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The Heroic Dose
    #1931117 - 09/19/03 01:52 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I'm a little bit of a wimp. I've shroomed for the past year and half, the highest I've gone was 3 grams. What happens at five if you had to describe it in one sentence for me? Just one.


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Re: The Heroic Dose [Re: YellowSubmarine]
    #1931128 - 09/19/03 01:55 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

You analyze your life and your actions.intentions.priorities from every perceivable perspective* and you go from the highest highs and the lowest lows.

(heroic dose, is alone, by the way)


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Re: The Heroic Dose [Re: PDU]
    #1931193 - 09/19/03 02:14 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

you die, cease to exist


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Re: The Heroic Dose [Re: Infrared]
    #1931206 - 09/19/03 02:18 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

i never did 5 but i did 7 grams
You die and return to where you came from
the endless loop of eternity and existence
i dunno i didnt really understand it


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Re: The Heroic Dose [Re: Help on the Way]
    #1931328 - 09/19/03 03:03 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I remember 5.5g's of some good B+'s, what an experience...I don't know if I will eat more than 4g's for a while. I had a great time on 5.5, however it is just SO fucking intense.


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Re: The Heroic Dose [Re: YellowSubmarine]
    #1931407 - 09/19/03 03:43 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

"What happens at five if you had to describe it in one sentence for me?"

You trip out harder than three grams


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Re: The Heroic Dose [Re: Help on the Way]
    #1931424 - 09/19/03 03:51 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Slipknot420 said:
i never did 5 but i did 7 grams
You die and return to where you came from
the endless loop of eternity and existence
i dunno i didnt really understand it



I hope after that you quit listening to Slipknot.


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Re: The Heroic Dose [Re: YellowSubmarine]
    #1932103 - 09/19/03 12:54 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I never noticed that much difference between 3 and 5. It isn't like you take 5 and suddenly shit your pot full. The brain only has so many receptors, above a certain level there's not that much that differs except the trip lasts a little longer perhaps. I've taken 25 dried grams of potent cubies, 10 dried grams of cyans and had just as powerful trips from 3 dried grams of cubies. Mushrooms arn't like beer where if you take 10 pints you're always more drunk than if you take 3 pints. Mood, setting and the character of the person play an enormous part in it.


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Re: The Heroic Dose [Re: YellowSubmarine]
    #1932114 - 09/19/03 01:01 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Ecstasy!


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Re: The Heroic Dose [Re: Xlea321]
    #1932118 - 09/19/03 01:05 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Alex123 said:
I never noticed that much difference between 3 and 5.





I have.

I notice a BIG difference between 5 grams and 10 grams.Whenever I increase the amount I notice a difference.

Maybe I have more receptors than you?


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Re: The Heroic Dose [Re: sirreal]
    #1932163 - 09/19/03 01:28 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

> What happens at five if you had to describe it in one sentence for me? Just one.

At 3-5g: lots of fun
At 4-5g: whoa, things are merging
At 5-7g: split "me" soup
At 7-10g: who am I
At 10g+: what...



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Re: The Heroic Dose [Re: sirreal]
    #1932249 - 09/19/03 02:11 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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sirreal said:
Quote:

Alex123 said:
I never noticed that much difference between 3 and 5.










While i find it hard to beleive youve tripped as hard off 25g as you have off 3g, weird shit happens. Ive tripped as hard as off 7g's...on less than 2g's. I for the most part, dont regard 5g's as a heroic dose..As Alex said, there's not THAT much difference between 3 and 5g's sometimes. It depends on so many things...


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Re: The Heroic Dose [Re: sirreal]
    #1932643 - 09/19/03 03:43 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe I have more receptors than you?

Or maybe you thought "I've just taken more than I've ever taken before I'm gonna trip balls!!" and sure enough you did..

The only evidence we have without the placebo effect playing a part is mentioned in Timothy Leary's book "Flashbacks" where he mentions giving people tremendous doses of LSD while telling them it was just 250mics. No-one ever noticed any difference.



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Re: The Heroic Dose [Re: YellowSubmarine]
    #1932708 - 09/19/03 03:55 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

In one sentence: everything that happens on 3g is incredibly intensified at 5g, and there may be some added effects that were not present at all at 3g.


In depth:

I've tried about every dose between 3g and 8g, in 1/2g incriments. What I've found is that after about 3.5-4g the strengthof the trip increases much more slowly than the length of the trip. For instance, 8g "feels" fairly similar to 5g (at least to me) as far as it's effects go, but 8g lasts about 7-9 hours for me where 5g only lasts 5-6 hours. Below 3.5-4g I've found that the strength of the trip increases much more quickly than the length, which stays at a fairly steady 4.5-6 hours.

As far as what it "feels" like to take 5g (which I would not consider a "heroic dose")...it's hard to explain. I can explain my 8g experiences much more easily, as I have more of them than 5g trips. When I take 8g I lose any control I might have had at a lower dose. Confusion rules supreme, yet it's not always a disconcerting confusiion. Sometimes I laugh at myself because I can't figure out what something is or what is going on in the first place. 8g is very much so a head trip - most of what happens is completely internal to my mind. Movement becomes hard enough at times that I just sit wherever I am and think.

A head full of thought, but streaked with confusion. It's a strange thing to feel, such a fast pase of logical thought with absolutely no sensical meaning in physical reality.


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Re: The Heroic Dose [Re: trendal]
    #1932736 - 09/19/03 04:02 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

man for me 8 grams feels way stronger than 5...


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Re: The Heroic Dose [Re: Strumpling]
    #1932760 - 09/19/03 04:10 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe I have a strange tolerance, then  :smirk:

I'm really quite a lightweight. I'm completely on the floor from anything over say 1.5 grams. Five grams is INCREDIBLY intense for me, and while there IS a difference between 5 and 8 I think it would be completely pointless to try and describe the difference. It's not a HUGE difference, not nearly as big as the difference between even 3.5 and 5 grams. But yeah there is one there.


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Re: The Heroic Dose [Re: trendal]
    #1932804 - 09/19/03 04:25 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

The shrooms seem to affect me in a different way trendal. I never get the slightest "mindfuck" or negativity on doses around the 25 dried gram mark. I feel completly in control and at my physical and mental peak. No confusion at all.


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Re: The Heroic Dose [Re: Xlea321]
    #1932853 - 09/19/03 04:45 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I have a friend who took shrooms three times without feeling anything at all (doses of 1.5g 2g and 3.5g respecitvely). Everyone else who took the shrooms at the same time tripped fine and hard.

Finally on his fourth try he took 2.5g and tripped hard.


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Re: The Heroic Dose [Re: Xlea321]
    #1933055 - 09/19/03 06:03 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Alex123 said:
Maybe I have more receptors than you?

Or maybe you thought "I've just taken more than I've ever taken before I'm gonna trip balls!!" and sure enough you did..





Or maybe you are just speculating on what I experience?

I took over ten grams before I took 5 grams.

Quote:

The only evidence we have without the placebo effect playing a part is mentioned in Timothy Leary's book "Flashbacks" where he mentions giving people tremendous doses of LSD while telling them it was just 250mics. No-one ever noticed any difference.




We are talking about mushrooms, not acid.

Besides, it would be a little harder to pull that on yourself, Don't ya think?


BTW, I know how each of these drugs affect the brain. No need to explain.


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Edited by sirreal (09/19/03 06:10 PM)


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