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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: ghiajake] * 9
    #28580699 - 12/13/23 01:55 AM (1 month, 14 days ago)



Yeah, or you can be real lazy and keep dividing pots into new pots.

Azzies coming up at 1400' in Zigzag Oregon


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
    #28580950 - 12/13/23 07:57 AM (1 month, 14 days ago)

Will you link your ingredients for your lme plates. Something is definitely not right here. Shouldn’t be stalling


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
    #28581078 - 12/13/23 10:30 AM (1 month, 14 days ago)

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Yeah, or you can be real lazy and keep dividing pots into new pots.

Azzies coming up at 1400' in Zigzag Oregon




Lazy Tek for the win again!


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: SupaThaRipper]
    #28581082 - 12/13/23 10:32 AM (1 month, 14 days ago)

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Will you link your ingredients for your lme plates. Something is definitely not right here. Shouldn’t be stalling





Is your cat a reincarnated Vietnam vet? Looks like he's seen some shit! :minigun:


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: ghiajake]
    #28581091 - 12/13/23 10:40 AM (1 month, 14 days ago)

The one in my sig? Yeah she’s fucking crazy that’s for sure 😂


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: SupaThaRipper] * 8
    #28581813 - 12/13/23 07:48 PM (1 month, 14 days ago)

Small giveaway of Ps. Azurescens to give back.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28581809


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: JW123] * 1
    #28581967 - 12/13/23 10:23 PM (1 month, 14 days ago)

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Small giveaway of Ps. Azurescens to give back.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28581809




Thanks again for posting the link here. My Azzie culture hasn't produced since I spawned my beds early last year, and one of the beds died completely so it's in need of some "microscopy use only". :wink:


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: ghiajake] * 5
    #28582039 - 12/14/23 12:15 AM (1 month, 13 days ago)


Liquid cultures made with this kind of cut out of germ plates from these prints are looking good.

I’ve got 35 quarts of grain from the plates that are cruising right along too.

This is going to be a lot of fun! Just the wait to see what come out the other end.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: SingularFusion] * 5
    #28582042 - 12/14/23 12:24 AM (1 month, 13 days ago)

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Since the season is almost over, when do you "feed" your patches? Being my bed is about 5-6 inches deep do I wait a year to feed or do I throw a bit on top, maybe another inch of chips? I'm also thinking about covering the chip bed with soil and planting grass on top. It's that a good idea or no?





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From my observations here Bigworm, it does not matter when chips are added, except for obviously that is not desired right before fruiting or delays or non-fruiting may happen

The conventional wisdom says to feed them in spring, but I also felt like I should cover them with something to protect them from winter before, so some of my beds got wood right as the season finished and snow and freeze hit. All fruited the next season without incident. So I am not sure if it matters honestly, but if the guys with years of WL experience say to do that in spring then it may be worth listening

The soil with grass is my go to method, I do it pretty much like a thick casing layer. The cheap 3 dollar a bag potting soil that is made from composted forest products and a wood fibre peat replacement. You can see little flecks of wood in it. They fucking love this material. The casing layer from the last year then is lost the next season as I start layering the wood and soil right on top, I give zero shits about the grass, as does the myc. It all gets swallowed up as a I build it up with layers over the early part of the season and then put the same casing on again on top, planted with fresh grass seed. I am just using dirt cheap lawn seed, but there may be grasses with a taller and leaner character that are better suited to this, I am still playing with different cover materials

I still have much to learn and have nailed cyans but the rest of the clade has been more of a challenge for me here, but above has been my experience of things so far. Some pics in my gallery. Hope that managed to be helpful to you anyway mate

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I figured it would be best to reply to both of y'all at the same time for efficiency's sake. But first I want to compliment SingularFusion. I don't get on the site often, but it's great to see the new generation listening, learning, and actively engaging with "younger" members of the group. I'm sure the other old guys appreciate not having to answer every question we've answered a million times before.

I do have a slightly different approach than some of the other elders here because all of my beds are actually landscaped beds around my home. Meaning I prefer my beds to have a clean woodchip surface for aesthetic purposes.

Where I live in Indiana, I never get fruits before the vast majority of leaves have fallen. Our temps here usually stay above fruiting temps late, then plummet quickly below freezing shortly after. So over the years I've gotten in the habit of raking my leaves onto the beds to insulate them and extend the season long enough to get a flush. I'll leave the leaves until I see fruits, then clear the leaves with a leaf blower to harvest. I then cover then again after harvesting and hope I get a second flush (usually don't). Either way I leave the leaves on the bed throughout the winter.

Now here is where we get into my "experiments" with feeding the beds. I've had successes and failures, and have eventually come to a consensus. Whenever you decide to recharge your beds, keep in mind that unless you're temps stay below freezing all winter, they WILL continue to colonize. The years that I cleared the leaves in the spring to put new chips on there was always myc colonizing the leaves.

