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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: PsilosKube]
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That's a damn good question. I was wondering the same thing myself The most mushrooms I've eaten was 6 grams dry..At that amount, anything can happen. I'd imagine beyond that you'd have extreme ego-loss and have a hard time looking past the visuals...But, hopefully we'll hear from these brave souls who have pondered into these realms.. peace


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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: Hashbury]
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well that really isn't all that much sure i know it is a hell of a trip but i wounder more around the lines of 15 grams dry that would be fun i'm sure. lol


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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: PsilosKube]
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Forum6&Number=561221&Forum=Forum6&Words=the%20most%20you&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=560795&Search=true#Post561221

DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS WITHOUT HELP. PLEASE.

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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: PsilosKube]
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Well, I have once consumed 9 grams(chewed them up and had them finished in 45 min) and t- 2hr 1 cup mush tea ( approx 1g per cup) and a quarter of weed between 2 people throughout the evening. Needless to say I was very messed up, but the trip is one I will never forget! I was 20 when I did this and I was just coming out of a depression that had been going on for the last 9 years, the last 2 years of it I found E ( depression and e is a dangerous combo...) This trip was the insight I needed to get out of it, but I just didn't know that before I started. About 10 minutes after ingestion my friend and I noticed the effects coming on strong. He had also dosed the same amount as I. We started watching Traffic, but 1 hour into it I felt as if the room was shaking too much because of the cinematography. We progressed into my friends room where we put in the movie Pulp Fiction and started to discuss the fabrication of society and how capitalism is pulling the wool over our eye's by using the media to warp our perspectives and to ultimately change our morals to accept the newest fashion as a stereotype to achieve and to buy as much as we can as fast as we can... yea. This conversation lasted about 7 1/2 hours ( we dosed at 8:00pm, talked until 6:00am) We did not stay in one place all night, we walked around the nieborhood a bit, still talking a mile a minute fixing the worlds problems. When I tried to get to sleep at around 7:00am whenever I closed my eye's I saw a red dragon flying around me and I felt a horrible presence of evil that was associated with it. For the next hour I was fighting this thing from what felt like a possession of me and I had won but I was exhausted. I smoked my last J and I watched the sun come up and it still is the most clear image in my head. If you decide to trip this hard be prepared for ANYTHING!! A few times during the trip my friend suddenly forgot where "up" was and got very Very confused and I was hallucinating like mad,. Everything was moving, shifting shapes, changing color but near the end of the trip it was very mellow and calming until the dragon dream. 2 years afterward I have changed my life around and things have been going straight uphill afterwards! If you do go for it have fun


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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: PsilosKube]
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ive eaten 5.5 grams dry with little noticable visuals so i could see taking more, maybe even 7 grams.

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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: FlusH]
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We progressed into my friends room where we put in the movie Pulp Fiction and started to discuss the fabrication of society and how capitalism is pulling the wool over our eye's by using the media to warp our perspectives and to ultimately change our morals to accept the newest fashion as a stereotype to achieve and to buy as much as we can as fast as we can... yea.



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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: PsilosKube]
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I really can't wait to find out what it's like. i'm doing 5 grams tommorrow night maybe...and if not in a week or two though. Then i'm gonna do 6 and then 7


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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: juicemonkey]
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There really isn't that much difference. Taking more just tends to last a bit longer. I've done 10 grams and had deeper trips on 3 grams.


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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: Xlea321]
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Bought a Half Oz of Shrooms... Split it with two other friends in a tea and we all went mad... It was fun.

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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: mr freedom]
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You're funny Mr. Freedom



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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: PsilosKube]
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Some people can dose upwards of 7 grams.
Some people can eat a bowl of fresh Jalape?o peppers.
Some people can run five marathons without resting.

Some people just can. The vast majority of us can't dose that high and "enjoy" it. I've studied alot of my tripreports and made a graph on them. There was a linear correlation between the amount of same-strenght Shrooms I took and the amount of difficulties I encountered. If I took 3 grams really strong Cubies (30+mg Psilocybin; Level 5) or 6gr average quality it was a 100% likely to spend the majority of the Tripping hours being overbombed & dysphoric because of it. If I took 1 1/2 grams (=3gr average quality or about 15mg PSB) this was the case in 50% of cases, statistically.
This is clearly a case of OVERLOAD.
Some people can take huge amounts and like it, others, perhaps more sensitive to the Shroom in some way, cannot.

In my early years one of my Psychedelic goals was to work up my doses of LSD to full force and finally conduct 500 micrograms. This was foolishness: There is NO WAY I'll EVER enjoy 10gr of strong shrooms and I am convinced it might just be the ticket to lose somthing not easily regained by doing this. In my early years the doses couldn't get high enough but now I agree with the fashiondude that said: LESS IS MORE
When the trip's not screaming into all your senses all at once, you might be able to pay more attention to what is going on.

Please people, ask yourself not "How much can I take?" but "how little will satisfy my needs?" this'll save you shitloads of trouble!



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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: PsilosKube]
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7 grams of dried Pan Cyan was the most I've done ...

