shed light said:

I think the term "heroic dose" is just fundamentally flawed.

Taking a high dose isn't heroic.

Gaining insights and subsequently making your life/the world a better place is.  It's about the right dose.

5g of average cubes isn't enough to even get me very high, much less break through to the other side.  But then I have a friend who can get lost on his way to the bathroom for an hour on like 1g.

At 3g, his world is melting and I could sit placidly and talk to my mom.  If people must classify a dose as heroic, then it certainly must be relative to their personal tolerance. 

A heroic dose, then, would be whatever it takes to get you far beyond reality, where you dissolve and merge with the cosmos or whatever, and would be a highly individual number, not some arbitrary "5g of mushrooms is a heroic dose."

I certainly don't mean any of this as an attack on anyone here or the OP or anything like that.  Just the way I see it.  In my opinion, if people feel the need to classify their doses and experiences, they kind of don't get it/are missing the point.  Sometimes the right dose is some minor color enhancement and a good mood.  Other times it's fundamentally reframing how you see the universe, regardless of how many grams it takes to achieve either outcome.

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For9758 said:

I'm not saying it isn't for some, but are there others that feel the 5 grams just arent enough for a "heroic" dose?  Or am I alone? I'm curious what others thoughts are. Maybe there's something I'm doing wrong/ not right with me that cause a pre tollerance to it.

The first few times I experimented I had only 1 or 2 grams. I was barely buzzed.

I bumped up to 5 grams of wild oviods. It wasn't the best setting. I was tired before taking them and fasting didn't help. Had an insightful trip but no strong visuals. Can't remember most of it and thought i blacked out, but my trip sitter said I never stopped talking once at hyperspace, so I just say I didn't remember it. 

About 6 months later I took an eight,  no visuals, but I "thought" it was strong. It wasn't untill I Took 7 grams two days later of 50/50 cubes and wild oviods and had an intense trip, but nothing unbearable. Lots of open and closed eyed visuals and was the first I seen fractals. It felt alot more simular to the first 5 gram trip as far as thought process and thinking went.

Recently I took 4 to 5 grams of cubes. Had a nice mid level trip with fractals, objects becoming geometric, ect. On the 7 grams objects didn't just become geometic. But went further.  For example, the grass on 7 grams became this pattern of snakes(very cool). But on 4.5 it was just uniform geometric arrangement.

Anyone else feel this or am I in the minority?
I feel alot of people take 5 grams and think that's as crazy as it gets. But for me, 5 grams is like a nice visuals but still very connected with reality and the world around me. Not simular to the stories of 5 grams equalling total body separation and loss of reality.  I feel like if I would of only took 5 grams, then yes, I would think that 5 grams was heroic. But because I took more, I know it was nothing compare to what can happen.

I feel like I may have a tolerance to psilocybin. Maybe an absorption issue in the intestine.  Idk.  But also, how much is based on our own understanding of what we think is or should be heroic? Anyone else think the 5 gram number is just too small?

(This isn't a conversation on potency. I know it varies alot and I've had my fair share from different wild batches plus my own. In general the ovoids I find are alittle stronger. Id say 4 grams ovoids equals 5 grams grown cubes. But the point is in general for dosing)

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cardboardandsoap said:

Heroic to me is means multiple of 5, 5g > 10g > 15g > 20g > ...

The audience is super important, a heroic dose could easily be .5g > 1g > 1.5g > ...

The heroic part isn't the trip, its getting those mushrooms down, or that tea down quickly. The heroic part is submitting to the stomach nausea, fever and intensity. The heroic part is taking on temporarily suffering for short and long-term personal objectives.

Lots of semantics here, a Hero dose can be many things. Simply anyone that uses the mushroom to distance themselves (even partially) from pharmaceuticals is a hero in my book.

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A heroic dose, under no circumstance, can be .5g if we are talking cubes. I also dont understand the whole multiple of 5 thing you got going on there..

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B Traven said:

...I've definitely sent people to Mars on 2 g of my shit before, when prepared correctly...

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What does prepared correctly mean to you B Traven? I want to go to mars

alienprincess47 said:

Wook science is thinking a cube can give you a breakthrough type dose with .5g ...it may feel like it but the person is just new to those effects. I guess youre right though its just uncommon to find people who can go so far on that dose.

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cardboardandsoap said:

B Traven said:

...I've definitely sent people to Mars on 2 g of my shit before, when prepared correctly...

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What does prepared correctly mean to you B Traven? I want to go to mars

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B Traven said:

alienprincess47 said:

Wook science is thinking a cube can give you a breakthrough type dose with .5g ...it may feel like it but the person is just new to those effects. I guess youre right though its just uncommon to find people who can go so far on that dose.

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Ah, cool, so you've conducted an extensive analysis of the active content of the entire cultivated cube genome. And you're omniscient, and have a complete understanding of the psychedelic experience for everyone. Didn't know I was in the presence of such greatness.

You should get off here and go start a religion or some shit.

But thanks for telling me that what I've seen and known is just what I "think." I appreciate it. Guess I'd better put down my patchouli and hit the books so I can maybe achieve your level of knowledge.

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alienprincess47 said:

Ya know...thats a good idea. You can be my first member but you need tk perform sexual acts on me if you want membership. Im sure you'll make the right decision

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Goddamn it, I was all set to write you off completely and then you gotta go and post something like this.

Alright, look, seriously, I can attest to there being some seriously strong cube genetics in the mix out there. I'm not saying they're normal or common, but genetics work can get you to a pretty intense level. Beyond that, there are considerations in how the harvest is conducted. I'll go ahead and out myself here as someone who does believe that pins are stronger per unit weight than mature fruits. I actually end up growing some fruits out and picking some pins, then blending them all together, because people can't handle or don't want pure pin powder. I get that your statement is accurate more often than not, especially for . I'm just not gonna sign off on an absolute statement when I've had experiences to the contrary.