Arkyhog said:

I'm excited to share that I've finally set up my dreamer tubs. I chose to position the fan as an exhaust on the same side as the humidity input. This allows the mist to flow across the tub, down the opposite wall, and back toward the fan at the bottom. I expect to have my Lions Mane grain ready when I return from Miami next weekend, so I'll be sure to share some pictures of them in action then. For now, here's a glimpse of the setup!

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YoshiTrainer said:

Klarn, El Yucateco makes a XXX red version that is pretty tasty!

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tryptkaloids said:

overfed Titan triplets

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nocap said:

I’ve been wrong before, and right now could be another one of those times

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nocap said:

But, I don’t think that a clone is necessarily an isolate.  Especially if starting from spore and haven’t been chasing sectors on agar.

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nocap said:

To be clear, I’m not advocating any benefits of isolates or chasing sectors..

Only hoping to illustrate some consensus that a single clone-worthy fruitbody would most likely be comprised of multiple strains as would resultant, later spawn from said clone.

I think we are on the same page.

Edit: 420 post

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Wedgie said:

Beautifully put! 🍄
Plus yeah agar can be so much fun, wait people here do not sector
or do you mean no transferring to another plate? No worries yeah to their own!😎

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misterswisher said:

IE the true albino teacher family. Tat multispore is tat multispore, however clones(good refined once not single plate clones) like Jack Frost, ghost, yeti ect.

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Jack Frost, Ghost, Yeti are not clones! (or did you just run out of gas because it's late, and not finish that last paragraph? a lot of the rest of that post made sense.)

There can be clones of Jack Frost, Ghost, Yeti, etc, but those are varieties (commonly mis-described, even by vendors, as "strains")

Anything that can be grown from spores is not a clone. It's a MS (multi-spore grow)

When you put spores to agar you produce millions of strains, one new one every time spores combine. Each combo can have slightly different genetics, just like with humans and their children. 

A variety is the result of finding a pheho you like and selecting about 8 generations to increase the chance of having a semi-stable variety from spores of that down the line.

A clone would be a single shroom cloned to make a line that is very similar from shroom to shroom and box to box.

One thing though is that even a clone will produce some genetic diversity, it's that old "life finds a way" thing. A clone is probably several "strains" but not nearly as many as a MS grow.

But with time it wants to make new forms. Which is how you get an albino here and there or a really tall one or really fat one or really strong one from a MS grow or even from a clone grow.

And back to "life finds a way", here's the thread where Verum did 80 sequential transfers of trying to isolate "sectors" and it kept sectoring.

Pic VAT: a clone tub (16 quart) I grew that still had some variety from one shroom to another.