most of my friends have been tripping off one bong load of mixed bulk 6X and bulk 10X extracts. Use a torch lighter, and hold the hit in for as long as possible. Those are the only secrets.)


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: ]
    #2121089 - 11/18/03 08:59 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I use a regular lighter, I smoke it in joint form, and use a very small amount of 5x and the rest is regular leaf. It's always worked for me, but it's also supposed to be the worst way. I have broken through many times and have hit SALVI (I have no desire to go to the A stage of Amnesia). I'm sorry it hasn't worked for you though. It is simply incredible.


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: Effed]
    #2122564 - 11/19/03 11:33 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

what you call reverse tolerance is sensitization.


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: Psychoslut]
    #2123584 - 11/19/03 06:27 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I ussually end up coming down dripping in sweat almost. Even when I don't get the full effects, I sweat, so i don't believe its just like its that intense and i start sweating, I just think the salvinorin affects the sweat glands. It's a negative side affect to a wonderful drug (my person favorit drug that is.)


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: HIghInOhio]
    #2123905 - 11/19/03 09:09 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I too have not brokethrou.. but i shall not give up! cuz i know it will be worth it on the other side! maybe ill breakthrou this weekend :smile: :bong:


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: ]
    #2123914 - 11/19/03 09:16 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Also another way to experience salvia is to hold in in your mouth sort of like chewing tabacco, for about two hours, it tastes pretty bad but that is the threshold, two hours then you dont get a 5 min trip, u trip for about 12 hours extremely intensely, some say it is second only to DMT, my friend has tried it and said this, i have yet to try this but it is just another method out there,


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: OfaRevolution]
    #2124368 - 11/20/03 03:30 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I dont really know how some people dont break through, natural tolerence or whatever ...

But when ive smoked salvia with people, i would pose them with the situation - Get the smoke from *that* through your lungs as fast and hard as possible. Even enormous bowls, Just power toke that stuff and take the pain, you'll forget about it shortly anyways.


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: neophyteshroomer]
    #2125172 - 11/20/03 01:21 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

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ok u can use a regular lighter... torch it if ya want, but a lighter is hot enough




You CANNOT use a regular lighter. If you dont want to break through, use a regular lighter. Regular lighters are not at all hot enough to break through, i tried it many times. Read shit before you post a false statement like that. Peace


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: roofus]
    #2125282 - 11/20/03 02:13 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Well... really it is hot enough, I have used a regular lighter and broken through, so have others, maybe you just had bad luck or did it wrong. Perhaps you should read up a little more before making presumptuous statements.


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: roofus]
    #2125308 - 11/20/03 02:34 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

> You CANNOT use a regular lighter. If you dont want to break through, use a regular lighter. Regular lighters are not at all hot enough to break through, i tried it many times. Read shit before you post a false statement like that. Peace

I generally only post my own experiences. I have broken through more times than I can count with a regular lighter, 5x standard, my trusty chamber pipe, and a good mental attitude. I am living proof that I do not need a torch lighter to break through. I have read from many others that they have broken through with a regular lighter as well. Perhaps some people need a torch lighter to break though... I don't know... all I can speak for is myself.

Perhaps YOU cannot break through with a regular lighter, but I can.


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: Seuss]
    #2126685 - 11/21/03 02:39 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Yep me too, I also use a regular lighter, with a big flame though.
I really don't think it matters that much, I once tested a torch and it didn't seem to work much better.


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: cybrbeast]
    #2127774 - 11/21/03 03:42 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

salvia can be pretty crazy. but dont do it if you have an anxiety disorder, i have seen people unable to handle it ;p a torch lighter does work best, but salvias effects dont seem to me to be as thoughtful or interesting as other things. it will make you quite confused though, and most of the people i have seen hit the extract are unable to speak for a few minutes. i found it sort of uncomfortable, like i was out of control


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: AKA PC]
    #2132450 - 11/24/03 12:27 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

when dealing with salvia, a bong and torch lighter is ESSENTIAL. Everytime I've come in contact with salvia its been a very pleasant experience. Good stuff  :thumbup: 


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: Psilopleix]
    #2132458 - 11/24/03 12:31 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

> a bong and torch lighter is ESSENTIAL

*yawn* I get so tired of hearing this...

I have only smoked salvia with a bic lighter and a chamber pipe and have broken through every single time. Perhaps the bong and torch lighter are a must for some people, but not for everybody. I have read many other reports from people that have used a regular lighter and a regular pipe with no problems at all. Perhaps it is the bong that forces the torch lighter issue...


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: Seuss]
    #2133216 - 11/24/03 06:32 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Twice I have tried smoking regular plain leaf using a glass pipe and a regular lighter but have only felt very mild effects. I might go out and buy 5x, but I don't want all that plain leat to go to waste. I was thinking I make a bong to try and get bigger hits, does anyone know of any good websites for making home made bongs?


