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does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics?
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you guys know what im saying about "teach" you something.... so does saliva also do that?

i ordered 10x standardized from shamanspalace.com.... they have a free gift of some kind with every order as opposed to other sites you had to have a minimum order.

do they always send another psychoactive substance with their free gift... or is it just some junky herbal tea or something?

thanks!


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"When I'm on LSD and hearing something that's pure rhythm, it takes me to another world and into anther brain state where I've stopped thinking and started knowing" - Kevin Herbert

"Psychedelics let you see the world through a child's eye."

"Experience the liquid realm..."

"The evolution of mankind is in the alteration of consciousness" - Dr. Albert Hofmann

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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: agoutihead]
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I would have to say no. Salvia is so disorienting and ridiculous that its hard to get any meaning out of it. You feel so unbelievably disconnected and confused that if you were presented with something important, youd be too dizzy (not literally) to focus on it.
Salvia, to me, is like going psychotic for 15 minutes. It's certainly an experience, and it's something to try for sure, but don't expect it to change your life.

I don't know if everyone feels that way, but I certainly do.


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Let the Demons have their place, if so, it's angels you'll create.

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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: agoutihead]
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IMO it would have to depend on the setting, the dose, etc, etc to be taught something from any type of drug/psychadelic

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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: agoutihead]
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I've learned sometimes you have to go through hell to get somewhere good. That and a kick in the face (everytime I use salvia, this is the feeling) can be a good thing. I've learnt things from salvia, but they aren't things I can put into words...


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channel your inner Larry David

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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: demiu5]
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hmm. interesting... one person said no... couple other say possibly if you can focus and think clearly... if its possible obviously.

is it better to do a moderate dose in order to learn something than to take a high dose and be completly disoriented.

im thinking about doing this by myself in my own house.... the only person i would have sit with my is my fiance... but i dont know if i want to have her see me that way for 15 minutes and freak out cause she thinks im dying or something...

she and i have done many many psychedelics together though... so she knows what kind of a beast i can be.... but i dont want to black out and start throwing my arms around or something as some have proposed and accidentally hit her and she ends up getting hurt.

sometimes by yourself is the way to go. i cant wait for my next mushroom or lsd trip bymyself.

what can i say im a weirdo.


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"When I'm on LSD and hearing something that's pure rhythm, it takes me to another world and into anther brain state where I've stopped thinking and started knowing" - Kevin Herbert

"Psychedelics let you see the world through a child's eye."

"Experience the liquid realm..."

"The evolution of mankind is in the alteration of consciousness" - Dr. Albert Hofmann

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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: agoutihead]
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i find it hard to take a moderate dose of salvia...you either breakthrough or you don't. After youve broken through, I dont know of anyone that asks for another hit.


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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: agoutihead]
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If this is your first time using Salvia...my advice is to take it easy at first. Attempt to orient yourself as much as possible to the effects salvia can have. I know there are infinite possibilities, but at least try; get your feet wet before you dive in. Be comfortable, I like darkness moreso than light...personal preferences. Don't try to get up and move around...just let it floor you.


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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: Veter]
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say doing a certain amount of the 10x doesnt do much for me.. couldnt i just double up on the amount of the 10x instead of having to reorder a new 20x or 30x extract???


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"When I'm on LSD and hearing something that's pure rhythm, it takes me to another world and into anther brain state where I've stopped thinking and started knowing" - Kevin Herbert

"Psychedelics let you see the world through a child's eye."

"Experience the liquid realm..."

"The evolution of mankind is in the alteration of consciousness" - Dr. Albert Hofmann

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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: agoutihead]
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I'm sure you've heard about the "reverse tolerance" salvia has. If it doesn't do anything the first time, smoke another bowl of it (probably one hit). I prefer to use my water bong because I get little effect using my pipe. Technically, I guess you could double up...but it could turn out to be more than you want. One hit at a time is the way I like to do it, but, again, that's just personal preference.

Also, I don't know about others here, but I do not like mixing cannabis and salvia. Actually, I was told during one of my salvia trips not to use them both at the same time...so I listen to that voice now.


