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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: SirTripAlot]
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SirTripAlot said:
The US holds individual rights paramount. Greedy capitalism has benefits. That post you just typed, what was the brand name of your device? Your internet provider?  I bet you are paying some rich shareholder, CEO, indirectly. Thats not a pipedream

People can post whatever the fuck about pie in the sky shit. I guess it makes them feel better and puts them in a state of denial about their own "greedy" lives.

I embrace it.


I only want basic comfort. Nothing i havent worked my ass off for.

Its a sad environment to accept greed.
Its a samsung. On att.

I have no probl3m paying a nominal fee for a basic service, which even in second world countries are commonplace.
So what is your point?
Individual rights arent paramount here.
Protecting capital and property is.


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hmm...

"I'm naked and fearless... And my fear is naked."

"life isn't worth living without the threat of death"

"I got my plans in a ziploc bag, let's see how unproductive we can be"

"nobody lives their lives fully except for bull fighters"

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: SirTripAlot] * 3
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SirTripAlot said:
The US holds individual rights paramount. Greedy capitalism has benefits. That post you just typed, what was the brand name of your device? Your internet provider?  I bet you are paying some rich shareholder, CEO, indirectly. Thats not a pipedream


Lmao can this shitty argument just die already?



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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ashfiken] * 1
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ashfiken said:
Individual rights arent paramount here.
Protecting capital and property is.


:whathesaid:

It takes a significant amount of delusion to look at the current state of the USA and conclude that individual rights are the guiding force of society.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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shivas.wisdom said:
SirTripAlot said:
The US holds individual rights paramount. Greedy capitalism has benefits. That post you just typed, what was the brand name of your device? Your internet provider?  I bet you are paying some rich shareholder, CEO, indirectly. Thats not a pipedream


Lmao can this shitty argument just die already?





Coming from a proponent of being an anarchist , thats rich. Nothing like telling the truth to get the ideological cumshot to emerge. Iive in the real world. Things will get better once our species is gone.


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“I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
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Wouldnt drugs the reason we are on this site at least psyches be legal if individual rights were paramount?
How abt vaccine mandates in sectors incl military?
We are a country that parades choices and options, however illusory, as individual rights..


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hmm...

"I'm naked and fearless... And my fear is naked."

"life isn't worth living without the threat of death"

"I got my plans in a ziploc bag, let's see how unproductive we can be"

"nobody lives their lives fully except for bull fighters"

My Trade List

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: SirTripAlot]
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Oh and make sure none of your Canadian loans reach those greedy corporations.

:cookiemonster:


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“I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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Companies grift selling tech ology developed by the governments

Untill the government makes companies invest back into their workers and invest into research and development instead of paying shareholders, society will suck

Once upon a time you got tax breaks for investing back into your company


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For most of the normies out there, an operating system is just a bootloader for Google Chrome.

And I don't know what the mantis is praying for
But he's probably just thanking the Lord
That he don't live in a home
And he don't got a phone
And he don't sit around all angry and bored
(He's just a bug)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: SirTripAlot]
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SirTripAlot said:
shivas.wisdom said:
SirTripAlot said:
The US holds individual rights paramount. Greedy capitalism has benefits. That post you just typed, what was the brand name of your device? Your internet provider?  I bet you are paying some rich shareholder, CEO, indirectly. Thats not a pipedream


Lmao can this shitty argument just die already?





Coming from a proponent of being an anarchist , thats rich. Nothing like telling the truth to get the ideological cumshot to emerge. Iive in the real world. Things will get better once our species is gone.


Anarchists still strive and contribute to a community. Dont be such a brute


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hmm...

"I'm naked and fearless... And my fear is naked."

"life isn't worth living without the threat of death"

"I got my plans in a ziploc bag, let's see how unproductive we can be"

"nobody lives their lives fully except for bull fighters"

My Trade List

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: gopher]
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gopher said:
Companies grift selling tech ology developed by the governments

Untill the government makes companies invest back into their workers and invest into research and development instead of paying shareholders, society will suck

Once upon a time you got tax breaks for investing back into your company


Once upon a time you retired with a bloody pension


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hmm...

"I'm naked and fearless... And my fear is naked."

"life isn't worth living without the threat of death"

"I got my plans in a ziploc bag, let's see how unproductive we can be"

"nobody lives their lives fully except for bull fighters"

My Trade List

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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shivas.wisdom said:
I'm an anarchist



When Mussolini is attributed to have said that every anarchist is a baffled dictator, I interpret it to mean that you would have your druthers. I mean, you would like things to be done your own way as would every anarchist.

I can assign myself to constructive pastimes, all day, everyday. Maybe, you can. idk. :shrug:

But, most of the public can't function without some form of external authority, by which we customarily set our clocks. You can't produce a glass of clean water or know how to go to the restroom on an independent basis, or, if you did, would be solving eternal problems of the human condition, attracting hangers-on.


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WEF defector.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/shit-burgers-meat-made-from-human-feces-just-another-natela
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: durian_2008]
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durian_2008 said:
shivas.wisdom said:
I'm an anarchist



When Mussolini is attributed to have said that every anarchist is a baffled dictator, I interpret it to mean that you would have your druthers. I mean, you would like things to be done your own way as would every anarchist.

