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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
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Well, it's not your average Schlomo Sixpackberg behind the "conspiracy". Some of those people (the citizens of Israel and the Jewish diaspora at large) are pawns in the scheme, much as the average american is also a pawn in various schemes in which they may, in one way or another, be beneficiaries and/or victims.

The true culprit is the people in control of the capital who are exerting undue influence on the government to fulfill their schemes. Some of them are Jewish. Many of them are Caucasian Americans, and others are oligarchs of various ethnicities and nationalities.

I think the desire of Israel to expand it's borders is being used by oligarchs worldwide to create investment opportunities for themselves.

Death to all of them.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Baby_Hitler] * 2
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A big part of that relationship is the military industrial complex. We give money to foreign countries with the caveat that they spend it on American made weapons and systems. That money goes to the same for-profit American companies that lobbied for the aid in the first place.

But I don't think it's a one way relationship that exists entirely at our whim. Foreign interests absolutely guide US policy in ways that don't serve us. Our military, our tax revenue, and special treatment are all for sale for pennies on the dollar to any nation willing to pay off our politicians or collude with the billionaires that fund them.

Israel just isn't the only one playing that game, and it isn't some uniquely Zionist scheme. The whole government is compromised. Our "national interests" are whatever the companies and countries buying access say they are. The price of admission is agreeing to burn through American weapons or spend your money on American tech. Do that, and the manufacturers, the tech companies, and the money movers will make sure the right people get elected here.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
If you're asking my opinion then yes, At the highest levels we have a one party system with 2 wings that maintain kayfabe such that nobody seriously questions whether or not legit opposition to disgusting right wing philosophy actually exists.  That's a reflection of the system at large, not the will of the public or even individual politicians. 

That said, modern Israel exists at our whim, not the reverse.  We enable zionists and their expansion because it suits our national interests, not because TheJews™ have somehow captured our political system.  Does money get spent?  Sure.  Money will always be spent on political influence.  If not by zionists then by someone else



Money being allowed to be given at the levels it is, is the issue, and there are many corporations with their own interests that get kick backs through policy aimed at their benefit.

Zionists or AIPAC right now are having a huge influence on political discourse so much so that many officials are beholden to have policies that align with a Zionist agenda.

That being the case doesnt mean it should be.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: sudly]
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To be fair antizionist 🇦🇪 also brought usa policy's with money to usa leaders for speaking fees. Aipac just figured it out first.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: vicepope] * 1
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What's one example of a policy maker who was bought by UAE?

Hayley Stevens is clearly bought by AIPAC for the pro-zionist side, but to be fair shes not a policy maker yet.

Cory Bush has taken plenty from AIPAC though for example. The late Lindsey Graham etc.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: sudly]
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https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/uae-ai-chips-iran-war-26c10d77
Microchips and trade free weapon restrictions.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: vicepope]
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How is the UAE supporting the war in Iran anti-zionist?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Baby_Hitler] * 3
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Baby_Hitler said:
ballsalsa said:
First, that isn't how this works.  You have the burden of supporting your claims.  It's not our responsibility to fact check you via Google. 

Second, it's the ZOG claim that he's questioning.  Are you saying that a Google search will verify that the US government is a "Zionist occupied" monolith?  I ask because that seems pretty unlikely.




It seems pretty obvious that the leadership of both parties are zionists.

Also, democrats seem to always find enough "turncoats" in their party to vote in ways that cause their purported objective to fail leading many to believe that the democrats are not sincere in their endeavors to succeed in many of the things they say they believe and just enough safe or retiring members of their party are chosen to "defect" achieve their real, hidden goals.

For example, the six democrats who recently voted to pass the NDAA.

Is this so-called Rotating Villain Theory also a "conspiracy theory" spoken about only by "conspiracy nutters".



The specific term 'ZOG' was coined by a neo-Nazi in 1976, and initially spread through American white supremacist organizations before seeing a surge in popularity after its use by a neo-Nazi terror group in 1984. Ever since, it's mostly used as a dog whistle that allows militant neo-Nazis to recognize one another -- in many cases, ZOG is just used as a signal in itself, rather than in reference to any deeper conspiracy.

