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Great Scott
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Proper CYAN dose??
#2012496 - 10/15/03 07:12 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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i'm giving an "eigth" to a friend i have no scale my cyanescens are all dried and between 1 and 2 inches long all open cap, pretty mature.
How many of these cyans do you think would make up a proper dose (by a dose, i mean, a commerically acceptable, 20 dollar, 1/8 ounce, of shrooms)
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TheCow
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I wish I knew a dealer who would give me 3.5 grams of cyans for 20 dollars.
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Great Scott
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Re: Proper CYAN dose?? [Re: TheCow]
#2012782 - 10/15/03 08:36 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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what do you get for 20 dollars? cyans of course
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Grapefruity
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heh 20 bux for an eight is pretty cheap...here the eight of cyans is like 30 bux...
but you mean copelandia cyanescens or psilo
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Great Scott
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psilo. cyan
so aprx. how many of my little, dried, 2 inch long, cyans should i dish out for 20 bucks?
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John
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Selling drugs is illegal...
By a hand-scale to sell things like 1/8's of sugar though, I know that's probably not what you wanna hear but they're like $3 man.
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Great Scott
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Re: Proper CYAN dose?? [Re: John]
#2012973 - 10/15/03 09:46 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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omg you guys are relentless...haha i suppose i can give folks the benefit of the doubt and buy a scale with those earnings, thus far
thanks though peace
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shroombucket
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in amsterdam they sell 10 grams wet doses for like 22 euro
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NWuser
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All I know is that 3 fully mature stems/caps gave me a strong level 2 trip. I'd give him 4-5 full Cyans and call it good.
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Re: Proper CYAN dose?? [Re: NWuser]
#2015513 - 10/16/03 04:53 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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i dont even think people around here know that there are different strains and species of mushrooms.
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Re: Proper CYAN dose?? [Re: NWuser]
#2016326 - 10/16/03 08:55 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
NWuser said: All I know is that 3 fully mature stems/caps gave me a strong level 2 trip. I'd give him 4-5 full Cyans and call it good.
i think that would be a little more than a level 2.
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orizon
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Re: Proper CYAN dose?? [Re: Rebirtha]
#2017118 - 10/17/03 03:38 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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you talkin bout pan cyan or psilocybe cyan? I know around here hydroponic Pan cyans are sold by the gram at 15-20 bucks a gram...figuring a dose of crispy dried blue meanies is between 1-2 grams and the buyer can decide how much he wants to dose. When dealing with different species you should deal by the dose....not by the weight.
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Re: Proper CYAN dose?? [Re: orizon]
#2019885 - 10/18/03 04:02 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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go to the post office
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mjshroomer
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Re: Proper CYAN dose?? [Re: garbage]
#2020159 - 10/18/03 08:34 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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PSilocybe cyanescens can have form 6-8 hits in a drired gram to one dried gram per dose. Copelandia cyanescens ( can have form one to two grams for a good strong dose/
Fresh P. cyanescens can have four big shrooms weighing one fresh ounce get four to six people high. However a bag of small baby Psilocybe cyanescens mushrooms can get ten to twenty people high. Afresh Copelandia (Panaeolus) cyanescens take from 7 to 10 or 13 frsh shrooms for a high but steady users can require up to 50 to 200 feresh shrooms to get off. enough for 15-20 people. Dried they lose much of their potency if they are not handled properly during picking and proper drying techniques. But one gram clicially is as strong as a dried gram of liberty caps.
I posted here before the paper on Copelandia (Panaeolus) cyanescens doses by Tjakko Stijve of shroroms I collected in Thailand and hawaii vs some from Australia collected by Anthony Young.
you did not say where you were but then If you are in the south, how did you obtain Psilocybe cyanescens according to one of your responses where you said they were Psilo cyans?
mj?
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mjshroomer
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Shroombucket says Quote:
" in amsterdam they sell 10 grams wet doses for like 22 euro"
Here is a package of Panaeolus (Copelandia) cyanescens sold in the Kokopelli Smart Shop, one of five belonging to the Conscious Dreams Consortium Collective created by Hans Van Den Hurk, The first person to sell mushrooms in Amsterdam in their shop. The Kokopelli is owned by Veronique, tell her I sent you.
Here is the picture of their Cope packaging. Slick to enlarge.

This one cost 25 guilders ($12.50, U.S.) before the stupid Euro Dollar. So it mweans they now cost ten dollars more than they did in 1999.
There can be 7 to 13 shrooms in one of these plastic containers along with a medical sheet on actions and reactions. However, it is a standard sheet used by every dealer int he Country only weach company puts a different name at the top but the descriptions of effects and what the shrooms do are all written by the same person. The sheets come in English, French, German, Spanish, Italian, Portugese, Dutch, etc. And are give tot he buyer when purchasing these doses.
The P. cubensis comes in a one ounce package and the P. tampanensis slerotia comes in a 15 gram package allt he same prices.
I have posted the others here. before. mj
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Re: Proper CYAN dose?? [Re: garbage]
#2020172 - 10/18/03 08:49 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Garbage, there are actually 215 species of mushrooms which are psychoactive and out of those species, 186 are psilocybian mushrooms, with another ten or so being studied in Universities as we talk here. Four of them I discovered. Anyway there are many throughout the world with MExico havving the most species of all countries.
20 in the USA. have a shroomy day
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Re: Proper CYAN dose?? [Re: mjshroomer]
#2020222 - 10/18/03 09:41 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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MJ, you have a link to the ones you discovered?
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mjshroomer
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Re: Proper CYAN dose?? [Re: Voodoo]
#2020309 - 10/18/03 11:02 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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cHECK wORKMANWS SITE. hE HAS ALREADY CONDUCTED SOEM WORK ON THE pSILOCYBE VIOLACEA AND THE pSILOCYBE ANGKORIA (cITADEL OF THE cELL) SHROOM.
MY PAPER AT MY SITE ON pSILOCYBE SAMUIENSIS gUZMAN, BANDALA AND aLLEN
MY SITE IS HTP://WWW.MUSHROOMJOHN.COM GO TO THE ARTICLES SECTION AND SEE THAILAND 3 OR 4 FOR THE SAMUIENSIS PAPER,
PLUS THE OTHER SPECIES, WORKMAN HAS ONE OF THEM, CHULALONGKORN IN THAILAND HAS TWO FOR A FORTHCOMING PAPER ALONG WITH TWO OTHER NEW SPECIES AND GUZMAN HAS THREE SPECIES IN MEXICO HE HAS NOT YET WORKED ON
MJSHROOMER
THERE IS ALSO THE NEW SPECIES DISCOVERED BY LIZARD KING, AND A FEW MORE I CANNOT TALK ABOUT YET
MJ
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Great Scott
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Re: Proper CYAN dose?? [Re: mjshroomer]
#2020422 - 10/18/03 12:06 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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i'm a seattle-ite my shrooms are found around the UW...to west seattle, and also up north in shoreline
thanks for the comprehensive dosage ranges MJ i really appreciate it thanks
peace
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