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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: demiu5]
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i love weed... weed is my "classic" drug of choice.. while psychedelics are my "favorite" drug of choice.

i smoke weed everyday.... and definitally when im doing psychedelics... but for salvia i will be stone cold sober when i do it to get its full effects.

how often can you smoke salvia to obtain the same desired results?

once a day? once a week? several times a day?

whats the limit? when does it lose its "potency"?


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"When I'm on LSD and hearing something that's pure rhythm, it takes me to another world and into anther brain state where I've stopped thinking and started knowing" - Kevin Herbert

"Psychedelics let you see the world through a child's eye."

"Experience the liquid realm..."

"The evolution of mankind is in the alteration of consciousness" - Dr. Albert Hofmann

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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: agoutihead]
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Salvia is deffinitly the most intense trip I've had to this day. You can feel the effects taking hold, and then once it has you it will bend and stretch you in every way imaginable. It was quite mindblowing, almost like an OBE (guessing). Be careful, the door will hit you on your way out if you aren't respectful.

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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: agoutihead]
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YES!!

salvia breakthrough can be like a glimpse at "the big picture" behind the illusion of ego, and self.


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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: agoutihead]
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There is a reason the natives call her "the teacher plant" 

I believe she is teaching us to dream, to travel, to heal, to treat each other better, that we all go to the same place (among other things); but hey I'm just some crazy hippie on the net :wink:


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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: schmutzen]
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hmm all very intersting... i cant wait!

have any of you guys done this alone?

or done it alone the first time?


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"When I'm on LSD and hearing something that's pure rhythm, it takes me to another world and into anther brain state where I've stopped thinking and started knowing" - Kevin Herbert

"Psychedelics let you see the world through a child's eye."

"Experience the liquid realm..."

"The evolution of mankind is in the alteration of consciousness" - Dr. Albert Hofmann

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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: agoutihead]
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I did it alone the first time. And I've done it alone a few other times, and I'll probably be doing it tonight or tomorrow night...it's been over a month since the last time.

Edit: For me, using Salvia with other people around is too weird. I get warm and sweat a fair amount. Any time I've done it with people, it seems like they shouldn't be there...at all.


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Edited by demius (02/10/06 11:57 AM)

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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: agoutihead]
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didn't teach me shit. only thing i got taught by salvia is how to be really fucked up for a few minutes. mushrooms are definately more of an ego-loss, ''thinking about life'' kind of drug.

atleast for me.

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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: duggan18]
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salvia IS a teacher. you can learn many things from a teacher of this caliber. Everyway salvia affects you is a lesson, they way you feel, the way you move, what you hear, what you see... I believe a great shaman once said 'It doesn?t matter how much you reveal, what matters is the personal power of those you reveal it to.'

You will get from it what your level of awareness allows you to get from it.


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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: EquilibriuM]
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man im SO pumped to try such a new and different LEGAl mind blowing drug.


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"When I'm on LSD and hearing something that's pure rhythm, it takes me to another world and into anther brain state where I've stopped thinking and started knowing" - Kevin Herbert

"Psychedelics let you see the world through a child's eye."

"Experience the liquid realm..."

"The evolution of mankind is in the alteration of consciousness" - Dr. Albert Hofmann

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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: agoutihead]
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salvia is an IMMENSE learning tool

you just need to do it in the right setting.

its up there with DMT and very high dose acid trips with the mindblowing revelations it can give you.

but that's only if you use it right.

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Re: does salvia "teach" you something like other psychedelics? [Re: dubbyah]
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well i used to do drugs to just get fucked up... now after going to the symposium... i realize the tools they are and have a completly different mind set for their use.

i turn into a mad scientist when im on it.


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"When I'm on LSD and hearing something that's pure rhythm, it takes me to another world and into anther brain state where I've stopped thinking and started knowing" - Kevin Herbert

"Psychedelics let you see the world through a child's eye."

"Experience the liquid realm..."

"The evolution of mankind is in the alteration of consciousness" - Dr. Albert Hofmann

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