Home | Community | Message Board


Lil Shop Of Spores
Please support our sponsors.

General Interest >> Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Amazon Shop for: Jimi Hendrix

Jump to first unread post. Pages: 1
InvisibleKackleDude
transmundaneother

Registered: 06/11/02
Posts: 863
Loc: Close to the Edge, Down b...
There are absolutely no absolutes
    #2865232 - 07/07/04 04:03 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Absolutely. No Absolutes?


--------------------
yeeeahh, it's gonna be well wicked


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineTurd
Dr. Rock

Registered: 01/21/03
Posts: 1,909
Loc: Vulva, WA
Last seen: 8 years, 6 months
Re: There are absolutely no absolutes [Re: KackleDude]
    #2865237 - 07/07/04 04:04 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

last time I checked, the plastic in my keyboard was about as dead as it gets.

one might even say it was.... *raises eyebrow* absolutely not alive?


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleHuehuecoyotl
Stranger
Male User Gallery

Registered: 06/14/04
Posts: 10,329
Loc: On the Border
Re: There are absolutely no absolutes [Re: KackleDude]
    #2865532 - 07/07/04 05:15 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Absolutely not.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineJacquesCousteau
Being.
Male User Gallery

Registered: 06/10/03
Posts: 7,825
Loc: Everywhere, Everytime.
Last seen: 5 months, 30 days
Re: There are absolutely no absolutes [Re: Turd]
    #2865563 - 07/07/04 05:25 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

One might actually argue that the vibration of the particles (however subtle in a solid object) qualifies as "alive"...


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineTurd
Dr. Rock

Registered: 01/21/03
Posts: 1,909
Loc: Vulva, WA
Last seen: 8 years, 6 months
Re: There are absolutely no absolutes [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #2865572 - 07/07/04 05:27 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

one could, but one would be wrong, because everything in the universe has some degree of subatomic vibration. If "alive" included that vibration, then it would encompass everything in the universe and therefor be a useless term.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineJacquesCousteau
Being.
Male User Gallery

Registered: 06/10/03
Posts: 7,825
Loc: Everywhere, Everytime.
Last seen: 5 months, 30 days
Re: There are absolutely no absolutes [Re: Turd]
    #2865587 - 07/07/04 05:31 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

While the term may be rendered useless, perhaps everything in the universe IS alive.

Wait, is that an absolute? Shit..


Edited by JacquesCousteau (07/07/04 05:31 PM)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineTurd
Dr. Rock

Registered: 01/21/03
Posts: 1,909
Loc: Vulva, WA
Last seen: 8 years, 6 months
Re: There are absolutely no absolutes [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #2865605 - 07/07/04 05:36 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

therefor everything in the universe cannot be classified as alive, and my desk is uber dead, and I win

the end


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineJacquesCousteau
Being.
Male User Gallery

Registered: 06/10/03
Posts: 7,825
Loc: Everywhere, Everytime.
Last seen: 5 months, 30 days
Re: There are absolutely no absolutes [Re: Turd]
    #2865736 - 07/07/04 06:20 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Indeed... you win... :lol: :yesnod:


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleKackleDude
transmundaneother

Registered: 06/11/02
Posts: 863
Loc: Close to the Edge, Down b...
Re: There are absolutely no absolutes [Re: Turd]
    #2865810 - 07/07/04 06:33 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

or you could easily toss it to say you & I are absolutely alive. so much for the first absolute listed here


--------------------
yeeeahh, it's gonna be well wicked


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineTurd
Dr. Rock

Registered: 01/21/03
Posts: 1,909
Loc: Vulva, WA
Last seen: 8 years, 6 months
Re: There are absolutely no absolutes [Re: KackleDude]
    #2865820 - 07/07/04 06:35 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

well there are different degrees of alive, but dead is simply the absence of life, of which there is only one kind


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinefireworks_godS
Sexy.Butt.McDanger
Male

Registered: 03/12/02
Posts: 24,849
Loc: Pandurn
Last seen: 15 days, 7 hours
Re: There are absolutely no absolutes [Re: Turd]
    #2866176 - 07/07/04 08:08 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

So, then.. when is something alive, and when is it dead? What are the required characteristics of life? Are viruses alive? etc. etc. :grin:

I think you might have worded your message differently than you wished to. I absolutely am not a Chinese person right now. :wink:

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :satansmoking:
Peace. :mushroom2:


--------------------
:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you

:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineTurd
Dr. Rock

Registered: 01/21/03
Posts: 1,909
Loc: Vulva, WA
Last seen: 8 years, 6 months
Re: There are absolutely no absolutes [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2866218 - 07/07/04 08:17 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

my definition of life was handed down from god, and I promised not to tell anyone

however, I will tell you if a particular thing is alive or not

my desk, for example, is more alive than the plastic in my keyboard, because the components of the desk were alive more recently (wood), whereas the plastic in my keyboard was never alive, and the particles that make it up have not been part of a living entity for a very long time, if ever

hm
damn
disproved myself

I absolutely will not reply to this thread anymore

AHAHAHAAHAHAHA

I win.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleSwami
Eggshell Walker

Registered: 01/19/00
Posts: 15,413
Loc: In the hen house
Re: There are absolutely no absolutes [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2866251 - 07/07/04 08:26 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Are viruses alive?