Criticize Zionism 100% but be well aware of the likely intentions behind those who use  ZOG in their criticism.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
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Exactly.  We're not going to be throwing the term ZOG around these parts willy nilly.  It's a white supremacist term and has been for a long time.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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ok next time i’ll say goy slaves :lol:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: trepanationexprt]
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They're not slaves, tho. They are very well compensated for their servitude to capital.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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This is not big news in the US, but the rest of the world seems to be up in arms.FIFA plans on selling a minority stake in the World Cup to an investment fund run by the Kushner family.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2026/jul/30/fifas-sale-of-the-century-how-kushners-and-trump-are-at-centre-of-a-tangled-web

Quote:
It isn’t just football fans and Uefa executives who want to give Gianni Infantino the red card for his plan to sell off 20% of the World Cup to a privately backed commercial enterprise. The Fifa president is also in the crosshairs of the House of Representatives Judiciary Committee in Washington and ranking Democrat member Jamie Raskin. The reason? Infantino’s plan, which is backed by Joshua Kushner’s investment fund, has, for some observers, president Trump’s sticky fingers all over it.

Raskin told Politico that Fifa was “going directly into business with the Trump family”, before making reference to the peace prize Infantino awarded the president in December and Fifa’s use of office space in Trump Tower, New York. “Apparently the fake Peace Prize and giant lease with Trump Tower weren’t enough – now Infantino performs a kickback hat-trick by pursuing a multibillion-dollar deal with Jared Kushner’s brother to sell ownership stakes in the World Cup to private investors.”




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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods] * 2
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Add it to the sleaze show.
Seeing football sold this way makes me sick


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"life isn't worth living without the threat of death"

"I got my plans in a ziploc bag, let's see how unproductive we can be"

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ashfiken] * 1
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Ever since the fbi raided fifa they seem to got them by the balls.
But now trump is shameless enough to pull off every evil scheme imaginable, just as long as it makes him some money. He is a liability to world peace and the future of America.

Effery jepstein warned about him:

'Recall I've told you 'I have met some very bad people' none as bad as trump. not one decent cell in his body. so yes dangerous."



And two more quotes that let you to believe he knew him well:*

"your world does not understand how dumb he really is"

"He will blame everyone around him"


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Pete Peterson]
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Pete Peterson said:
Ever since the fbi raided fifa they seem to got them by the balls.
But now trump is shameless enough to pull off every evil scheme imaginable, just as long as it makes him some money. He is a liability to world peace and the future of America.

Effery jepstein warned about him:

'Recall I've told you 'I have met some very bad people' none as bad as trump. not one decent cell in his body. so yes dangerous."



And two more quotes that let you to believe he knew him well:*

"your world does not understand how dumb he really is"

"He will blame everyone around him"



Where are you getting this quote from?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: vicepope]
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is=0BoFfC7ViLbiVgaa

Trump decided not to hire a comedian for the white house correspondance dinner this year... instead, Trump did an hour of "stand up" himself... and it was a faaaacking awful as it sounds.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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vicepope said:
Pete Peterson said:
Ever since the fbi raided fifa they seem to got them by the balls.
But now trump is shameless enough to pull off every evil scheme imaginable, just as long as it makes him some money. He is a liability to world peace and the future of America.

Effery jepstein warned about him:

'Recall I've told you 'I have met some very bad people' none as bad as trump. not one decent cell in his body. so yes dangerous."



And two more quotes that let you to believe he knew him well:*

"your world does not understand how dumb he really is"

"He will blame everyone around him"



Where are you getting this quote from?




From the files





It could be hard to look it up on Google, the first thing it showes me is not the quote or its origin  but something like oh trump is a political figure and some people see him negatively while others see his actions as positive.
Almost like someone compromised it.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Pete Peterson] * 2
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trump is 0-19 in the courts in attempts to grab state voter rolls so he can fuck with midterms

endless power grabs

lies, lies, lies

weekly market manipulation re: iran war he started

epstein distractions

demolishing the white house

the entire reflecting pool fiasco.  no bid contract to trumps homeboy, shit job, propaganda x10 about vandalism, charged an AMERICAN OLYMPIAN under a felony indictment only to (again) have to drop the charges because the evidence was imaginary.  trump has doubled down in the press

grocery prices at 50 year high

10%+ energy prices so far despite trumps promise to cut them in half

ICE is up to something like 45 murders and the FBI has been instructed to no longer participate in investigations relating to ICE...........

trump is now responsible for over 25% of the entire American deficit.  one guy in 5.5 years

FIFA head recently tried and failed to bullshit his way through a sale of FIFA equity to a group including the trumps (this after trump interfered in the recent world cup)

I could literally keep going for 10s if not hundreds of lines here and not even leave 2026

happy to provide citations if anyone questions the above assertions

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: dinosaurs]
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Citations pleaz


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Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: lowbrow]
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lowbrow said:
Citations pleaz



Why don't you go look in the Epstien files. That's where he got the quote. Obviously.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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