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OfflineHIghInOhio
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Ignorant Salvia Haters!
    #2132977 - 11/24/03 04:54 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I love salvia. I love the way my mind works on it. I love the was the world looks on it. I love the things i have realized from my experiences on salvia. Why do so many people hate salvia? Now please, I realize that some people don't like the way salvia makes them feel, and I don't automatically disrespect this feeling, however, lately, I have asked my close friends why they don't like salvia, and I usually get the same old "it makes me feel depressed" answer. I don't do drugs to get a simple high or happy feeling, or a euphoric body buzz (however these are excellent side affects!). I prefer enlightenment and exploring the world, my world, through a different perspective. I am starting to feel that I am a minority in these feelings, and that a lot of the people I like to trip and so on with, just seem to do drugs to escape from the world, and to just not give a shit when they're stoned or tripping. Is this how most of you feel? Why don't you guys like salvia in the least? (Please remember I am not calling you stupid if you dont like salvia)


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Re: Ignorant Salvia Haters! [Re: HIghInOhio]
    #2132990 - 11/24/03 05:01 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Shut up Salvia sucks















































j/k just wanna piss you off if you lke it thats all that matters ur body man


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Re: Ignorant Salvia Haters! [Re: HIghInOhio]
    #2132994 - 11/24/03 05:04 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I don't like it cause it makes me super paranoid and even superer sweaty. But then again, I never broke through.


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Re: Ignorant Salvia Haters! [Re: ChiefThunderbong]
    #2133008 - 11/24/03 05:09 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I got a laugh out of that PIMPtheSYSTEM. Yeah, sweating does suck.


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Re: Ignorant Salvia Haters! [Re: HIghInOhio]
    #2133047 - 11/24/03 05:27 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I think a lot of people don't get the insight/enlightenment experince out of it. Perhaps some people are just looking to get "high" off of it, but it's hard to expect other people to get the samething you get.

I for one, love salvia as well. It's a great place to go when I need to refocus myself on what I need to do in life. Very helpful.


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Re: Ignorant Salvia Haters! [Re: Twirling]
    #2133202 - 11/24/03 06:27 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Most people don't like it, IMO, because they (a) don't break through or (b) they do and it is to much for them to handle. At least those are the reasons given by people that I know personally who have tried it and not liked it. I love the salvia experience. It takes me to a place inside my psyche that is really hard to reach. It has even allowed me to see people that are past away just as clear as if they were really in the room with me.

One more reason alot of people don't like salvia is because it is not a drug that lends itself to group endevors. Or, rather it's not a party drug.


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Re: Ignorant Salvia Haters! [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2133410 - 11/24/03 08:06 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I don't like salvia, I don't know if I'm ignorant or if it just doesn't suit me, but I've broken through twice and haven't enjoyed either experience.  As opposed to seeing the underlying connectedness of things, salvia convinces me that everything is bullshit, and nothing is connected, that all connections are just a hallucination, and that I'll never get back to the connected world, because I finally know the truth, and I'm just going to float in this disconnected void forever.  I don't like that  :frown: 


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Re: Ignorant Salvia Haters! [Re: Noviseer]
    #2133430 - 11/24/03 08:15 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

In low doses its fun just to try once...


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Re: Ignorant Salvia Haters! [Re: HIghInOhio]
    #2133458 - 11/24/03 08:22 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

1) all experiences are subjective. what is awesome to one person
can be hellish to another. i dont enjoy the effects of salvia so much
as going 'out there' and delving into the salvia experience.

2) salvia can be an enormous mindfuck that many (myself included)
find very difficult to deal with. experiencing "yourself" as an inanimate
object, having inanimate objects/plants talk to you, forgetting what
"you" are (egoloss) is not in the normal spectrum of 'drug' experiences.

3) some people don't react to salvia at all, be it through incorrect
smoking technique, poor product, or some other reason. a friend
of mine claims he gets absolutely no effect from salvia no matter
how he smokes it.


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Re: Ignorant Salvia Haters! [Re: ]
    #2134161 - 11/25/03 02:03 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I've broke through on salvia many many times. The experience is just so unenjoyable and un-useful. you are pretty much confined to the floor becasuse you cant stop yourself from falling over. I suppose some could try to get "enlightenment" from this. But in my eyes to get insights from a drug you have to be able to have clear vivid thoughts and connect topics(ie mescaline, shrooms,ayahuasca,2c-t-7.....etc.), salvia just clouds your mind and makes you just forget everything. Thats just me, i cant say everyone will hate it, but i certainly do.


