Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread

Not kloakk but this is probably the cleanest pan culture I’ve produced… at least the only one I’ve been completely sure about and thought, “that’s gonna do really well.”

Went on to produce this tray

I’ve had plenty that I was unsure about do well tho. You want fast, even, wispy growth that looks unencumbered. Watch out for myc that doesn’t grow aerial above the plate surface and lays down. Too thick myc that’s slow usually means there’s a biofilm under it ime

I also don’t think it’s a stretch to think that some ride along bacteria can be in a symbiotic relationship with mycelium. These organisms aren’t in anywhere close to sterile conditions out in the wild so maybe some bacteria are welcomed by the myc to help break food down (nichrome has said as much as a possibility).

Could be that the bacteria hitches a ride helping them spread. Could also be a way for the mycelium to keep their lineage in check… millions of spores are released and the weaker ones lose the battle of symbiotic balance being taken over by the bacteria whereas, the strong, fast and aggressive offspring stay in balance with the relationship and live long enough to spore.

Just spitballing but with that being said, if you’ve done everything you can to get a culture clean and it still seems slightly dirty but aggressive, maybe you just need to send it and see how it goes. I have a lot of borderline cultures where Ive done that and they turn out well. Maybe the first flush is a bit rough but get better in the conservative flushes.

When I do send cultures to grain that I’m not sure of, I’ll pay close attention to what the jar looks like fully colonized. I let my jar go for 2-3 days after colonization to see how they act. You really can’t tell much from a colonizing jar. They can be very deceiving. The growth in that 2-3 days after 100% tells me if I should even send the jar to bulk.

This is what I look for in those jars.. again, even growth without signs of stress

That myc growing up the jar says a lot. The myc in the grains is also even. There’s no thick matted clumps or bruising or yellowing/gray colors.

This jar has all the things I don’t want to see. Along with, metabolites

I won’t even waste the materials to send that because 9 out of 10 times, it won’t even make it past colonizing and if it does, it probably won’t flush out. Metabolites and heavy bruising are the big ones for me. I see those and it’s a definite no send.

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