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Ancient Egyptian Magick
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Re: Ancient Egyptian Magick [Re: Shroomism]
    #2978147 - 08/08/04 01:59 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I am not sure what comments your are looking for so here we go. :grin:

There is so much wrong with that site I do not even know where to start.

Lets start with the fact that they attempt to mix in Christian ideas with a religion that predates Christianity.

The whole section on Wedding Ceremony should be tossed (Christian idea not Egyptian). There were no Weddings, Marages were contractual agreements that required that the arrangement be laid out in writing and the signatures witnessed.

There explanation of Ma'at is mediocre at best, and There tyeing of ancient Egyptian beliefs to modern metaphysics/New Age is just wrong.

The do not even touch on one of the key elements of the belief. That being the Ba, Ka, and Akh. With out an understanding of the basic soul any ritual magic will fall short of it's target, so to speak.

I will not even comment on there festival calender!(Ok well maybe a little :smile:)

Lets start with the basic soul through the ancient Egyptian beliefs.
The soul was/is not one thing as most believe today. It was made up of 3 parts. Those being the Ba, Ka, and Akh.

Ka
One of the aspects of the soul; the vital force of a person or god; the Ka of a dead person had to be fed, sheltered, and remembered, duties that fell to a Ka priest as well as members of the family. The Ka was believed to be fashioned at birth, as a "double."  The word is more difficult to interpret because the word ka, could mean image, genius, double, character, disposition, or mental attributes. Today we would probably say, "psyche."


Ba
An aspect of the soul emphasizing the mobility of the spirit. It thus took the appearance of a winged bird with the head of the deceased. It was able to fly around the Netherworld, and traverse into the land of the living. Ba,is depicted in hieroglyphics as a bird or a human-headed hawk, is usually translated simply "soul" and meant sublime and noble. It could leave the body at death and revisit the tomb to reanimate the body; it was able to go to heaven and dwell with perfected souls there as well.

Akh
An aspect of the soul; the luminous effective spirit of the deceased, capable of interacting with the living as what we might call a "ghost." The Akh which meant shining or translucent and is usually translated as "intelligence." It could also mean spirit, for the Akh of the gods lived in heaven, which is where the human Akh went after the prayers said for the dead enabled it to do so.


The concept of Ma'at is complicated at best. Ill just post an excerpt of a book I wrote about 2 years ago.

Ma'at

What or who is Maat?
Maat is the incarnation of the Neter which represents  truth, and justice. Maat is also the  ancient Egyptian word meaning truth, justice, righteousness, order and balance.
What or who is Neter?
The Neter or Neteru is the ancient Egyptian word for God or Gods. It is believed that Neter is so far beyond man that man can not even comprehend it. So to understand Neter man must break the Neter into Neteru. Smaller parts of the whole that man can easily understand. By understanding the Neteru man better understands the Neter and how the Neter interacts with our lives. There are many Neteru each with there own incarnation, personality, and governance.
So how does Maat effect me?
At death a persons hart is weighed against the feather of Maat. If that person has lived a good and honest life the feather out weighs the hart and the person is granted entrance into the afterlife. If the heart out weighs the feather the soul of the person is devoured to the destroyer of souls. So in life, a person must live in Maat. Giving them the honesty, righteousness, and balance to gain entrance into the afterlife.             
What does Maat teach us?
Maat' teaches us to know ourself, be totally truthful and honest with ourself, to know our strengths and weakness, to give value to life, the arts, sciences, culture, education, personal development, and to be a seeker of knowledge. In any education, a person must learn to listen first. Then to take the steps needed to live a good and truthful life.
The teachings of Maat.
  The teachings of Maat are laid out as statements one should make with conviction and honesty. These are statements of what you will not do. Thus living you life in Maat.

1.I will not commit sin.
2.I will not commit robbery with violence.
3.I will not steel.
4.I will not murder men and women.
5.I will not steel grain.
6.I will not purloin offerings.
7.I will not steel the property of Neter.
8.I will not uttered lies.
9.I will not carry away food.
10.I will not utter curses.
11.I will not commit adultery.
12.I will not make one weep.
13.I will not eat the heart.
14.I will not attack any man.
15.I am not be a man of deceit.
16.I will not steel cultivated land.
17.I will not be an eavesdropper.
18.I will not slandered.
19.I will not been angry without just cause.
20.I will not debauched the wife of any man.
21.I will not pollute myself.
22.I will not terrorize another.
23.I will not transgressed the law.
24.I will not been wroth.
25.I will not shut my ears to the words of truth.
26.I will not blasphemed.
27.I am not a man of violence.
28.I will not be a stirrer up of strife.
29.I will not act with undue haste.
30.I will not pry into matters.
31.I will not multiply my words in speaking.
32.I will not wrong another.
33.I will do no evil.
34.I will not stop the flow of water.
35.I will never raise my voice.
36.I will not curse Neter.
37.I will not act with arrogance.
38.I will not steel the bread of the Neteru.
39.I will not snatch away the bread of a child.
40.I will not treat with contempt the Neter of my city.