One of the main reasons I cultivate WL's isn't actually for the fruits. They are a great primary decomposer for building soil, even rivaling the King Stropharia. Because of this I would feed the beds differently than the other guys so I could scrape out the soil once the myc had eaten it all, add that to my gardening projects, then re-spawning the beds with cloned culture (my allenii bed) or a new culture of some other species to try if the bed failed.

Because I planned to scrape the soil up from the beds, I never planted plants in the beds until last year. Now that I don't garden as much as I use to, I've finally decided to listen to the other guys about WL's liking a bit of soil on top. So I've decide this year to just leave the leaves on top of the beds until they fully breakdown into soil, then top the bed with new chips in early spring of 2025.

Your feeding schedule really kind of depends on how you construct your bed in the first place. The way I built mine for years was 3 inches thick of course hardwood saw chips from the local saw mill. Those chips took 3-4 years to fully break down, and would always flush best the second season. On a side note, I recently realized that I've unintentionally been in the habit of respawning my allenii bed evry 4 years on the year before an El Nino weather pattern, which apparently are the best years for our weather in regards to fungi.

But I digress... If you use finer shredded mulch it breaks down faster even if you use the same thickness of substrate. So basically my long ass post boils down to this... If you used a finer mulch, then just feed it with a few inches of leaves over the first winter. If this is your second winter, then give it some new mulch any time between now and
the spring thaw to give the myc a bit of a head start. If you used a thick layer of chunky hardwood chips when you built the bed, then don't feed it anything the first winter and just leaves for the next 2 winters. You can definitely feed an established bed in the middle of the winter, you just don't want to build a new bed before the spring.

Sorry for the long post. In my defense I just made up a big batch of dry-sift hash a couple days ago and have been high AF since.

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: ghiajake] * 5
    #28582648 - 12/14/23 01:51 PM (1 month, 13 days ago)

I think I’m gonna try to dunk these and see what happens. They’re not doing much else.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: ghiajake]
    #28582860 - 12/14/23 05:12 PM (1 month, 13 days ago)

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The new woodlover from India..

If all goes well I'm also getting a print from that. Or at least 'some undescribed woodlover' from India.
These are pics of them:



Also, I have germination from spores of another woodlover, this time from Indianapolis, US. Think its new name is now: Psilocybe caeruleorhiza nom. prov.




Do we know the fruiting temps and native substrates of the Indian WL? And I'm gonna need a print of that Indianapolis WL from someone... Maybe I should just drive 60 miles and find some... :awesomenod:





Hey Tweeq, did you ever get that WL from Indianapolis going?


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: ghiajake] * 1
    #28582884 - 12/14/23 05:21 PM (1 month, 13 days ago)

Look at that big ass millipede!!!


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: the_chosen_one] * 2
    #28582925 - 12/14/23 05:40 PM (1 month, 13 days ago)



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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: wavyedge]
    #28582940 - 12/14/23 05:52 PM (1 month, 13 days ago)

What? Does it think it's Absolem or something?

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: ghiajake]
    #28583377 - 12/15/23 01:55 AM (1 month, 12 days ago)

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ghiajake said:
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Tweeq said:
The new woodlover from India..

If all goes well I'm also getting a print from that. Or at least 'some undescribed woodlover' from India.
These are pics of them:



Also, I have germination from spores of another woodlover, this time from Indianapolis, US. Think its new name is now: Psilocybe caeruleorhiza nom. prov.




Do we know the fruiting temps and native substrates of the Indian WL? And I'm gonna need a print of that Indianapolis WL from someone... Maybe I should just drive 60 miles and find some... :awesomenod:





Hey Tweeq, did you ever get that WL from Indianapolis going?





Hi Jake,

No, unfortunately. Good that you mention it. I had so much stuff going on last year that I kinda forgot about the one from Indianapolis. The one from India, I got to fruit though.
So confusing.. Lol


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Tweeq]
    #28583638 - 12/15/23 08:43 AM (1 month, 12 days ago)

Are woodlovers supposed to be slow on agar? I got cyans on 1.5% MEA and it feels like its taking forever and a day.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
    #28583645 - 12/15/23 08:50 AM (1 month, 12 days ago)

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Are woodlovers supposed to be slow on agar? I got cyans on 1.5% MEA and it feels like its taking forever and a day.




Ime Cyanescens mycelium should move at a speed similar to cube myc, not much slower if any.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Tweeq]
    #28583669 - 12/15/23 09:26 AM (1 month, 12 days ago)

Curious. Cant figure out why its so slow. The germ plate was clean


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: AspectOfTheCreator] * 5
    #28584102 - 12/15/23 03:31 PM (1 month, 12 days ago)

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Curious. Cant figure out why its so slow. The germ plate was clean



Make you a liquid culture once you got some good growth! Cyans are my favorites!


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Enjoil]
    #28584107 - 12/15/23 03:34 PM (1 month, 12 days ago)

Yea Ive been making moves to get into LC but I dont have the confidence yet. I have a kind of time limit dont I? This stuff needs to be spawned around February, dont it? Im in NY


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