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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 6
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28276371/fpart/118/vc/1

Posted this in post while tripping.  1 tablespoon of freeze dried semperviva popcorn circa 4m old. maybe little older. 

Very nice.  Going to increase dose by 1 tablespoon at a time. 

Very nice stuff.  Really left me with an afterglow all day, and quite tender (in a kind way) this afternoon.  Watched "The Healer" and had some tears of love flowing.  I'll post up more experience results.  Fun to grow mushrooms, but my main focus is really the experience.  Just figured I would share here since people have been talking about myceliated grain. 

And my t2 plates are growing nicely.  T1 jars too early to see much growth and the mother spawn to bulk is taking off.....The mother is from clean plates started from a culture from callmehippie.  I'm really hoping I can fruit this stuff and make some prints to share.


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I may not have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express, but I have taken 20 grams of fresh subtropicalis :smile:

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Hardhead] * 17
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:cheers:

T3  spawned 5/26






Edited by LewDoja (06/15/25 06:24 PM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: LewDoja] * 11
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Master Lew, that's some sweet eye candy.  Looking forward to updates :popcorn:


So I ate some semps last night to get my feet wet with the species.  Started with 0.3g, then ate another 0.1g after an hour.  That booster dose was crucial to the experience, and it also taught me what y'all mean when you say the effect of these things does not behave in a linear progression, but instead increases by orders of magnitude!  The difference between 0.3 and 0.4 was clear.

It was not overwhelming but it did hit a sweet spot.  Some things I noticed: 

  • I didn't feel an uncomfortable body-load on the come-up like with cubes, but instead a loose intoxication like that of good clean liquor, motor function definitely impaired, but without discomfort
  • I craved weed hard during the come-up, but didn't once the experience settled in
  • After 2 hours, the intoxication subsided and yielded to straight positive vibes with carefree mental engagement
  • The experience seemed to subside fairly quickly after 3 hours.  The drop-off curve seemed fairly steep
  • For the second time in a row I've craved a sliver of L while on semps, like 1/3 of a hit.  Probably should remember this next time.  Better late than never, I ate the sliver today.  Sunday slivers are the best :sunny:


Anyway, thought I'd share my experience, might help someone else new to semps


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Dala]
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I'm looking forward to it.

I wonder if we shouldn't be calling these 'Subs' or 'Subtropicalis'?


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Psilocybe Taxonomy

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Dr. Smoke] * 1
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:shrug: Jimmy Herring, the White Wizard, same thing in my book


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Dala]
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"hoogshagenii var convexa and semperviva are old outdated names for the species called Psilocybe subtropicales."


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Dr. Smoke] * 2
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J[
Dr. Smoke said:
"hoogshagenii var convexa and semperviva are old outdated names for the species called Psilocybe subtropicales."


Pleas don’t copy/paste a quote without citing the source. I’m pretty happy calling the genetics Semperviva.

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: The Tao] * 2
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I want to be able to say that I'm simping for semps, so Semps it is.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: The Tao]
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The Tao said:
Pleas don’t copy/paste a quote without citing the source.


Touché.

This thread, page 1.

Apologies to all

PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
I want to be able to say that I'm simping for semps, so Semps it is.


...except the Luddite.  And while I'm at it, it's not "Ocher", but "Ochra".  I guess you want it to be Ocher though...  {sigh}  Did I give you a rating for nothing, boy?


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Edited by Dr. Smoke (06/15/25 08:45 PM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Dr. Smoke] * 4
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If I could read, I might be offended



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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Dr. Smoke] * 4
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That Luddite is my friend and I recently sent him a Semperviva print.
You’ve recently deleted 29 of your 98 posts.

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: The Tao]
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Why yes, I did.  That was my extensive research offered up for review, but was assaulted as a reward.  Not putting up with the conventional vitriol you find everywhere else, and that Luddite was part of the problem.

For now I am only publishing what I choose, and not opening up a huge attack surface like I did before.  Progress is only made in safe environments.  If getting hit by a 2x4 is the environment, well...


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Dr. Smoke] * 2
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Dr. Smoke said:
And while I'm at it, it's not "Ocher", but "Ochra".  I guess you want it to be Ocher though...  {sigh}  Did I give you a rating for nothing, boy?


I fixed it, thank you for the correction!


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
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:j

Yw.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Dr. Smoke] * 4
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"Semps" rolls off the tongue better than "subs"... which sounds like a sadomasochistic kink thread :dominatrix::dominatrix:

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: LewDoja] * 4
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Subs just confuses the fuck out of the Aussies.



Also, it seems as though semperviva was an early taxon, now just an alias?


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Official Ps papuana Cultivation Thread
exotic indexes: Ps zapotecorum varieties, Ps papuana
my grow logs: Ps neoxalapensis, Ps baeocystis, Ps papuana

Edited by wavyedge (06/16/25 01:42 AM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: wavyedge] * 1
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Whelp, it is so nice to make a difference...

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make 'im drink.


Come to think of it, this sort of inertia is why the advancement of Science has been so slow and disappointing to me over the past 50 years.  We could have been so much more.  But we lost the Kennedys, taking the first derivative. (calculus) Taking the second derivative The Summer of Love was the last gasp of what we should have been.

And it's why I mostly keep to myself what I know.  And why I changed my subtitle to 'Strange'.  Remember, Different™, is hazardous.

Chinese Proverb: "Nail with highest head, gets hammered down."


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Edited by Dr. Smoke (06/16/25 01:58 AM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: wavyedge] * 4
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:whathesaid:

And Kiwis, P. subaeruginosa = subs.

Quote from this write up I found:
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The Taxonomic Journey: From Semperviva to Subtropicalis

The first significant chapter in the story of Psilocybe subtropicalis was written in 1958, when mycologists Roger Heim and Roger Cailleux identified a species they dubbed Psilocybe semperviva. Decades later, in 1983, the esteemed Gastón Guzmán—an absolute legend in the psilocybin world—gave the mushroom another pass, classifying it as Psilocybe hoogshagenii var. convexa & Psilocybe semperviva. But this is where the plot thickens. Thanks to DNA analysis that redefined what we thought we knew about mushroom genetics, it became clear that these names all referred to the same mushroom. By 1995, Guzmán reclassified the mushroom as Psilocybe subtropicalis, sealing its place as a unique species within the genus.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Dkeppel] * 1
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We have 'notsubs' as well, thankfully I doubt they'll be called that once sequenced :lol:

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Dkeppel]
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I prefer subtrops :amanita2:


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