All 40 statements come from the scroll of going forth by day. They are the statements that one makes while the hart is being weighed against the feather of Ma'at. The statements are made in the past tense (I have not)

There Festival Calendar should have been a little bigger to say the least.


July 19 Month of Thuthi begins. Feast of Thoth, Opet Festival: marriage of Wasir & Aset (Isis & Osiris)

July 21 Birthday of Aten

July 25 Feast of Anket: welcoming the rising of the Nile

July 27 Queen Hatshepsut's Birthday

July 28 Festival ofthe Goddess of Weaving (Hedjihotep)

August 4 Festival of the Dead: Sunset Ceremony

August 6 Festival of Nut & Ra; Chief Festival of Thoth

August 12  Day of Sekhmet's repulsion of Set; Also Wasirian (Osirian) Mysteries: Feast of Lights of Aset (Isis)

August 13 Day of battle between Heru (Horus) and Set; Aset gains the Horns of Het-Hert (Hathor)

August 14 Day of Peace between Heru and Set

August 17 Rituals in the Temples of Ra, Heru (Horus) and Wasir (Osiris)

August 18 Month of Paopi Begins

August 19 Procession of Heru to Neith

August 20 Tehuti(Thoth) orders the healing of the eye of Heru (Horus)

August 22 Feast of Montu

August 23 Great Feast of the Netjeru (Gods & Goddesses)

August 26 Day of Jubilation in the heart of Ra

August 27 Procession of Bast; Birthday of Nut

August 29 Bithtday of Het-Hert (Hathor)

August 30 Day of Satisfying the Hearts of the Ennead

August 31 Day Heru receives the White Crown

September 2 Feast of Wasir (Osiris)

September 4 Ceremony of Transformation through Anpu (Anubis)

September 5 Ceremony of Raising the Djed Pillar

September 7 Neith Goes forth to Atum

September 13 Festival of lighting the fires of Nieth

September 16 Land in Festival for Ra, Wasir, and Heru

September 17 Motnh of Hethara begins; Feast of Het-hert (Hathor)

September 21 Autum Equinox; Honors to Het-hert

September 22 Ritual of the Netjers of the Two Lands

September 23 Honors offered to Atum

September 24 The going forth of Aset (Isis)

September 28 Wasir (Osiris) goes forth to Abydos; Purification of the hearts of the Netjers; Feast of Hapi: Creatiing of the Nile

October 1 Contemplation of the Fertility of Min

October 2 Day of the appearance of the eight Great Netjers (Primordials)

October 3 Landing of the Great Netjers in Abydos; Lamentations of Aset (Isis)and Nebet-Het (Nephthys) for Wasir (Osiris).

October 4 Festival of Het-Hert (Hathor).

October 6 Bast appears to Ra.

October 7 Feast Day of Ma'at .

October 9 Ra judges the dispute of Set and Heru (Horus).

October 10 Aset (Isis) goes forth

October 12 The Black Land is given to Heru (Horus); The Red Land is given to Set

October 14 Festival of establishing Heru as King;The appearance before Ptah

October 15 Feast of the Three Noble Ladies

October 17 Month of Koiak Begins; The Feast of Sekhmet

October 18 The Netjeru in festivity

October 20 Festivals for Sebek

October 21 Het-Hert (Hathor) goes forth to Her people

October 23 Festival for Serquet (Selket); Ceremony of Thehuti (Thoth)

October 27 Feast of Wasir (Osiris) in Abydos

October 28 Day of Transformation into the Bennu Bird (Phoenix)

October 29 Going forth of Het-Hert (Hathor) and the Ennead

October 30 Celebration of the Netjert of Weaving and Fate; Coming forth of the Bennu transformed.

