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I'll accept the first one was at least somewhat warranted, but the second? Ehh

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SkorpivoMusterion said:

The 1st, so called "warning".
can't you drop it and move on, swami?

Unprofessional modship.
Listed no rules being broken, for the reasoning behind her desire for Swami to refrain from his questioning.


please stop, swami.

Again, an unclear demand. Stop what, exactly?
Stop what you percieve to be, as you put it: "his teeth bared and a viper tongue"?
Or do you really mean to stop checking the accusers, and questioning the shady banishment altogether?

The following corollary made by you:
if he plays nice, he can stay
Seems to indicate that your emotions contaminated your rationality and logical-decision making abilities.

Absurd and irrational modship.

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motaman said:

so he should just continue to defy a moderators request/warning?

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Once again:

The 1st, so called "warning".
can't you drop it and move on, swami?

Unprofessional modship.
Listed no rules being broken, for the reasoning behind her desire for Swami to refrain from his questioning.


please stop, swami.

Again, an unclear demand. Stop what, exactly?
Stop what you percieve to be, as you put it: "his teeth bared and a viper tongue"?
Or do you really mean to stop checking the accusers, and questioning the shady banishment altogether?

The following corollary made by you:
if he plays nice, he can stay
Seems to indicate that your emotions contaminated your rationality and logical-decision making abilities.

Absurd and irrational modship.



Due to lack of coherency, lucidity and rationality, there was no clear distinction of any actual WARNING being made. The word warning was never even mentioned.
Convenient that someone just happened to bring in a word that has a little flexibility that can be used to save face: "request".
Okay, playing along with that game:
All of which was said by the mod[s], might fall in the category of a request.

With that in mind, let's make it clear what the difference is between a request and a warning.

Once we establish that, then answer: From what was provided by the mods, or lack thereof, was Swami supposed to know that he was in fact, being subject to warnings?

You see, I use the word "warnings" here, because I am under the distinct impression that one can be banned only on the grounds of being warned, rather than the unformal grounds of beseechment such as a request. Is this correct, or wrong?

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On Drama Queens & Hate Magnets:

When someone gets on the bad side of the community and continues to act out, bringing the wrath of our more vocal members upon themselves and generally becoming a detriment to the health and harmony of the boards, they will be processed in accordance with the On Banning clause above.

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and disrepect a moderator by ignoring them completely?

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i have done nothing except to try and help explain why shirley banned him.. if you don't get it then i don't know what to tell you .

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You should have stayed out of it, if you didn't want your name thrown in with all the other mods that are behaving childishly.  Sleep in the bed you make and all that, right?


You're all acting like it's unquestionable that the mods and admins may have erred..  that we should all just shut the fuck up and accept the decision, because well, we're not mods, we don't know shit!

Do I really have to explain how such a viewpoint has contributed to the downfall of..  christ.  other sites, other communities, other governments, other religions, other entire fucking EMPIRES, throughout human history?
It's the #1 mistake.  And I would have thought that a drug site such as this, where questioning the line fed to you by the authorities is the modius operandi, would be conscious to avoiding such a situation.

Ah fuckit, I'm wrong, right?  Just a lowly pleb, right? 

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Do what you must. I will not hold it against you, though others might.

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trendal said:

Because instead of taking up a perceived personal grievances with the mods/admins who made the decision, he came back and made a lot of public hoopla and drama.

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Specificate said public hoopla and drama. Show us some examples. I'm not going to take your word that subsequent posts that may or may not have had any content related to the decision, as I was told in Math classes, "I want to see your work", which, in this case, I would quote as "I want to see your line or reasoning, Trendal.

By the way, what decision are you referring to? The banning itself, or stuff that led up to the banning? If you are refering to the post that Swami made after his ban was lifted, this very one we are posting in now, I do not see how it can be taken as "public hoopla and drama". This forum is specifically for these types of threads, where input from every user is welcomed and necessary. I am not currently aware of any rule that forbids creating posts of this nature in this forum. If he had made the thread in S and P, it would have been moved here.

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Now, I wasn't online when he was banned...but this is what I gather the reason was. After reading this thread and the other he posted in OTD, I can see why he was banned (see above).

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I didn't see the thread in OTD, but considering what I know of the forum, I don't see how he could have been banned as a result of a post there, unless he was flaming or posting some highly controversial pictures.... Anyways, I would certainly appreciate some specific examples of rules being broken in his posting in that forum. It shouldn't be too hard to do this if they are actually there, right?

I'd like to know how this thread stepped over the line. The only thing I have seen so far is two moderators who, in my opinion, are not capable of conducting themselves appropriately for their position and the subsequent power and responsibilities from that position. One completely banned Swami because they personally did not want Swami to continue discussion on this topic. He was not off-topic for the forum the post was made in, and he clearly did not break any restrictions on posting. The moderator has, in my opinion, acted in an entirely childish manner in regards to the banning, which is in itself a very extreme action to take - usually, a thread is merely moved or deleted......

Avoiding all of this will not make it go away, neither will banning everyone with a voice on the matter. Why don't we all assume the responsibility that comes with our roles here and do something to rightfully solve this? We do not need to act like children.


Peace.