Not a repeatable experience, it left some really deep dents in me mentally ... I had a really severe psychotic break in the middle of the peak and now, 8 months later, I am still trying to regain complete composure of my life. When you go that far into psychedelia, the chances of enjoying it are very low.

However I have seen that I can deal well with high doses of acid and enjoy it completely, whereas on high doses of shrooms I tend to freak out.

That being said, I NEVER dose higher than a half eighth of shrooms anymore. I've high-dosed quite a few times and have found that I really don't enjoy going that deep into trips. While I am glad to have seen how intense it can be, I could never go through it again without killing myself ... quite literally ... when time doesn't stop (it just ceases to exist) and you forget your name and everything about life (no concept makes sense), you will NOT be having fun.


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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: PsilosKube]
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I eat as many as I can grow. I don't have a scale so I don't know the gram weights. I have never heard of anyone overdosing on cubies. When I do alot I can smell them coming out of my pores and the universe becomes very fluid and pliable. Doing alot is not for everyone as some people actually like being sociable and enjoying activities while they are shrooming. I think those of us who like to do large doses tend to be more introverted and those who are gregarious and fun loving tend to enjoy the interaction with others that is possible with the lower doses. When you eat a baggie full of dried shrooms things definitely get very intense and I can imagine there are alot of people who would not enjoy this. I do. If you decide to dose large I would definitely recommend that you try to do this away from the overly inquisitive or obnoxious.


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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: PsilosKube]
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I have experimented with huge doses (12g+) without any problems. I really recommend working yourself up to it though. Try a bit of Salvia (10x) to get a feel for total loss of reality as it can be frightening and effects everybody differently. The only time I had a truly frightening trip was after falling asleep before peaking on a mere 5g. When I woke up I had total ego loss and no sense of reality at all. For a while I though I was lying outside horribly injured and was afraid to open my eyes. It just goes to show you that you should treat all trips with respect no matter what the dose is.


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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: PsilosKube]
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Check out this website.
http://www.swastika.com/rp/doingmushrooms.html

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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: cxz]
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Ive done 7 grams =intense but not terrifing I dont think I want to go any higher than that the only reason being is that I would hate to choke down any more than that there is a guy in the trip reports section that ate 40 dry grams its pretty interesting check it out if you get a chance

Edited by Sporecloud (08/11/02 01:16 PM)

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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: PsilosKube]
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I once ate a 1/2 oz of dried cubes not a experiance I would wish to repete but not one I would undo if i could.I have found at heroic doses you don't explore the trip as much as you do survive it,compleat ego loss emotions flowing over you with a depth and intencity that make them beyond rational explanation. I was tossed between places of such awe that I felt as if my soul its self was being transformed then dropped into depths of dark angiush and fear that escapeing into the void of death would of been a blessing.As I came out of the peak the intragation of self and ego was painful to say the least .When I came down for days I had the same feeling as comming out of a long fire fight or shelling. That strange mix emotions best described as disturbed.

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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: Mosby]
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First time I took about a quater of shrooms was the most intense trip I ever had. That was the night that I astral projected and met a spirit... It was very eye opening. I have dosed way higher many times since then but nevert can reach that point again... At this point I don't think I will dose anymore on mushrooms unless it's up to seven grams. Those trips are the best in the world.

Edited by nezshoo (08/11/02 06:08 PM)

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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: PsilosKube]
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I had 8g of dried cubensis once. Hardly had any visuals beyond a lot of breathing in the walls. Couldn't think rationally for a good 6 hours, then tried to go to sleep and started having very nice OEV's in the dark. Lots of bright colored lines and such. The whole trip lasted at least 8 hours, maybe 9.

I'd do more, and will sometime. It's an insane trip if you like it intense.


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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: trendal]
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5g dried cubes. Kinda weird expirence, not good, not bad. I just kinda sat in the corner for a long long long time my friends said HEH


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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: PsilosKube]
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I did ten grams once, mind you, the day before a plane trip (you'd expect the anxiety of terorist bombings would have rubbed off onto my trip)
But no... It was very intense, nothing I'd declare a bad trip...
And in the end, my best words to some it all up would be, "No Biggie"

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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: PsilosKube]
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my friend and i once split an ounce (was suposed to be devided by three, but the other flaked out) it was intense, but i liked it! we tried to watch pink floyds the wall, but more times than not we found that the real wall was much more interesting. the one thing i noticed more on this trip than any other ive had was the exateration of time.....man it went by slow, i remember we were really tripping on the time at one point that night- we sat in front of a clock for about 45 min..... seemed like hours


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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: wrestler_az]
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I can answer this one. For me, several years of tripping allowed me to be comfortable tripping alone, as I trust myself way more than the emotions of others. This allows me to take a ton at one time when I am fully ready to take on everything or give into anything presented to me. Be at peace with yourself and know yourself, a small dose trip can be just as enjoyable, "but" someone here said once you cross the 6gram barrier things start to become very different. Egoloss is something I enjoy but gettting there and comming back are as hellish as sitting down and chewing 8grams of mushrooms.....Anyway being ready and not being affraid not being very affraid is comforting....


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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: egolesss]
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I feel the same way you do.

Play by play...

