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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: bloodssonnew]
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Have you seen hamilton morris episode here

is=UT7mWYszuAiTYO9h

He has section in here about caerulescens with Mexicans growing it with sugar cane. Cool video. Thought you'd be interested.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: bloodssonnew] * 2
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bloodssonnew said:
Lmfao xd idk about potency loss over short period though this enigma n caerulesens still slap me as strong as day one n haven't put in a jar just open air paper plates n litterally cracker dry lol
Took 2 n a half days open air on paper plates no fan evin lol in Alaska :popcorn:



Oxidation cause a loss in potency.

Regardless of how hard they still slap, you’re losing potency just letting them sit out in the open 

The best choice is always going to be dehydrator. If you want to leave yours out like that, go for it. To each their own. But I don’t like what I consider a waste of time and loss of potency when I just spent months going to agar, grains and bulk so I want as much as I can get out of the process

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PhenoDreamers]
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PhenoDreamers said:
Have you seen hamilton morris episode here

is=UT7mWYszuAiTYO9h

He has section in here about caerulescens with Mexicans growing it with sugar cane. Cool video. Thought you'd be interested.



I don't think the people growing the mushrooms have read the hitch hiker's guide yet.


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I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways to grow trich.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: elchocarrero]
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I just now signed up for Amazon Prime and im getting slapped with 40USD import fee on each and every item plus shipping fee on everything (the ad said sign up for Prime for free shipping) free my butt :crazy:


My Amazon account knows I live in Norway, next to each item says "free delivery to Norway on eligable items over 49USD in total" butevery "eligable" item that costs 19USD totals to 70-80USD in my checkout due to import fees and taxes.... :sad:



IS anyone from Europe here Amazon savvy and can explain thing to me? Am I doing something wrong? I need more qt jars and cant seem to find anything that costs less than 10USD per jar to get it shippet over here... What do I do? :begger:


I need jars, lids, petris and a few more things and have around 4000 norwegian roughy 400USD but I dont feel like giving Jeff Bezoz 200 bucks just to let me shop online :facepalm:


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Edited by Mateja (07/27/26 04:49 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: elchocarrero]
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Nor have they had a mushroom milkshake

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MoldGrower]
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I break and shaked this bag 4 days ago
seems to actually be responding good

do you guys see any bacteria? Has this bag got a chance?

cheers.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mateja]
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Mateja said:
I just now signed up for Amazon Prime and im getting slapped with 40USD import fee on each and every item plus shipping fee on everything (the ad said sign up for Prime for free shipping) free my butt :crazy:


My Amazon account knows I live in Norway, next to each item says "free delivery to Norway on eligable items over 49USD in total" butevery "eligable" item that costs 19USD totals to 70-80USD in my checkout due to import fees and taxes.... :sad:



IS anyone from Europe here Amazon savvy and can explain thing to me? Am I doing something wrong? I need more qt jars and cant seem to find anything that costs less than 10USD per jar to get it shippet over here... What do I do? :begger:


I need jars, lids, petris and a few more things and have around 4000 norwegian roughy 400USD but I dont feel like giving Jeff Bezoz 200 bucks just to let me shop online :facepalm:



I don't think it's Amazon itself. It's probably because it's a product from the US. From what I've seen, Norway applies 25% VAT at checkout, plus import fees.

Which model of jars are you looking for exactly? I can help you look around—there might be something available in Europe that fits the bill. I'm in Spain.

You could also try Amazon.de—it might make a difference.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mateja]
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Mateja said:
I just now signed up for Amazon Prime and im getting slapped with 40USD import fee on each and every item plus shipping fee on everything (the ad said sign up for Prime for free shipping) free my butt :crazy:


My Amazon account knows I live in Norway, next to each item says "free delivery to Norway on eligable items over 49USD in total" butevery "eligable" item that costs 19USD totals to 70-80USD in my checkout due to import fees and taxes.... :sad:



IS anyone from Europe here Amazon savvy and can explain thing to me? Am I doing something wrong? I need more qt jars and cant seem to find anything that costs less than 10USD per jar to get it shippet over here... What do I do? :begger:


I need jars, lids, petris and a few more things and have around 4000 norwegian roughy 400USD but I dont feel like giving Jeff Bezoz 200 bucks just to let me shop online :facepalm:



Have you looked into local companies that produce glass jars? A quick Google showed me at least 2 options


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Uncommunicated expectations are just premeditated resentments.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mateja] * 1
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Look, Le Parfait in France makes jars just like the American ones, and they're very reasonably priced:

LeParfait

And then there's an official Ball distributor in Germany:

American Heritage

Although the ones from France are actually really cheap.

Hope that helps!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mistakes]
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Belintaf said:
You could also try Amazon.de—it might make a difference.




Didnt think of that, cheers for the tip.


Mistakes said:
Have you looked into local companies that produce glass jars? A quick Google showed me at least 2 options




I live in Oslo the capital of Norway and I've never been able to find ANYTHING in ANY store that is cult related. I found 1/2 pint jars and some weird 800ml shitty glass jars that have lids that rust away in months.


