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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT 🛑 ochraceocentrata) thread!

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#29168747 - 03/25/25 02:07 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I don't know what Yoshi is using. But he's growing them in smaller trays and seems to find that preferable so my guess, based on that and where they are found (in grass not on shit) is no they are not like cubes but they are more like other grass species like tampenesis.

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#29168830 - 03/25/25 03:53 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

So smaller trays with grass seed sown into it? Just trying to get an understanding of how best to aim my shot when I get my true nat spores shortly. Like Hamilton, I'm Not going to lose my shot.

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#29169050 - 03/25/25 09:23 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

One of these is chlorocystis, but I wanted to show you this picture quantum zoo because you can see I switch to a shallower tray and I'm also applying the grass seed in a pattern where it's much more clumped in the middle and a lot thinner toward the edges.

I don't know if this will work better, but my thought is that it will give the mushrooms both the benefit of the grass and areas it can pin and mature well without drowning.

Of course, if the bacterial control works as well as the grass that will give it a nice pinning surface without the hassle.

We will see how it goes, I put everything in the tent earlier today. So maybe in 2 weeks I will have knots to share :lol:

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Edit: This is the bacteria I keep mentioning. The use isn't random, I've looked at enzymes this bacteria produces and it matches an enzyme produced by a bacteria that improves pinning in agarricus and oyster studies.

https://bigfootmyco.com/shop/root-boost-nitrogen-fixing-azospirillum/

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#29169117 - 03/25/25 11:23 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Here's a picture of some weird spider egg like structure in the 2 month old grain jar I just spawned. I still haven't seen any stones.

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#29169151 - 03/26/25 12:22 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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#29169286 - 03/26/25 05:39 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

QuantumZ00 said:

So smaller trays with grass seed sown into it? Just trying to get an understanding of how best to aim my shot when I get my true nat spores shortly. Like Hamilton, I'm Not going to lose my shot.

Think Semilanceata.... Reflect on it

Remember that they've been grown indoors with a reasonable level of difficulty but definitely not impossible as people used to think. Semilanceata vs Real Natalensis

Food for thought :cookiemonster:

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT 🛑 ochraceocentrata) thread!

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#29172425 - 03/29/25 08:59 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Yoshi made a recent post where he mentioned he is using coir/verm and the bucket tek. He grew a few large fruits in a bag, and also did a shoebox with success.

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#29172447 - 03/29/25 09:15 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Yeah, he said most fruits are averaging about 3-4" now. Largest seemed about 6" judging by his hand. He said his best flush came from a clone. And that he had one tray that sat doing nothing until he cased it, and that that fruited well once he did.

He's also working toward domestication. So, he's selecting for genetics that folks can grow easily without nitrogen, are co2 colerant, and don't require a casing to fruit well.

Definitely excited to see how well they did in the bag. I'm sure now that my issue wasn't oxygen, but that I was drowning them between the grass, the casing, and the pan tent.

I'm still angling for the bacteria being highly beneficial for this species.
Obviously not necessary. But I think it's going to be beneficial for a lot of other exotics too. I'll update more once I have some results.

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#29179549 - 04/05/25 02:43 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

True Nats growing well, T1

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#29179915 - 04/06/25 12:44 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Treating my Nats same as pans which I model after the conditions I find shrooms in their natural environment, think I must’ve cased too early though as the myc has risen through it like a tide :shrug:

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might leave it a few days and case again, see what happens

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#29181912 - 04/08/25 12:09 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

catnip40 said:

Found the color pics but they are small anyway

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT 🛑 ochraceocentrata) thread!

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#29182405 - 04/08/25 12:34 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

catnip40 said:

catnip40 said:

Found the color pics but they are small anyway

Top left looks like extremely sandy soil.

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#29182406 - 04/08/25 12:36 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I thought that was a rock lol :lol:

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#29182410 - 04/08/25 12:39 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

catnip40 said:

I thought that was a rock lol

It could be but it sure does look awfully gritty. Almost like limestone sand.

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#29182414 - 04/08/25 12:48 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

It's a rock.

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#29182421 - 04/08/25 12:58 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Yeah I figured they just laid those out there to give different contrast.

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#29182433 - 04/08/25 01:16 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

DERRAYLD said:

It's a rock.

Like I said it could be a rock, but If they just laid them there for the picture. The rock looks like limestone to me very similar to this particular piece.

Gritty not like a typical stone. I would venture to guess the soil is extremely sand very similar to the area I live with large deposits of limestone. Only tossing this out there as a theory that maybe a sandy casing would be a suitable option.

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#29182461 - 04/08/25 01:40 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Sir, that is cat shit.

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#29182462 - 04/08/25 01:45 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Catshit covered in lime stone dust

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#29182484 - 04/08/25 02:13 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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Sir, that is cat shit.

I licked it just to check...for science. :billnye:

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