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Enjoil



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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: mandrax360] 10
#28547989 - 11/18/23 02:22 PM (2 months, 8 days ago) |
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A little bit of cyan’s popped up. Here’s a picture. Hopefully I’ll get some soon that are more mature and wavy!
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Enjoil] 2
#28548244 - 11/18/23 05:35 PM (2 months, 8 days ago) |
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Enjoil said: Hopefully I’ll get some soon that are more mature and wavy!
why not let those mature?
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: evlyshrooms] 1
#28548601 - 11/18/23 10:51 PM (2 months, 8 days ago) |
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mr Piggy] 18
#28548693 - 11/19/23 03:01 AM (2 months, 8 days ago) |
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Subaeruginosa

Probably also Subaeruginosa

Some very lonely Azurescens

Cyanescens in a little container right by our front door, that nobody ever notices

Some more Cyanescens pins in the garden patch

Only in recent days did we have the first really cold nights. That's probably the main reason why there are so few Azurescens fruits this year.
It's not over until the fat lady sings though. It amazes me how many months on end Cyanescens mycelium can keep on fruiting.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Tweeq] 1
#28548705 - 11/19/23 03:16 AM (2 months, 8 days ago) |
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Amazing as always Tweeq, thanks to be a source of inspiration for me
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Nice work Enjoi & Tweeq. I kind of like them small before spores get every where. Might have been put up against some bad weather. The cold and dry can kind of stunt them into half aborting where the cap turns black but the stipe keeps growing some... ovoids will do that at least.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Ps.NoName] 11
#28549030 - 11/19/23 10:34 AM (2 months, 7 days ago) |
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wavy caps in habitat
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Asante]
#28549187 - 11/19/23 01:31 PM (2 months, 7 days ago) |
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Beautiful Asante! This thread is F’n AWESOME!
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: TheDuder] 6
#28549690 - 11/19/23 10:37 PM (2 months, 7 days ago) |
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So I took a little nibble of the P.smithii 'stones.' and there is no way I'm choking those back fresh, the taste was horrendous and bitter. Drying them now and will take it in capsules later this week. Just a little bit made my tongue go instantly numb.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: thirdeyewild]
#28549726 - 11/19/23 11:33 PM (2 months, 7 days ago) |
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thirdeyewild said: So I took a little nibble of the P.smithii 'stones.' and there is no way I'm choking those back fresh, the taste was horrendous and bitter. Drying them now and will take it in capsules later this week. Just a little bit made my tongue go instantly numb.
Have you thought of doing a miraculix psilocybin test? I haven't ordered yet myself but this looks pretty interesting.
https://www.miraculix-lab.de/en/
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: thirdeyewild]
#28549741 - 11/20/23 12:08 AM (2 months, 7 days ago) |
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thirdeyewild said: So I took a little nibble of the P.smithii 'stones.' and there is no way I'm choking those back fresh, the taste was horrendous and bitter. Drying them now and will take it in capsules later this week. Just a little bit made my tongue go instantly numb.
I have only eaten a fruit or two at a time and they have a very distinct flavor. But I couldn’t say it was bad. I’m anxious to hear how your experience goes.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Land Trout] 1
#28550021 - 11/20/23 09:39 AM (2 months, 6 days ago) |
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The 22 grams dried to 4.5. So about 80% water.
@wavyedge might look into that sometime down the road.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: thirdeyewild]
#28550365 - 11/20/23 01:56 PM (2 months, 6 days ago) |
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I want to ask ppl on the thread that now what I will ask... Some time ago someone on shrooomery told me that p.cyanescens, p.allenii and p.azurescens are actualy Psilocybe subaeruginosa subtype and are all the same mushroom is that true? Can someone explain?
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: BU4O] 4
#28550426 - 11/20/23 02:54 PM (2 months, 6 days ago) |
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My understanding is that an Australian researcher, Alistair McTaggart, has been sequencing subaeruginosa and comparing it to cyanescens and azurescens. His findings seem to suggest that they nestle into the sub genome enough that they aren't separate species, but I'm sure someone else might have a more nuanced understanding of it.
https://alistairmctaggart.weebly.com/magicmushrooms/intraspecific-variation-in-the-its-region-of-subs
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Fungus Gnat]
#28550449 - 11/20/23 03:10 PM (2 months, 6 days ago) |
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kingev said: My understanding is that an Australian researcher, Alistair McTaggart, has been sequencing subaeruginosa and comparing it to cyanescens and azurescens. His findings seem to suggest that they nestle into the sub genome enough that they aren't separate species, but I'm sure someone else might have a more nuanced understanding of it.
https://alistairmctaggart.weebly.com/magicmushrooms/intraspecific-variation-in-the-its-region-of-subs
Thanks for the reference link, that's really helpful!
So does this mean they could, potentially, be crossbred as monokaryons?
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: wavyedge]
#28550528 - 11/20/23 04:29 PM (2 months, 6 days ago) |
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Unless I am mistaken I think Land Trout is trying to do something like that. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28542039#28542039
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: TheDuder] 7
#28550665 - 11/20/23 06:23 PM (2 months, 6 days ago) |
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I've been harvesting about this much every other day or so, pretty happy with that!

I've been adding the stem butts to the new big bed after harvesting.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: BU4O] 8
#28550788 - 11/20/23 08:03 PM (2 months, 6 days ago) |
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BU4O said: I want to ask ppl on the thread that now what I will ask... Some time ago someone on shrooomery told me that p.cyanescens, p.allenii and p.azurescens are actualy Psilocybe subaeruginosa subtype and are all the same mushroom is that true? Can someone explain?

This video gives a pretty good explanation. Cyanescens, azurescens, allenii, and weraroa are all distinct, and from what I can tell can be told apart by ITS region(I know very little about genetics) and macroscopically, but not microscopically. maybe that’s not enough to say they are different species🤷🏻, if it is than subaeruginosa would likely have to be split up into many more species. I think we can all agree that they at least share a very close common ancestor. The subsectiods has clear features that could separate it from cyanescens, but I believe the ITS is identical and has never been agreed on as a separate species. Look at the huge variety of cubes, shitake, and oysters. You’ve got cubes of many different shapes and colors, different color and size spores yet no one would consider breaking penis envy, golden teacher, and red boy into different species. Anyone who’s grown cubes for any amount of time can tell your genetics apart from Petri dish to harvest. I’m pretty sure the ITS of pelliculosa and firmentaria are identical, but they are clearly different species that do very different things, so ITS alone may not be the best tool to differentiate between some fungi. I don’t know, if I made a false statement I would like to know. I think some of the important things to look at with cyanescens azurescens and allenii is that their habitat in the north is almost always altered, such as woodchip beds, gardens, and non native dune grass. It’s really neat to wonder how these things got to and from where they end up.
This video is probably the best explanation of how these things could have got from the southern hemisphere to the north.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Land Trout] 1
#28550797 - 11/20/23 08:16 PM (2 months, 6 days ago) |
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 Of course it was the swallows.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: evlyshrooms]
#28550811 - 11/20/23 08:33 PM (2 months, 6 days ago) |
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This was just a couple clusters and some were turning blue from the cold. We have a warm week and a few more clusters are maturing. These things grow like crazy once you get em going. I’m not in the PNW, I’m in the mid-west… and the weather is nutty
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