October 31 Feast of Sekhmet Bast Ra

November 2 Festival of Het-Hert (Hathor). The people and the Netjeru judge the speeches of the crew of the Solar Barge in Heliopolis

November 6 Raising the Djed Pillar

November 7 Ploughing the Earth

November 12 Aset (Isis) seeks the body of Wasir (Osiris)

Nov. 13 Aset (Isis) grieves the loss of Wasir (Osiris)

November 14 Aset (Isis) rejoices as She finds Wasir (Osiris)

November 15 Ennead feast in the House of Ra, Heru (Horus) and Wasir (Osiris); Invocation and offering to the Spirits (khu)

November 16 Month of Tybi begins; Heb Sed Festival; Festival of Bast

November 20 Day of Sekhmet and the Purifying Flame

November 24 Day of Offerings to Sekhmet

November 28 Feast of Het-Hert (Hathor) and Sekhmet; Day of prolonging life and the goodness of Ma'at

December 3 Going forth of the Netjeru of Abydos

December 5 Bast goes forth from Bubastis

Dec. 6 Bast guards the Two Lands; Day of offerings to the Shemsu (followers) of Ra

December 8 Feast of Neith

December 13 The Day of Tehuti's taking the oath

December 14 The appearance of the Hu and Sia; Tehuti (Thoth) sends Bast and Sekhmet to guide Egypt

December 15 Day of crossing before Nun in the Temple of Hapi

December 16 Month of Mechir begins; Festival of the Little Heat; Day of Ptah lifting up Ra with His hands

December 17 Day the Netjers of Heaven receive Ra

December 18 Set goes forth

December 21 Winter Solstice; Feast of Aset (Isis)

December 23 Festival of the Great Heat; Feast Day of Het-Hert (Hathor)

December 25 Birth of Heru (Horus) the child of Aset (Isis) ; Going forth of Wadjet singing in Heliopolis;Day of Elevating the Great Netjert (Goddess) in all Her names & manifestations

December 26 Feast of Neith; Birth of Sebek (Sobek)

December 28 Day of Sekhmet going forth to Letopolis

December 31 Feast of Sekhmet

January 1 Day of keeping the things of Wasir (Osiris) in the hands of Anpu (Anubis)

January 4 Day of Nut and Raet proceeding southward

January 6 Feast of Ptah and Heru (Horus)

January 7 Festival of Aset (Isis)

January 8 Festival of Aset (Isis); Birth of Aion

January 10 Going forth of Min to Coptus; Aset sees Wasir's face

January 11 Feast of Sokar

January 15 Month of Pamenot begins; Feast of entering Heaven and the Two Lands

January 19 The brilliant festival of lights as Neith goes forth from Sais

January 20 Going forth of Yinepu (Anubis); Festival of jubilation for Wasir i(Osiris)n Busiris

January 22 Day of making way for Khnum

January 23 Day of Het-Hert (Hathor)

January 24 Day of coming of Tehuti (Thoth)

January 27 Tehuti and and the khu go forth

January 30 Day of opening the doors and couts at Karnak

Feb. 1 Feast of Nut

February 2 Birthday of Nut

February 5 Birthday of Apep (Apophis)

February 6 Feast of Heru

February 9 Day of unseen in in the Underworld

February 11 Feast of Wasir (Osiris) in Abydos

February13 Feast of Wasir (Osiris) in Busiris; The Doorways of the Horizon are opened

February 14 Month of Parmuti Begins

February 15 Geb proceeds to Busiris to see Anpu (Anubis)

February 20 Min goes forth in festivity

February 21 Day of coutning the parts of the Eye of Heru

February 26 Day of Nut

March 1 Going forth of Khepri

March 2 Going forth of Set, Son of Nut

March 4 Feast of Ra in His Barge at Heliopolis

March 12 End of the World by Sekhmet

March 14 Adoration of Uneffer

March 15 Offerings to Ra, Wasir, Heru, Ptah, Sokar and Atum

March 16 Month of Pachons begins; Feast of Heru and His Companions

March 20 Feast of the good soul for sexual fertility

March 21 Spring Equinox; Harvest Festival; Festival of restructuring the Heavens; Coming forth of the Great Ones from the House of Ra

March 23 Festival of Aset (Isis)

Mar. 25 Day the Shining Ones of Heaven move upstream

March 25 Day of the cutting out of the tongue of Sobek

April 1 Day of Het-Hert (Hathor)

April 2 Day of Joy of the Ennead and crew of Ra

April 3 Day of the counting of Tehuti (Thoth) who heard Ma'at

Apr. 4 Ma'at judges the souls before the Netjeru

April 14 Celebrations in the House of Ra, Wasir (Osiris), and Heru (Horus)

April 15 Month of Payni Begins; Festival of Heru; Festival of Bast

April 16 Holiday of Ra and his Shemsu (followers)

April 21 Feast of Wadjet (Udjet or Buto)

April 27 The Ennead sails throughout the land

May 2 Wasir (Osiris) goes forth from His mountain

May 5 Day of the living children of Nut

May 9 The Akhet eye pleases Ra

May 10 Going forth of Neith along the river

May 12 Day of purification of all things.

