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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Icon] * 1
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Icon said:
90% of us are unconvicted drug felons. When did we start caring about convicting felons?

And obviously it's not that simple or he would have been in jail decades ago. The amount of times democrats have swung and missed is starting to get embarrassing. The whole frenzy around trying to convict him and hold him accountable for anything possible is what's driving the far right's popular message that the state is just a tool being used against their messiah. Taking away that threat of prosecution, assassination, media bias, etc. would take all the steam out of his doomsday message. He would be back where he started, a failed businessman whining about the economy.

There's a lot of work that needs to continue being done in this country to hold the corrupt wealthy accountable. Take the struggle to prosecute Trump, and direct it toward changing the systems that allow many people just like him and worse than him to get away with crimes.



What the fuck?

There's a big difference between non-violent drug users and the violent rapey fraudey conster mobster BULLSHIT he's been allowed to get away with

It's fucking weird to make that comparison


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
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I’m agreeing with you.
Autocrats don’t usually go to prison.

But this is America. We’re not gonna let somebody become a king. We’re going to not elect him president again & he’s going to be held responsible for his crimes.
It will set a precedent for the rest of the world that nobody is above the law in this country.

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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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And I'm saying that POTUS is traditionally above the law in this country, at least in practice. 

I doubt Trumpy will be held to account in any meaningful way but there might be a play there for the Dems because if Trumpy loses again the Republican leadership is going to want to pivot away from his dumb ass but that would be hard to pull off if the base is still riled up about witch-hunts, etc.

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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: ballsalsa]
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President's have always been above the law in their  terms in office.  That's never changed. Just like a police officer having immunity for most things, really have to fuck up big big time to not be immune.
It is a witch hunt and that's the problem.

We did go after Clinton for selling nuclear secrets. We did go after Bush w for profiting on oil and opuim in Iraq and Afghanistan.  We didn't go after Obama for prison kickbacks after office.

But we go after trump for a lot of things.  It's better to let minor crimes go to not get your shit kicked in when opponents win elections.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
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The police officer analogy is a good one. In the rare instance where one is punished (ie Darren Wilson) it’s only because of intense public pressure (riots and civil unrest, and the prospect of more), and there are a thousand other murderers like him who remain in power.

But a president won’t ever have a Darren Wilson moment because they’re considerably more important to the functions of the state than a single cop is.

To be clear, Biden should be prosecuted right now for covering up Israeli war crimes, despite evidence by his own administration, and violating the Leahy Laws.

Is it going to happen? Has anyone, even people on the right even mentioned this? Of course not, because breaking the law with impunity is a big part of the president’s job description.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
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Sentencing is going to happen immediately after the elections. That’s all I have to say about this. I am pretty disappointed that every single court case was pushed back by all of the judges he had appointed.

but when he loses this election. He’s going to have to do all of those sentencing hearings.

That’s why his rhetoric is becoming so untethered from reality. The stakes are high. He’s going to get in serious trouble if he doesn’t win this and he needs that presidential immunity. Without it, I think he’s fucked.

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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
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He won’t spend a second in prison whether he wins or not.

If he wins, he absolutely won’t be held accountable and will likely escalate the criminality of his behavior.

If he loses, he’ll be protected by the court system and make some backroom deal wherein he takes his chips and leaves, allowing the GOP to set up a new Trump-less strategy going into the midterms.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: The Ecstatic]
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We will see.
I have no allusions of him getting any punishment if he wins.

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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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im slow cooking a roast while toasted as a ghost, smells most pleasing

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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Blue_Lux]
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That reminds me that I need to do a pork butt again soon


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
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I did a half loin roast chili Verde in the crockpot the other day.  It turned out pretty good but it would have been better if I had started it earlier on low

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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: ballsalsa]
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I always do my crockpot stuff on low and then I get impatient about 8 hours in and start eating directly out of it


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: The Ecstatic] * 2
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Last week I made some ropa vieja in the slow cooker.

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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: mushboy]
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We ought to defend Israel, but do innocent Persians deserve to pay the price for their leaders' tyranny? Netanyahu was right about that one.

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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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The ban lottery is rigged. The US election is rigged. Both candidates are weird choices AF. The republicans seem to be more democratic on some typical democrat issues, than the Democrats are. Rumsfeld supporting Harris. Whaaaaat? Man, what a shitshow. Till when before civil war breaks out?

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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: cybork]
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:lolsy:
Democrats are less Democratic than the fascist party?

Try to elaborate on that.

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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said:
Last week I made some ropa vieja in the slow cooker.




Doesn't look like a rope vieja to me:shrug:

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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
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Tasted the same as the version I had in Miami at this Cuban joint.


I needed more tomato in the sauce I didn’t use enough.

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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: cybork]
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Well democrats didnt get a real choice. After we obviously didnt want Biden they could have had a debate and legit primary. They def shoved Kamala down our throats - for logical political reasons - she was the safest runner-up. But it wasn't the people's choice

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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: cybork]
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cybork said:
Till when before civil war breaks out?



Can we get it over already? I'm sick of hearing about it.


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