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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Psilosion]
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A Dick Maketi Clone from a large fruit and a Giant Short Fat Maketi clone transfer from a…giant short and fat Maketi fruit.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: CocaineBuffet]
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You wouldn't transfer the dish with the bacterial infection?

As I say these are first transfers, assuming the other dishes are clean is it better to grow them out and then select the best fruit to clone from? Opposed to further isolating the mycelium?

That would make a lot of sense to me, I ask because I have read people saying they like to make two transfers before putting agar to grain, but I would of thought a wider diversity to select clones from would be a more desirable starting point.

CocaineBuffet said:
I would just let plates 1-4 grow out and leave the last 2 in your library in case they grow out with something you want to transfer once they fill out.

I would say it is too early for me personally to transfer from any of them given you have 4 plate candidates



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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Dkeppel]
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These are t1's I took transfers from a little while back. The plates grew out clean and these still look good. Would they still be safe to put to grain? Or too risky and not worth the effort?



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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Tormato]
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Me personally if I have the space/tubs available I’d run them.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: xVadisx]
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xVadisx said:



A Dick Maketi Clone from a large fruit and a Giant Short Fat Maketi clone transfer from a…giant short and fat Maketi fruit.




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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: LadysKnight] * 1
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Eh. Nothing of note. Maybe cling residue or just an uncolonized spot. I sent it, lol.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: xVadisx] * 1
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What do you think of this plate? (As you can see, I already grabbed some transfers from the rhizo portion.)

Would you say that part with the concentric rings is tomentose mycelium, or mold?


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: SonomaFungi_707] * 2
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That’s cube myc and where I’d personally snag a transfer.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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First attempt at LC to Agar and I’m thinking it was a fail. One week later and no signs of germination or contamination. Mixed 10g of light malt and 10g agar with 500mL water. PC used and SAB with proper sterile technique. Used LC and flamed inoculation loop. Thought everything was going perfect, but a week later and still nothing! Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Tippy]
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:lol:

5 more to go:


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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Stipe-n Cap said:


:lol:

5 more to go:





Looks clean, I’d send it to grain :wink:

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Scrimshaw] * 1
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Second transfer

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: unablefrog] * 1
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First Mushie I’ve ever managed to grow, figured I’d throw him on a plate :smile:


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Explosive] * 2
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Explosive said:


First Mushie I’ve ever managed to grow, figured I’d throw him on a plate :smile:



Tighten up that clingwrap soldier.

I'm ready to sendy



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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Dkeppel]
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Dkeppel said:
You wouldn't transfer the dish with the bacterial infection?

As I say these are first transfers, assuming the other dishes are clean is it better to grow them out and then select the best fruit to clone from? Opposed to further isolating the mycelium?

That would make a lot of sense to me, I ask because I have read people saying they like to make two transfers before putting agar to grain, but I would of thought a wider diversity to select clones from would be a more desirable starting point.

CocaineBuffet said:
I would just let plates 1-4 grow out and leave the last 2 in your library in case they grow out with something you want to transfer once they fill out.

I would say it is too early for me personally to transfer from any of them given you have 4 plate candidates






You should not be making assumptions about the cleanliness of a plate by the amount of transfers. You can take 2 transfers of mold and it will still be mold.

You shared (what I think were multiple plates) and I suggested what you do with the plates that looked most promising. As far as diversity goes you don't know what kind of growth the plate would result in unless you go through the long term process of collecting a true isolation.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: CocaineBuffet]
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CocaineBuffet said:
Dkeppel said:
You wouldn't transfer the dish with the bacterial infection?

As I say these are first transfers, assuming the other dishes are clean is it better to grow them out and then select the best fruit to clone from? Opposed to further isolating the mycelium?

That would make a lot of sense to me, I ask because I have read people saying they like to make two transfers before putting agar to grain, but I would of thought a wider diversity to select clones from would be a more desirable starting point.

CocaineBuffet said:
I would just let plates 1-4 grow out and leave the last 2 in your library in case they grow out with something you want to transfer once they fill out.

I would say it is too early for me personally to transfer from any of them given you have 4 plate candidates






You should not be making assumptions about the cleanliness of a plate by the amount of transfers. You can take 2 transfers of mold and it will still be mold.

You shared (what I think were multiple plates) and I suggested what you do with the plates that looked most promising. As far as diversity goes you don't know what kind of growth the plate would result in unless you go through the long term process of collecting a true isolation.



Sorry I think my last post was poorly written, I would agree that not making assumptions of the cleanliness of the plate based off of the number of transfers is best practise, I have read such logic on these forums before and was questioning if it was necessary to always make 2 transfers, if the culture grown from the first transfer appeared clean.

What I meant by the comment regarding diversity was that by making transfers if they were not necessary due to contamination, I would be reducing the diversity of what fruit will be produced before knowing what the fruit the culture produces would be like, and it would be my assumption that if my intention is to isolate the best genetic I would first grow the cultures out, as diverse as possible and then select the best mushrooms to clone, before proceeding with further isolating.


I hope that makes sense, and I thank you for your input.

Edited by Dkeppel (04/19/24 02:49 AM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Dkeppel]
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Golden teachers on LMEA with nutritional yeast. Just over a week out from xfer.








Edited by Soloist (04/19/24 09:40 AM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Interesting. What would draw you to grab from that area with the concentric rings? Just because it looks rather uniform?

Not meaning to stir up the rhizo vs tomentose debate - just curious.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: SonomaFungi_707]
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SonomaFungi_707 said:
Interesting. What would draw you to grab from that area with the concentric rings? Just because it looks rather uniform?

Not meaning to stir up the rhizo vs tomentose debate - just curious.



It’s uniform, yes. It’s “resolved” mycelium. The rings are normal and you can see them on loads of plates.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Dkeppel]
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Dkeppel said:
CocaineBuffet said:
Dkeppel said:
You wouldn't transfer the dish with the bacterial infection?

As I say these are first transfers, assuming the other dishes are clean is it better to grow them out and then select the best fruit to clone from? Opposed to further isolating the mycelium?

That would make a lot of sense to me, I ask because I have read people saying they like to make two transfers before putting agar to grain, but I would of thought a wider diversity to select clones from would be a more desirable starting point.

CocaineBuffet said:
I would just let plates 1-4 grow out and leave the last 2 in your library in case they grow out with something you want to transfer once they fill out.

I would say it is too early for me personally to transfer from any of them given you have 4 plate candidates






You should not be making assumptions about the cleanliness of a plate by the amount of transfers. You can take 2 transfers of mold and it will still be mold.

You shared (what I think were multiple plates) and I suggested what you do with the plates that looked most promising. As far as diversity goes you don't know what kind of growth the plate would result in unless you go through the long term process of collecting a true isolation.



Sorry I think my last post was poorly written, I would agree that not making assumptions of the cleanliness of the plate based off of the number of transfers is best practise, I have read such logic on these forums before and was questioning if it was necessary to always make 2 transfers, if the culture grown from the first transfer appeared clean.

What I meant by the comment regarding diversity was that by making transfers if they were not necessary due to contamination, I would be reducing the diversity of what fruit will be produced before knowing what the fruit the culture produces would be like, and it would be my assumption that if my intention is to isolate the best genetic I would first grow the cultures out, as diverse as possible and then select the best mushrooms to clone, before proceeding with further isolating.


I hope that makes sense, and I thank you for your input.



1. In theory if the if the plate is clean it is clean. It is more about hedging your bets. It is up to you

2. There is no way to quantify diversity by sight and if you are not working with a TRUE isolation culture your grow will be as diverse as any other (especially if you are going from spores)

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