May14 Tehuti (Thoth) appears with Shu to bring back Tefnut

May 15 Month of Epipi begins; Festivals of Het-Hert and Bast; Great feast of the Southern heavens

May 16 The Netjerts (Goddesses) feast in their temples

May 19 Het-Hert (Hathor) returns to Punt: the Netjers are saddened

May 21 Sailing of the Netjers after Het-Hert (Hathor)

May 26 Holiday of the receiving of Ra

May 29 Heru hears prayer in the presence of the Netjers

May 30 Ma'at is taken to Ra in Heliopolis

June 1 Ma'at and Ra go forth in secret

June 12 Festival of Mut: feeding of the Netjers

June 13 Ceremony of Heru the Beloved

June 14 Month of Mesore begins

June 15 Ma'at unites as one with all the Netjeru of the heavens

June 16 Feast of Raet; Feast of Het-Hert as Sirius

June 17 Day of the procession of Sopdu, the Warrior

June 18 Day of appearance of Min

June 20 Anpu travels to every necropolis

June 21 Summer Solstice; Wadjet ceremony

June 23 Anpu (Anubis) Ceremony

June 26 Holiday for the Shemsu of Heru (Shemsu-Hor)

June 28 Ra goes forth to propitiate the Nun

July 2 the Wadjet eye has returned complete

July 5 Feast of Anpu (Anubis) with the Children of Nut and Geb

July 11 Feast of Min

July 12 Holiday in the Temple of Sokar; Festival of the Estate of Ptah

July 13 Birthday of Ra

July 14 Birthday of Wasir (Osiris)

July 15 Birthday of Heru-Dunawhy

July 16 Birthday of Set

July 17 irthday of Aset (Isis)

July 18 Birthday of Nebet-Het (Nephthys)

Even this calendar leaves out the 36 deacon spirits and there days. It also does not designate the lucky and unlucky days.


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Re: Ancient Egyptian Magick [Re: Cyber]
    #2978166 - 08/08/04 02:08 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Thank you for that.
I was looking for opinions such as that, as I stumbled across the site and didnt know exactly what to think.

What about Mer?
you can't have MerKaBa without Mer

anyway I don't have time for an in-depth comment right now but I had just quickly broswed this site and a few things caught my eye that didn't seem right, but I wanted to see if anyone else saw it.

I have a very thorough book on egyptian magick and suffice to say this website left me wanting more. no incantations or anything.


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Re: Ancient Egyptian Magick [Re: Shroomism]
    #2978224 - 08/08/04 02:31 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Hmmm MerKaBa I have not heard of that one.

It would look like this written out.



Mer is the word friend or friends.

A close translation would be "friends of the Ka and Ba" or "Friends of the soul"


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    #2983118 - 08/09/04 08:45 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

a closer translation would be,

Mer = "Launchpad" or "polarized LIGHT fields becoming recursive and infinitely compressable"

Ka = "Spirit" or "Essence" or "Source"

Ba = "Vehicle" or "Container" or "Body"

imo, idolhands is reptilian disintelligence.


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    #2983209 - 08/09/04 09:07 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I always thought it was

Mer - Counter-rotating fields of light

Ka - Spirit

Ba - Body

..same difference I suppose



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    #2983271 - 08/09/04 09:30 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

my question is, has anyone sucessfully utilized the belief in the merkaba and used it to experience other worlds, OBE, astral travel etc?
Ive read a bit about it before, how its like our own personal space ship...

Personally i find it unescessarily clumsy. Our spaceship is our conciousness. ThAts all you need to go anywhere or do anything...

Again, im not so very well informed about it, i just read a chapter on it in "nothing in this book is true"

which i thought was a terrible read


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    #2983601 - 08/09/04 11:22 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Shroomism said:
I always thought it was

Mer - Counter-rotating fields of light

Ka - Spirit

Ba - Body






Ok we must be talking about two different things. Linguistically Mer is the word friend or friends (in ancient Egyptian). This was from my knowledge of the language. I looked it up in Joseph Scott's hieroglyphic dictionary and found the same. I also looked it up in E. A. Budge's Egyptian Language book and it is the same there as well. (I don't trust Budge translations 100%)

Ba translated as body is a Budge thing. When A. E. Budge translated many Egyptian religious texts, he did so with an attempt to correlate them to the Christian belief system. Budge took the concept of the souls and broke them into Ba=Body, Ka=soul, Akh=concuss mind. It has been shown through later translations to be wrong. The reason Budge is so well published is that most of his work was done in the 1800's and is in public domain. Anyone with a Doctorate in Archeology and a Masters in Near East studies will tell you the same.


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