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Re: Ignorant Salvia Haters! [Re: Infrared]
    #2134221 - 11/25/03 03:03 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I'm afraid of salvia. No matter what the dose it's to imposing for me. Always get the same pulling sensation and i don't like it.


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Re: Ignorant Salvia Haters! [Re: Infrared]
    #2134294 - 11/25/03 06:04 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

> I've broke through on salvia many many times.

As have I.

> The experience is just so unenjoyable and un-useful.

I would agree with unenjoyable/difficult, but I wouldn't say it is useless.

> you are pretty much confined to the floor becasuse you cant stop yourself from falling over.

The floor is a safe place to be, though I am usually on a waterbed.  I wouldn't want to risk a regular bed, 'cause the forcefield always rolls me around and I would probably fall right off.

> I suppose some could try to get "enlightenment" from this.

I don't see how.  Salvia takes control of the self, but does not turn off the self (does that make sense?).  I can see this opening peoples mind to possibilities, but I have never been merged with "" while on salvia.

> salvia just clouds your mind and makes you just forget everything.

There is a fine line between breakthrough and amnesia.  :smile:


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Re: Ignorant Salvia Haters! [Re: Seuss]
    #2134308 - 11/25/03 06:25 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I don't know the cause, but Salvia doesn't do a thing to me.


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Re: Ignorant Salvia Haters! [Re: tuco_ramirez]
    #2134355 - 11/25/03 07:22 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

> I don't know the cause, but Salvia doesn't do a thing to me.

I have met one person that is the same. Some people are immune to the effects...


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Re: Ignorant Salvia Haters! [Re: Seuss]
    #2134462 - 11/25/03 08:45 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I'm a big fan of Salvia, I've found that sometimes you just take a bit too much and it's pure confusion. But if you get lucky and get it just right it's beautiful.

Every single trip I take I don't always try to gain enlightenment and a new outlook on life, every once in a while I just like to lay back and see what these drugs can show me.


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Re: Ignorant Salvia Haters! [Re: HeavenlyBlue]
    #2135194 - 11/25/03 02:26 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

i respect salvia more than anything else out there.
people, animals, nothing can do more to you than she can.
when i break through i lose every point of refence to existance and re-evaluate everything. i'm usually very confused during the experience, but afterwards i have all the time i need to analyze them.

i can understand people who do not like the experience, but i think it really helps show you who and what you are.
she has taught me so much.

peace.


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Re: Ignorant Salvia Haters! [Re: trippinlizard]
    #2135226 - 11/25/03 02:37 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

> nothing can do more to you than she can

Try n,n-DMT sometime... :grin:  Everything salvia has to offer and much much more.


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Re: Ignorant Salvia Haters! [Re: Seuss]
    #2135238 - 11/25/03 02:45 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Seuss said:
> nothing can do more to you than she can

Try n,n-DMT sometime... :grin:  Everything salvia has to offer and much much more. 




can you remember that you're on it?
because when im through the veil with salvia, im gone.
:nut: :oogle: 


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Re: Ignorant Salvia Haters! [Re: trippinlizard]
    #2135239 - 11/25/03 02:46 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

> can you remember that you're on it?

DMT takes me to cartoon land, where the elves reign supreme.


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Re: Ignorant Salvia Haters! [Re: Seuss]
    #2135242 - 11/25/03 02:47 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

lol, i'll take that as a no.
:grin:


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Re: Ignorant Salvia Haters! [Re: Seuss]
    #2135248 - 11/25/03 02:50 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I just read terrance mckennas discription on taking the "spirit molecule" and it sounds like an experience I need to go through.


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Re: Ignorant Salvia Haters! [Re: trippinlizard]
    #2138756 - 11/26/03 08:00 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

dammit, i never get very high. I like it, but i smokedsome last night and i thought i saw my speaker move over to the right while i was looking at it, and my friend said i looked i was mentally challenged. i think i drooled a little bit.