I can assign myself to constructive pastimes, all day, everyday. Maybe, you can. idk. :shrug:

But, most of the public can't function without some form of external authority, by which we customarily set our clocks. You can't produce a glass of clean water or know how to go to the restroom on an independent basis, or, if you did, would be solving eternal problems of the human condition, attracting hangers-on.


No.

Ppl.can work together without contrived overhanging control to creare novelties. Technologies. Advances. And cutting edge tools. We were doing this even as monkeys. No civilization involved


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hmm...

"I'm naked and fearless... And my fear is naked."

"life isn't worth living without the threat of death"

"I got my plans in a ziploc bag, let's see how unproductive we can be"

"nobody lives their lives fully except for bull fighters"

My Trade List

Edited by ashfiken (02/16/25 04:04 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: SirTripAlot] * 1
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SirTripAlot said:
Coming from a proponent of being an anarchist , thats rich. Nothing like telling the truth to get the ideological cumshot to emerge. Iive in the real world. Things will get better once our species is gone.

[...]

Oh and make sure none of your Canadian loans reach those greedy corporations.

:cookiemonster:


What about anarchy precludes criticising the society I live in? And what loans are you even talking about?

Seems like you're just getting defensive in response to your self-admitted selfishness being called out for the personal choice that it is. I thought you embraced it?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: durian_2008] * 1
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durian_2008 said:
shivas.wisdom said:
I'm an anarchist



When Mussolini is attributed to have said that every anarchist is a baffled dictator, I interpret it to mean that you would have your druthers. I mean, you would like things to be done your own way as would every anarchist.


I would interpret it as Mussolini being a fascist dictator trying to justify his own behaviour.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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durian_2008 said:
solving eternal problems of the human condition, attracting hangers-on.


ashfiken said:
Ppl.can work together without contrived overhanging control


Without admins or mods?

Technically possible but not according to Murphy's Law.

shivas.wisdom said:
I would interpret it as Mussolini being a fascist dictator trying to justify his own behaviour.


But, can you make trains run on time or satisfy the basic livings of most people, around you.

Most people will never be satisfied to live within their own means, or survival would be impossible. If you provide it, they will not be independent. What can you do?


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https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/shit-burgers-meat-made-from-human-feces-just-another-natela
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upload_(TV_series)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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shivas.wisdom said:
SirTripAlot said:
Coming from a proponent of being an anarchist , thats rich. Nothing like telling the truth to get the ideological cumshot to emerge. Iive in the real world. Things will get better once our species is gone.

[...]

Oh and make sure none of your Canadian loans reach those greedy corporations.

:cookiemonster:


What about anarchy precludes criticising the society I live in? And what loans are you even talking about?

Seems like you're just getting defensive in response to your self-admitted selfishness being called out for the personal choice that it is. I thought you embraced it?


Sorry, I meant loons.

I will push a red button. Everyone will receive all capital, land, everything equally.  I am sure your affinity groups could maintain that...for about 5 days. As much as you think my outlook is bullshit (LMFAO, and I quote)  yours is likewise. Mine has manifested and makes this country number one (in my book).  Yours is a certified pupedream that will never see the light of day.

Just so we have clarity.


--------------------
“I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: SirTripAlot]
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SirTripAlot said:
shivas.wisdom said:
SirTripAlot said:
Coming from a proponent of being an anarchist , thats rich. Nothing like telling the truth to get the ideological cumshot to emerge. Iive in the real world. Things will get better once our species is gone.

[...]

Oh and make sure none of your Canadian loans reach those greedy corporations.

:cookiemonster:


What about anarchy precludes criticising the society I live in? And what loans are you even talking about?

Seems like you're just getting defensive in response to your self-admitted selfishness being called out for the personal choice that it is. I thought you embraced it?


Sorry, I meant loons.

I will push a red button. Everyone will receive all capital, land, everything equally.  I am sure your affinity groups could maintain that...for about 5 days. As much as you think my outlook is bullshit (LMFAO, and I quote)  yours is likewise. Mine has manifested and makes this country number one (in my book).  Yours is a certified pupedream that will never see the light of day.

Just so we have clarity.



You are so concerned with property aka greed that when you want to add it all up and hand it out it makes a mess. Bc of proposed greed expounded.
To do such a thing would take no greedy shitty humans and we can all agrer thats not likely to happen


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hmm...

"I'm naked and fearless... And my fear is naked."

"life isn't worth living without the threat of death"

"I got my plans in a ziploc bag, let's see how unproductive we can be"

"nobody lives their lives fully except for bull fighters"

My Trade List

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: SirTripAlot] * 1
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SirTripAlot said:
Sorry, I meant loons.

I will push a red button. Everyone will receive all capital, land, everything equally.  I am sure your affinity groups could maintain that...for about 5 days. As much as you think my outlook is bullshit (LMFAO, and I quote)  yours is likewise. Mine has manifested and makes this country number one (in my book).  Yours is a certified pupedream that will never see the light of day.