Online stores have petri dishes that sell for 1USD per disposable plastic 90mm petri dish, its insane, I basically need to order everything from abroad to source shit and to afford it....


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Belintaf]
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Belintaf said:
Look, Le Parfait in France makes jars just like the American ones, and they're very reasonably priced:

LeParfait

And then there's an official Ball distributor in Germany:

American Heritage

Although the ones from France are actually really cheap.

Hope that helps!



I'll check out the germany link but Perfait's are in Norway as well, they cost about 8-9USD per jar and these are Le Perfair lids after a few runs



I aint spending a fortune on this brand ever again, but thanks for the germany tip


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mateja]
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Amazon.de was 2-4X more expensive than .com around 8-10USD per jar, its actually cheaper to just pay those damn import fees, if I was buying just a few jars id order from the deutch-american-heritage website


but the thing is Im looking to get around 30+ qt jar's
30+ filtered lids
1 cheap magnetic stirrer
300-500 petris
Enough Agar for a while
Parafilm
A dozen scalpels


If I can get these items for around 300USD id be thrilled, If I could source most or parts of these at the same place id be thrilled as well.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mateja]
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Mateja said:
Belintaf said:
Look, Le Parfait in France makes jars just like the American ones, and they're very reasonably priced:

LeParfait

And then there's an official Ball distributor in Germany:

American Heritage

Although the ones from France are actually really cheap.

Hope that helps!



I'll check out the germany link but Perfait's are in Norway as well, they cost about 8-9USD per jar and these are Le Perfair lids after a few runs



I aint spending a fortune on this brand ever again, but thanks for the germany tip



These fit the le parfait 100ø jars

You can thank me later :wink:


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I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways to grow trich.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: elchocarrero]
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The link takes me to an blank white page with a huge text saying "403 forbidden" :shrug:

And the le perfait have the rarest lid dimension, almost impossible to find anywhere, but I found some white plastic lids long time ago but I dont like the plastic PP5 lids, they warp over time and dont seal fully, the double metal lids with rubber band are much safer for this hobby IMO


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Rasmodius]
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Hoping this is mycelium, strange clear outer edge is this normal ?



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: HairyBogan]
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Looks very similar to this thing engulfing one of my Dick-Jealousy cultures, someone around here prob seen it before and can identify it, I havent :shrug:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mateja]
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Mateja said:
Amazon.de was 2-4X more expensive than .com around 8-10USD per jar, its actually cheaper to just pay those damn import fees, if I was buying just a few jars id order from the deutch-american-heritage website


but the thing is Im looking to get around 30+ qt jar's
30+ filtered lids
1 cheap magnetic stirrer
300-500 petris
Enough Agar for a while
Parafilm
A dozen scalpels


If I can get these items for around 300USD id be thrilled, If I could source most or parts of these at the same place id be thrilled as well.



You could check out mycopunks in the uk, maybe the shipping costs won’t be so bad.

As for jars I’ve been using the standard canning ones here in eastern Europe, 720 ml with a metal lid and the lids last a long time.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PhenoDreamers] * 2
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Since I started playing with this hobby 5 years ago, I've been trying different methods of storage. Almost everything I tried failed. Most likely, cleanliness in the beginning. Agar slants always contammed, Penicillin vials the same. I think it was air contamming me out in the vials and maybe the household fridge being used for the agar slants, as I had drilled holes in thew lids and put SFD's on them. I met another old codger on a fishing trip, that told me to do this, and said he'd stored samples for 20 years doing this. I take no credit for it, it's not my "tek", but I've had 99% luck doing this, since I learned how to wake up dormant mycelium. I threw a bunch of tries away before accidentally forgetting some plates on a shelf for a few weeks only to find them all doing well. Over the last 6 months, I played around and found it was much better to put the sample on very weak nutrients before going to MEAP. This too, was an accident, as I had some weak MEA plates left over from an attempt at getting a strain out of tomentose and into rhizo. The recipes, WA tek and sandwich method, I learned from here. Actually almost everything I know I learned from here. I made this up off my notes, so bear with me and my way of wording things. I don't get in here much, so I'm not a very good contributor and figured maybe this could help others, so here goes. I'm placing it here because this is where I come the most and figured Nichrome wouldn't chase me down and beat me up for not posting in the proper place. LOL. If a TC feels it's useful, place it where it belongs.

Slant Vial Fungal Preservation
Long Term Storage 5 years or more.

Phase 1: Prepare the Water Agar (WA)
Water agar provides a solid physical structure for the mycelium to anchor to, but contains zero sugars to feed it.
The Recipe: Combine 500 ml distilled water and 10 grams pure agar-agar powder. Do not
add malt, yeast, potato starch, or honey.
Sterilization: Autoclave or pressure cook at 15 PSI for 20 minutes. Allow the vials to cool completely to room temperature inside a sterile field (laminar flow hood or near a Bunsen burner).
Pouring: Pour into petri dishes (the largest you can buy), in front of your flow hood. Because there are no nutrients, these plates are highly resistant to contamination while sitting on your shelf. I pour as thin as I possibly can (1/8th”) because it makes the “sandwich” in a later step much easier to do.