Quality has a lot to do with a trip. Although the linked trip sounds like a lot, the quality of the trip was low.

Set and setting are critical.

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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: egolesss]
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In reply to:
Some people can dose upwards of 7 grams.
Some people can eat a bowl of fresh Jalape?o peppers.
Some people can run five marathons without resting.





Well said. i myself have a very high tolerance, dunno if it has anything to do with all the cid i ate in my younger years, but i can eat the shit out of shrooms.

about a month ago, before i went "legal" i finished up the last i had with a friend. I ate 2/3 more than him, with no visuals, no walls breathing, just a good easy buzz, probably maybe a strong 2. my buddy on the other hand when peaking, got catanonic. he just set there with his eyes closed, and every once in awhile, grunted ( lol no shit, was funny as hell) , even when he came down, he saw the curtains breathing, tracers etc. and this was on a third of what i ate.


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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: Learyfan]
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you shoose better mushrooms than cubensis


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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: Zen Peddler]
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Better as in you don't have to eat as much to get the same effects, or better as in the trip itself is better?

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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: zeta]
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both.
Then it takes less imagination for people's posts here.
I doubt anyone could eat 7 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens properly weighed - you would be institutionalised... Four grams broke me in every sweet way...There was no up or down or right and wrong - there was no existence no world or time - just myriad patterns forever....


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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: Zen Peddler]
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That sounds amazing.
Would azurescens mess you up even more?

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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: zeta]
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From all reports azures are hard on the body. Ive never tried them myself, but lesser woodloving psilocybes are incredible and unique mushrooms


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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: Zen Peddler]
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Nah, after a certain level you don't trip any harder. The brain only has so many receptors. After around 3-5 grams there's no increase in intensity the trip just lasts a little longer because there's more of it floating round in your system.

This idea that if you took a massive dose of a psychedelic you would become deranged is just urban myth. Tim Leary said he experimented with giving people massive doses and unless you told them they never knew if it was a large dose or a standard 300-500 microgram dose. Of course telling people they are taking a big dose is likely to make people think they have tripped harder but it's just placebo effect.


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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: Xlea321]
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Despite the level of the dosage of either substance the length or duration of the experience is never increased - it is a blanket length despite the dosage.


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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: PsilosKube]
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Genetic variability in both the man and the mushroom could account for differences in doses required (or tolerable) by any given individual. Also, depending on the spcies/strain, the environmental or growing factors could result in variable concentrations of "chemicals" in any given batch...


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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: TreeCulture]
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5 grams is my limit. Any more than that and the experience is just..well..unpleasant. I almost always take 1.5-2 grams as my standard dose. Enough to be fun, get some good visuals, and still have time for some introspective thinking. Everyone is different I s'pose


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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams [Re: PsilosKube]
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Responses on this thread surprised me a bit

Personally I don't eat mushrooms unless I have AT LEAST an eighth of an ounce. A quarter would probably be my preferred dose.

Considering the population here I'm surprised that more people don't eat like that.
I'd much rather trip once on 8 grams than trip 4 times on 2 grams each.


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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: PsilosKube]
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I've only dosed at this level once and it was pretty goddamn intense, incl. speaking in tounges,sharing body/mind space with an unidentifiable "other",and feelings that i had levitated across the room (seen by others as well, tho they were bemushed as well). I was left with no dobut that all the seemingly random events we experience in life are in fact parts of a pattern so complex we can't normally access it. My dingy apt was transformed into a cathedral of light , flourescent mathematical formulas wizzing by over the jewelled dome ceiling. I'd say go for it at least once in yr life at a time when you feel comfortable handling it.I know I went from being a cynical nihilist to feeling that there was a reason to go on living despite all the ups and downs.

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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: Zen Peddler]
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Quote:
I doubt anyone could eat 7 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens properly weighed - you would be institutionalised...



If I can get my hands on them, I'll eat 7 dried grams, and be fine in 6 hours.  :grin:

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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: Sick_Of_It_All]
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The most i've dosed was 10.5 grams or 3 eigths, and i did have some x that night also, but its almost not worth mentioning because the shrooms totally over powered it. The main difference, i noticed anyway, from that trip to one say about 6 or 7 grams was the amount of distortion i noticed in music, and from what people were saying. There were times where i stumbled over to the CD player to see if it was skipping, and it wasn't. There was also the extreme time distortion, at one point i looked at my watch, and you know how the seconds hand ticks, goes to a spot stops goes to another, well when i looked at my watch during this trip the seconds hand was just cruising around my watch, not stopping at all. I also ended up trowing up about half an hour after i ingested the last eigth, that was an interesting experience, its never fun seeing what was once in your bopdy come out while trippin, but the trip was a success and was a lot of fun, even tried to play chess, but that lasted all about 2 seconds.


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Re: How the hell do people dose upwards of 7 grams? [Re: Sick_Of_It_All]
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Quite amusing - even fresh copes are light, dried they are like feathers - the amount of copelandias dried that you would need to eat 7 grams would easily be close to 100+ - and there is just no way someone would not have had their minds implode on that kind of copelandia dosage.
One dried gram for me was about 42 dried specimens weighed out!


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