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2012
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Don't believe the hype, nothing will happen.


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I am Ubik. Before the universe was, I am. I made the suns. I made the worlds. I created the lives and the places they inhabit; I move them here, I put them there. They go as I say, they do as I tell them. I am the word and my name is never spoken, the name which no one knows. I am called Ubik, but that is not my name. I am. I shall always be.

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Re: 2012 [Re: JoeChip]
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So what makes your statment, one without any proof, any more valid than someone saying:

"Believe it! Something big will happen in 2012!"

?


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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.

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Re: 2012 [Re: trendal]
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trendal said:
So what makes your statment, one without any proof, any more valid than someone saying:

"Believe it! Something big will happen in 2012!"

?


Questions have been asked and replied to by various entities...


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I am Ubik. Before the universe was, I am. I made the suns. I made the worlds. I created the lives and the places they inhabit; I move them here, I put them there. They go as I say, they do as I tell them. I am the word and my name is never spoken, the name which no one knows. I am called Ubik, but that is not my name. I am. I shall always be.

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Re: 2012 [Re: JoeChip]
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NOTHING will happen in 2012??? That sucks. So the universe ceases to exist? What a grim outlook.


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Re: 2012 [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
NOTHING will happen in 2012??? That sucks. So the universe ceases to exist? What a grim outlook.


well I meant the whole 2012 Mayan calendar ending and T. McKenna theory...


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I am Ubik. Before the universe was, I am. I made the suns. I made the worlds. I created the lives and the places they inhabit; I move them here, I put them there. They go as I say, they do as I tell them. I am the word and my name is never spoken, the name which no one knows. I am called Ubik, but that is not my name. I am. I shall always be.

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Re: 2012 [Re: JoeChip]
    #4020991 -

It's impossible for nothing to happen.


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"Their is one overriding question that concerns us all: How can we get out of the fatal groove we are in, the one that is leading towards the brink?" Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
-Substance over Style.
-Common sense is uncommon.

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Re: 2012 [Re: JoeChip]
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So how did you arrive at this conclusion?


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Re: 2012 [Re: Psychoactive1984]
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Psychoactive1984 said:
It's impossible for nothing to happen.


see my above post.
I was not writing about "nothing" as though it were nothing but I am writing about T. Mckenna's theories and the asnine theories about the Mayan calendar written by people who have no merit whatsoever about Mesoamerican/South American indigeneous cultures and their religions/calendar systems/etc...


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I am Ubik. Before the universe was, I am. I made the suns. I made the worlds. I created the lives and the places they inhabit; I move them here, I put them there. They go as I say, they do as I tell them. I am the word and my name is never spoken, the name which no one knows. I am called Ubik, but that is not my name. I am. I shall always be.

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Re: 2012 [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
So how did you arrive at this conclusion?


SWIM queried Gaia and this is what was told to his question about 2012.


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I am Ubik. Before the universe was, I am. I made the suns. I made the worlds. I created the lives and the places they inhabit; I move them here, I put them there. They go as I say, they do as I tell them. I am the word and my name is never spoken, the name which no one knows. I am called Ubik, but that is not my name. I am. I shall always be.

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Re: 2012 [Re: JoeChip]
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nonsense, because Gaia knows that she is entering a different part of the galaxy as we speak. closer and closer to the center..


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Re: 2012 [Re: JoeChip]
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Who or what is SWIM? some wierd indian man :confused:  Never heard of it but this inquiring mind wants to know what others do.

Tell me your secrets!:evil:


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Ahuwale ka nane huna.

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Re: 2012 [Re: Shroomism]
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who / what is SWIM?


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Manoa said:
I need to stop spending all my money on plants and take up a cheaper hobby, like heroin. :lol:

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Re: 2012 [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
nonsense, because Gaia knows that she is entering a different part of the galaxy as we speak. closer and closer to the center..


entropy happens.
It's always been happening since the universe was created.
Humanity is just a blip on the evolutionary radar screen.
2012 is just a big conspiracy theory like yk2.


Anyway, everything's all just information once you get down to baseline.


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I am Ubik. Before the universe was, I am. I made the suns. I made the worlds. I created the lives and the places they inhabit; I move them here, I put them there. They go as I say, they do as I tell them. I am the word and my name is never spoken, the name which no one knows. I am called Ubik, but that is not my name. I am. I shall always be.

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Re: 2012 [Re: JoeChip]
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SWIM=someone who I met.


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I am Ubik. Before the universe was, I am. I made the suns. I made the worlds. I created the lives and the places they inhabit; I move them here, I put them there. They go as I say, they do as I tell them. I am the word and my name is never spoken, the name which no one knows. I am called Ubik, but that is not my name. I am. I shall always be.

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Re: 2012 [Re: JoeChip]
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The Mayan's were relatively briliant in terms of astronomy.

They devised an accurate calendar, knew of cosmology, described various celestial phenomena. Quetzcoatl is believed to be a description of Venus by some (Velikovsky among various others)...

The point of the matter is... I tend to give it a little bit more notice then I do other predictions... the Mayan's are all dead. They aren't in anyway attempting to get everyone to sell their possesions in order to be free for when god picks them up, I just don't see a reason for this manipulation beyond what their calendar told them.

Perhaps it was used to determine when an object passes by us in space (say an asteroid or something) after the event, their calendar would be obsolete as it would offset/redirect our planet's orbit.

Not saying that is the reason, but I'd put some stock into what they predicted as their is some merit to what they suggest.

A decent general overview, read outside the fluff associated with their beliefs.
http://www.saxakali.com/historymam7.htm


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"Their is one overriding question that concerns us all: How can we get out of the fatal groove we are in, the one that is leading towards the brink?" Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
-Substance over Style.
-Common sense is uncommon.

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Re: 2012 [Re: JoeChip]
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Well, so far I learned what SWIM stands for here in thread and thats about it.

What else do ya got?


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Ahuwale ka nane huna.

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Re: 2012 [Re: JoeChip]
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ah thanks, i kept seeing that all over the place and couldnt figure it out


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Manoa said:
I need to stop spending all my money on plants and take up a cheaper hobby, like heroin. :lol:

Looking for Rauhocereus riosaniensis seeds or live specimen(s), :pm: me if you have any for trade

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Re: 2012 [Re: JoeChip]
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If 2012 is a conspiracy theory then the Mayans were WAY ahead of their time, more so than they already were..

JFK was a conspiracy. 2012 is a cosmic event.


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Re: 2012 [Re: Shroomism]
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only time will truely tell..don't live like there's no tomorrow.  just live like there's no 8 years from now  :lol:


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:super:D
Manoa said:
I need to stop spending all my money on plants and take up a cheaper hobby, like heroin. :lol:

Looking for Rauhocereus riosaniensis seeds or live specimen(s), :pm: me if you have any for trade

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Re: 2012 [Re: SuperD]
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I am just referring to the fact that electrons revolves around a nucleus, the moon revolves around Earth, planets revolve around the sun, suns revolve around the galaxy, and galaxies revolve around each other. The Mayans, with their very advanced astronomy, determined that 2012 would be the time when our galaxy was the closest in a very long time to the center of our galaxy. Everything is a cycle.


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