Just so we have clarity.


It was actually just 'lmao' and it was specifically in reference to the tired argument that you can't criticise society if you participate in it: "that post you just typed, what was the brand name of your device? Your internet provider?  I bet you are paying some rich shareholder, CEO, indirectly."

And yeah, any sweeping fundamental change to society that came about at the push of a button would likely lead to mass chaos in the immediate aftermath - you're not really saying anything profound here.

Similarly, everything was a pipedream until it happened. Individual capitalism was a pipedream under the divine right of kings, until slowly society moved forward and it wasn't. I guess you don't believe any future advancements to society will occur? Because they're all still just pipedreams at the moment. Once again, you're not really saying anything very profound here.

You can go ahead and shelter in the notion that the USA is number one and that most people are selfish, but I will always be looking for ways to improve myself and the world I live in beyond what seems possible today.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: SirTripAlot] * 1
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SirTripAlot said:
shivas.wisdom said:
SirTripAlot said:
The US holds individual rights paramount. Greedy capitalism has benefits. That post you just typed, what was the brand name of your device? Your internet provider?  I bet you are paying some rich shareholder, CEO, indirectly. Thats not a pipedream


Lmao can this shitty argument just die already?





Coming from a proponent of being an anarchist , thats rich. Nothing like telling the truth to get the ideological cumshot to emerge. Iive in the real world. Things will get better once our species is gone.


It’s so funny to lecture others on realpolitik and the feasibility of change, and then conclude that the extermination of the human race is what we should be aiming for.

What’s that old saying?

“Don’t shoot for the moon, even if you think you might land among the stars. Kill yourself.”


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic]
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You don't fail to mischaracterize, Just got my fix for the day.

1. I never called for the extermination of the human species. If you can post that, I will own up to it. If you cant back your claim...gasp...own up to it.

2. Things will get better when our species is gone. No more war, no poverty, etc. In fact, all the utopian ideals that people love to spout.... won't be met to that occurs, thats how ridiculous the claims are. Unless there is a system that can change human motivations from self interest to the altruism (that goes from the civilains all the way to the state), we ALL have it coming. I submit the entirety of human history to back this claim.

3. Until that time, we are left with what we have. Capitalism and our form of government has serious flaws but it remains our best shot. Does that mean we shouldnt try and refine it? Of course we should, but throwing the baby out with the bathwater is bullshit. We have a firm foundation to work on.

If someone can invent a better system for the real world, let that play out. Where exactly is that? We have people BUYING  our debt. Our currency is absolutely DEPENDED on for all things finanical, and yes, for all the naysayers and haters, we do bring more stability to the world, than instability (by a cunt hair, but we can get better).Look at how Europe freaks the fuck out when our dumbass president floats the idea that they may be in it alone for their defense.

We so big bad USA, yet close to 15% of our population is made up from other countires. In fact, we have more than the next four  COMBINED. I guess all those people love misery and an unequal system. Why doesn't the world move to to all those "more enlightened " countries?

4. We all have it coming, especially for the meddling and conflict we have committed. Other countries have it too, lets all get in line. If there is a time when the USA is dethroned because of this, I will have to accept there was a superior system. Until that time, I will be at least thankful for abundance bestowed within my life.... being "lower middle class". Not going to cry in my beer,  and make others who are more well off, the booggggie man. I have seen a decent portion of the world; people have no clue the standard of life we have here (and its not even number one, supposedly)....sadly, even those citizens in poverty.

So, holy shit if I don't constantly bash the USA on every fundamental thing that makes us, us. I also won't feel guilty for having what I do have or wanting something more.


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“I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

Edited by SirTripAlot (02/16/25 09:01 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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shivas.wisdom said:
SirTripAlot said:
Sorry, I meant loons.

I will push a red button. Everyone will receive all capital, land, everything equally.  I am sure your affinity groups could maintain that...for about 5 days. As much as you think my outlook is bullshit (LMFAO, and I quote)  yours is likewise. Mine has manifested and makes this country number one (in my book).  Yours is a certified pupedream that will never see the light of day.

Just so we have clarity.


It was actually just 'lmao' and it was specifically in reference to the tired argument that you can't criticise society if you participate in it: "that post you just typed, what was the brand name of your device? Your internet provider?  I bet you are paying some rich shareholder, CEO, indirectly."

And yeah, any sweeping fundamental change to society that came about at the push of a button would likely lead to mass chaos in the immediate aftermath - you're not really saying anything profound here.

Similarly, everything was a pipedream until it happened. Individual capitalism was a pipedream under the divine right of kings, until slowly society moved forward and it wasn't. I guess you don't believe any future advancements to society will occur? Because they're all still just pipedreams at the moment. Once again, you're not really saying anything very profound here.

You can go ahead and shelter in the notion that the USA is number one and that most people are selfish, but I will always be looking for ways to improve myself and the world I live in beyond what seems possible today.


I get it, your meme was profound...my bad. See the response above. Let me know when your autonomous political force takes over, until that time I will take what I have over here.


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“I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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