Phase 2: Create the "Starved" Culture. You must transition your genetics from a nutrient-rich environment to a nutrient-free environment.
Identify the active, outer edge of your 2-inch fungal colony on the water agar plate.
Flame-sterilize your scalpel or inoculation loop and let it cool.
The Transfer: Take a tiny speck of clean mycelium from your standard Malt Extract Agar (MEA) plate and place it onto the center of a fresh Water Agar plate.
I like a ¼” piece and I cut the mycelium off the top so it isn’t so thick to cover with the “sandwich” piece of water agar. Otherwise it’s hard to get a seal on the sandwich. Take another Water Agar plate and cut a square section large enough to cover your transfer by at least ½” on each side and place it on top. Press it down so that it sticks to the transfer all around.
The Growth: Incubate at room temperature. The mycelium will grow outward very slowly, looking like a faint, transparent, ghostly web. It is searching for food that isn't there.

The Harvest: Let it grow out about 1 ½ - 2”. This is why I use the largest plates I can buy. The mycelium on this plate has completely emptied its internal nutrient reserves. It is now ready for long-term dormancy.

Phase 3: Prep the Storage Vials
The Setup: Fill your glass screw-cap vials 7/8 full with pure distilled water.
The Cook: Keep the screw caps one full turn loose and cover the tops with aluminum foil. Pressure cook at 15 PSI for 45 minutes to ensure the water is completely sterile.
The Cooling Rule: Let the pressure cooker drop to 0 PSI naturally. Do not open it until the cooker is sitting directly in front of your running flow hood. Tighten the caps completely only while they are bathed in the sterile airflow.


Phase 4: Inoculation for Multi-Year Storage

The Action: In front of your flow hood, sterilize your scalpel. Cut small 3mm x 3mm squares from the outer edge of your faint water agar plate.
The Plunge: Open a water vial, drop 2 to 3 squares into the water, fill to brim with more PC’d water and screw the cap down tightly. Wrap top in Parafilm, dip top 1/3rd in beeswax. I label with sharpie and Label Maker.
The Result: Because the water agar and distilled water contain zero nutrients, the myceliums metabolism flat lines into true cryptobiosis. It stops consuming oxygen and stops producing CO2, resolving the suffocation issue.

Phase 5: Storage and Future Revival

Storage: Store the vials in a dark box, place in dresser drawer at stable room temperature (60°F–75°F). Do not refrigerate refrigerate water vials, as temperature swings in a fridge can crack the glass or cause condensation issues over a 5-year span.

The Old Vial Wake-Up Plan

1. Prep a "Soft Wake-Up" Plate: Do not use full-strength MEAP. The sudden blast of sugar can kill or permanently stall starving cells. Instead, pour a very weak plate: 1% Malt Extract Agar (MEA) with no peptone (about 10 grams of malt extract and 15 grams of agar per liter of water). I failed a few times before learning this.

2. The Extraction: In front of your flow hood, open an old vial. Use your long scalpel or a sterile loop to fish out the water agar wedge. I now put 3 pieces in each vial and put one on three different plates, as it betters my odds.

3. Face-Down Placement: Place the old wedge face-down onto your weak MEA plate. This forces the dormant mycelium to make direct contact with the new moisture and mild nutrients.

Be Patient (The 2-Week Window): Because the cells are waking up from a multi-year slumber, you might see absolutely zero growth for the first 5 to 10 days. Do not throw the plate away thinking it failed. It can take up to two full weeks just for the first tiny, fuzzy white hairs to creep out of the old wedge. Because those cells have been starving in a dresser drawer for 3 years, their internal clock is completely reset, or that’s my guess.
• Day 1 to 5: Expect absolutely nothing to happen. The wedge will look dead.
• Day 7 to 10: The cells will finally finish rehydrating and absorbing the micro-nutrients from your low-nutrient plate.
• Day 14+: You should see those first pristine, white explorer threads creep out onto the agar.

4. The Jump to Vigor: Once that weak plate shows a clean circle of new growth, take a piece from that fresh leading edge and transfer it to your standard MEAP plate. That is when the mycelium will realize it is fully safe, digest the peptone, and explode back into its normal, aggressive self.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LyleChipperson]
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checked out the website but kind of insane prices, almost a dollar for one (1) 90mm petri dish, thats criminal cant pay 100USD for 100 dishes im not that rich, gonna be needing more next month :sad:


Why the heck is everything 3-5 times cheaper in the US, what is going on globally? I thought Europe and North America had at least somewhat similar trade/import economics, why can't european....


never mind, just realized im posting here like the name of this thread is "Ask Quick QUestions-Complain Like a lil B***H"


Im good, ill figure it out, thanks everyone for chiming in


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: HairyBogan]
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Just trying to learn this hobby is enough, let alone trying to identify all the different contams. My hats off to those with that knowledge. If I have any doubts what-so-ever, I put it on an water agar sandwich and then take it back to MEA before I even try and put it on grain, wood chips, etc. Anything that doesn't clean up is symbiotic IME.

Edited by Range Spacer (07/28/26 12:26 AM)

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