Here is a recent discovery that further blurs the distinction between life and non-life:

Nanobacteria are 100-fold smaller than bacteria. Many viruses are bigger than them. They are present in some humans, animals and in environmental sources. They cannot be just tiny bacteria, since they are too small even to harbor classical ribosomes. Yet they are able to self-assemble into complicated biofilms and highly organized stones, where they are the smallest known self-replicative unit. In this sense they are living life-forms. Nanobacteria can also be cultivated in vitro and inactivated with many antibiotics. They resist many disinfectants, respiratory poisons and can endure extreme conditions of temperature and radiation. They are like a robotic device using nonliving survival principles or building materials. Nanoscopic calcium phosphate mineral, in crystal or amorphous form, are a major part of their 'cell-wall? that is able to perform biogenic mineralization. Their mineral binds many metal ions having catalytic functions and can co-crystallize with lipids as well. These unique characteristics indicate nanobacteria may have bio-medical and bio-industrial applications.


--------------------



The proof is in the pudding.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblechunder
marker

Registered: 08/11/02
Posts: 965
Loc: The City
Re: There are absolutely no absolutes [Re: Turd]
    #2866612 - 07/07/04 10:26 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

My keyboard contains living things --- namely the fungii growing off of all the shit and food thats lodged under the keys.


--------------------


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinepsikooz
Stranger
Registered: 07/19/03
Posts: 1,023
Loc: Los Angeles
Last seen: 5 years, 10 months
Re: There are absolutely no absolutes [Re: chunder]
    #2867136 - 07/08/04 12:42 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Jimi hendrix is alive now more than ever.

The general population of america is not living.

:crazy2:


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblepsyka
Praetorian
 User Gallery

Registered: 06/09/03
Posts: 1,652
Re: There are absolutely no absolutes [Re: KackleDude]
    #2867241 - 07/08/04 01:16 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

JacquesCousteau said:
One might actually argue that the vibration of the particles (however subtle in a solid object) qualifies as "alive"...





I agree with this :smile: I believe all matter in the Universe is expanding consciousness.

Absolutes absolutely do not exist in the eyes of the absolute...I believe all things are interconnected in one way or another, absolutely.


--------------------
As the life of a candle,
my wick will burn out.
But, the fire of my mind
shall beam into infinite.



Edited by psyka (07/08/04 01:30 AM)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineStrumpling
Neuronaut
Registered: 10/11/02
Posts: 7,571
Loc: Hyperspace
Last seen: 5 years, 6 months
Re: There are absolutely no absolutes [Re: KackleDude]
    #2878934 - 07/11/04 07:02 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

There are definitely no definites.

Nothing is something.

Never say never.

I know for sure that I don't know anything for sure.


--------------------
Insert an "I think" mentally in front of eveything I say that seems sketchy, because I certainly don't KNOW much. Also; feel free to yell at me.
In addition: SHPONGLE


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleKackleDude
transmundaneother

Registered: 06/11/02
Posts: 863
Loc: Close to the Edge, Down b...
Re: There are absolutely no absolutes [Re: Strumpling]
    #2884065 - 07/12/04 11:38 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Strumpling said:
There are definitely no definites.

Nothing is something.

Never say never.

I know for sure that I don't know anything for sure.




you oxymoron  :grin:


--------------------
yeeeahh, it's gonna be well wicked


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineZenGecko
enthusiast
Registered: 11/02/03
Posts: 285
Last seen: 3 years, 2 months
Re: There are absolutely no absolutes [Re: KackleDude]
    #2885098 - 07/13/04 08:31 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

The only thing that is certain is uncertainy.

I think statements like this illustrate our limited ability to grasp the full truth of reality/being. They are signs that point to truths we cant conceptualize or actualize fully and/or clearly. They seem to be true...but they also seem to be paradoxes, perhaps any real truth is at the center of what we because of our limited ability to comprehend reality as whole call "paradox". That infact the truth is something wholely alien to us.

Sincerely,
That which is, and has no choice but to be.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Jump to top. Pages: 1

Amazon Shop for: Jimi Hendrix

General Interest >> Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Absolute Truth Revistited (First Philosophy)
( 1 2 3 all )
shroomydan 2,911 44 05/01/05 01:29 AM
by Psychoactive1984
* Relative? or Absolute?
( 1 2 3 all )
trendalM 3,588 53 03/05/05 12:55 AM
by gettinjiggywithit
* Vibration, Om, the Cosmic Dream of God Relayer 2,115 19 07/15/07 05:23 PM
by Lion
* Do you believe in "Absolutes"?
( 1 2 all )
MOTH 1,469 22 03/27/04 05:32 PM
by Hahzist
* Vibration MellowMood 891 12 05/29/06 03:42 AM
by niteowl
* Vibration, called life! Gomp 1,528 17 12/05/06 03:51 AM
by slaphappy
* can you prove the existence of absolute, objective morality?
( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 all )
Anonymous 12,139 157 12/21/04 08:31 AM
by deafpanda
* absolute truth fearfect 1,022 17 11/12/05 01:04 AM
by Amber_Glow

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Middleman, CosmicJoke, Diploid, DividedQuantum
488 topic views. 2 members, 5 guests and 12 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Toggle Favorite | Print Topic | Stats ]
Search this thread:
SoulSpeciosa Kratom
Please support our sponsors.

Copyright 1997-2016 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.058 seconds spending 0.004 seconds on 14 queries.