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Re: Ignorant Salvia Haters! [Re: Noviseer]
    #2140113 - 11/27/03 10:58 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Noviseer said:
I don't like salvia, I don't know if I'm ignorant or if it just doesn't suit me, but I've broken through twice and haven't enjoyed either experience.  As opposed to seeing the underlying connectedness of things, salvia convinces me that everything is bullshit, and nothing is connected, that all connections are just a hallucination, and that I'll never get back to the connected world, because I finally know the truth, and I'm just going to float in this disconnected void forever.  I don't like that  :frown:   




180 liberty caps did that to me 


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Re: Ignorant Salvia Haters! [Re: Flare]
    #2141283 - 11/27/03 10:24 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I wasnt sure if I loved Salvia before I tried to stay all the lengh of the trip with my eyes closed. Immediatly before taking my hit, I close my eyes and chill. It seems ( in my case ) to make all the not so cool and creepy physical effects disapprear.
You know, all the pulling stuff :wink:
And great CEV Too !

Everyone who never tried this before, TRY IT!

With headphones and some sphongle its just perfect


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Re: Ignorant Salvia Haters! [Re: Gus]
    #2148099 - 11/30/03 10:26 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I tried salvia 3-4 times. I must say every single time was not a good experience. I would lose complete control of myself, such as uncontrolable laughing even tho i wasnt finding anything ammusing at all, extreme ammount of spit production, complete loss of basic motor skills and i felt so sweaty and wet it was discusting. I didnt learn anything while on this drug, but a few of my friends enjoyed it. Everyone is different and i think if you're curious you should try it atleast once, but dont get your hopes up. lol


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Re: Ignorant Salvia Haters! [Re: HIghInOhio]
    #2149754 - 12/01/03 03:07 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

i dislike the hot and cold flashes and the intense sweating. i do enjoy the experience sometimes, but i feel retarded sometimes, i can't compose thoughts, and i just have problems enjoying it (except my first time).

i don't know. maybe it's me. maybe it's my mindset. i might be missing out on something, but i'm fine, i don't feel like i'm really missing much just cause i don't enjoy the physical effects a drug has on me. :-) glad that you enjoy salvia though.


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Re: Ignorant Salvia Haters! [Re: trippinlizard]
    #2150825 - 12/01/03 10:04 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I don't like salvia because i find it literally uncomfortable. It makes me sweat a lot, it makes me have to spit constantly and i find myself itchy as if i was naked beneath an all wool body suit.

I say definitely try it once, it wont hurt you, but it is apparently just a drug that has very different effects on each individual.

And I will concur with the original author about the use of drugs that do more than offer some kind of euphoria. my favorite drug of all time is definitely LSD, but it doesn't make me feel "good" at all, necessarily. I just have some powerful and enlightening experiences given the chance to really let the creations of my mind be, for all i can tell, woven into the fabric of the world around me. You can't escape a thing with a drug like acid, the problems that exist inside you will only begin to appear before your eyes. It is a drug that challenges you to only take it when you are in touch enough with yourself to really let things go free.


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Re: Ignorant Salvia Haters! [Re: HIghInOhio]
    #2150957 - 12/01/03 10:41 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

yea, it took me a few tries, but i finally got it right...and ive had amazing experiences on sally...just insane stuff. But i also have a friend that smokes it, and when he indulges, he just gets a crazy body high, like weed...so its just about all he smokes, because its way cheaper than weed. (this is probably due to the various anti seizure medications that he's on, but whatever works for him)

But for me, salvia done right can really be an awesome thing


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Re: Ignorant Salvia Haters! [Re: AAethiopicus]
    #2150979 - 12/01/03 10:47 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

AAethiopicus said:
I don't like salvia because i find it literally uncomfortable. It makes me sweat a lot, it makes me have to spit constantly and i find myself itchy as if i was naked beneath an all wool body suit.




but other than that i must say i do drugs to experience, not to get away. Exploring your own world is some good shit, and everyone should do it in one way or another.

I find (for myself) that the discomfort of savlia outweighs any gain from smoking it. I liked it a lot more at first, but as time went on i just moved away from it. Also, (this is not 100% verified) i hear it alters the size of your dick and balls, given you do it long enough.

ALL IN ALL shrooms and weed are better IMO, but I dont hate on the salv-salv AIGHT. damn player haters RABBLE RABBLE


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Re: Ignorant Salvia Haters! [Re: AmericaNightmare]
    #2151477 - 12/02/03 09:50 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

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AmericaNightmare said:
he just gets a crazy body high, like weed...so its just about all he smokes, because its way cheaper than weed. (this is probably due to the various anti seizure medications that he's on, but whatever works for him)



Wow that's interesting. You should send your friend to Daniel Siebert for research  :grin:


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