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: chodamunky]
    #2133507 - 11/24/03 08:40 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I didn't break through until I smoked 15x extract from a bong. Then I really knew what salvia was all about!


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: OfaRevolution]
    #2133542 - 11/24/03 08:53 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

The chewing/maceration method will make the trip last longer so more "work" can be accomplished. Maybe a small hit can be had after chewing for around 15 minutes for a breaktrough dose then the "chaw" will give a prolonged dose. For those that feel the Salvia trip is too short, try the Chewing method. Later.


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: medicinebag]
    #2133596 - 11/24/03 09:12 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I posted this in another thread sorry for the double post, but was interested in what other people had to say. it seems like everyone who describes a salvia trip is describing astral travel or an out of body experience. Everything from the disconnection of soul and body to the tunnel effect and crazy "hallucinations". You can do this naturally through shear will if you read up on it...william buhlman is a great author on the subject. I will try some salvia where's a good place to buy it (the extract in the u.s.)?


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: knowuhm]
    #2133601 - 11/24/03 09:13 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

is there a ralphster's of salvia? that would be killer :smile:


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: knowuhm]
    #2133764 - 11/24/03 10:39 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

anyone try a grav bong? That thing showed me mary for the first time, it must be insane to pump a bowl full in 1 hit with a grav bong...


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: chodamunky]
    #2136879 - 11/26/03 05:23 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Choda, you can easily do a quick extraction on your plain leaf.

An older post of mine:
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A real easy way to make a waterpipe is to take a plastic cola bottle. Use a ciggarette to melt a hole in the bottleneck, and at the lower end of the bottle. In the lower hole you diagonally stick a pen with the insides removed. You raise the water so that part of the pen is submerged.
You hold your finger on the other hole and toke through the normal opening of the bottle. You then remove you finger from the other hole and inhale. Its simple, and can be done almost anywhere




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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: OfaRevolution]
    #5772388 - 06/20/06 12:38 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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OfaRevolution said:
Also another way to experience salvia is to hold in in your mouth sort of like chewing tabacco, for about two hours, it tastes pretty bad but that is the threshold, two hours then you dont get a 5 min trip, u trip for about 12 hours extremely intensely, some say it is second only to DMT, my friend has tried it and said this, i have yet to try this but it is just another method out there,




does this work with extract or leaves and do u spit it out or swollow it? i'd like to try this.


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: Toricious]
    #5772447 - 06/20/06 01:02 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Smoking Salvia (5X, 10X, 20X) is very easily done through a gravity bong. I have broken through once on a pipe but after trying it through a gravity bong (with a bic lighter), there is no comparison. After taking the rip you don't even feel uncomfortable with the amount of smoke or the amount of time you have to hold it. By the time you blow out the smoke you are feeling pretty strong effects and 5-10s later, blastoff.


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: ictoasnrnsigwt]
    #5772469 - 06/20/06 01:13 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Oops, I didn't see that this thread came back from 2003. To answer your question:
Ball up a reasonable mass of salvia and tuck it into the side chamber of your mouth in between your teeth, gums, and cheek. Suck on this quid (sp?) for an extended amount of time (1-2 hours), trying to keep as much of your saliva in your mouth to be absorbed.
I don't think anyone does that for extract though. For extract, refer to my gravity bong post or the descriptions of bong usage.

Also, before anyone else says it, use the search function, trust me, all of these questions have been asked before.

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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: mjw0]
    #5772497 - 06/20/06 01:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

The one and only time i've smoked salvia i had a breakthrough experience.  I used a regular lighter, standardized 5x, and really mabey .1-.15g, probobly nothing more.  I used a Gravity Bong, and lit and pulled it really hard, fast suction = hotter cherry, it cashed and i took the hit, held it in for about 10-15 seconds, let it out, and off i went in another 5-10 seconds, it only started as a change in reality, EXTREME Stonage, then right at the end of it my vision broke and i broke through.  I had all of the characterizable Salvia sensations of of lvl 3 or Light Visual state, i was also being very generous on myself as it was my first time, and i didn't want to get a too overly intense experience, so i waded into the pool of Salvia, and i had a wonderful time.....Crazy is all i can say....but amazing :laugh:

GL breaking through.


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: roofus]
    #5772511 - 06/20/06 01:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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roofus said:
Quote:

neophyteshroomer said:
ok u can use a regular lighter... torch it if ya want, but a lighter is hot enough 




You CANNOT use a regular lighter.  If you dont want to break through, use a regular lighter.  Regular lighters are not at all hot enough to break through, i tried it many times.  Read shit before you post a false statement like that.  Peace 




Thats all I use, works perfectly.  :smirk:


edit: I'm an idiot.  :grin:


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Re: Salvia was a great disappointment [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5776109 - 06/21/06 11:18 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

dont use a bong use a glass pipe t hey work the best good hoots and u have to hold the hoot in as long as possible .. worked for me
slavia is a atotaly fucked up high in my opinion i love it


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