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Land Trout
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: wavyedge]
#28564921 - 12/02/23 08:26 AM (1 month, 25 days ago) |
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Ok, so you took old prints of various mushrooms to water and then poured that on some chips outside, they started colonizing, then You take some of that colony and jar it. Is that pretty much it?
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rhizoRider
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Land Trout] 2
#28564960 - 12/02/23 08:48 AM (1 month, 25 days ago) |
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yes I know it's relatively unorthodox lol 😆 it took me 2yrs to get it tough and see it all start pinning aggressive in jars. I had some pests at start and my dog and animals would kick it up in yard. I finally brought in some blue bruising sticks and jar them to start. That never took off until many months later it had worms and pests but pins. Then I hand washed the pins and select mycelium covered sticks and put in new jars with rotten chips. I learned from watching you all here and I just go extra lazy and I always want a cold hearty example and aggressive ones where I live in far north central states
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AspectOfTheCreator
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: rhizoRider]
#28565067 - 12/02/23 10:33 AM (1 month, 25 days ago) |
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Just got a Psilocybe Cyan print from a generous member here. Can anyone point me to a good tek for growing these outside? Are all woodlovers grown outdoors in the same manner?
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barnhouse
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Check the links in Land Trout’s sig at the top of this page, particularly “Tweeq’s woodlover grow”.
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Mr Piggy
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AspectOfTheCreator said: Are all woodlovers grown outdoors in the same manner?
pretty much, with a few variations.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mr Piggy]
#28565627 - 12/02/23 05:41 PM (1 month, 25 days ago) |
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So is it necessary to put sawdust in the spawn jar? Or are grains alone good enough?
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You’ll have to introduce wood at some point. I don’t believe they will fruit with grains alone.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: barnhouse]
#28565645 - 12/02/23 05:50 PM (1 month, 25 days ago) |
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Some like fresh chips and ovoid seem to like rotten chips best 👌
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: barnhouse]
#28565647 - 12/02/23 05:52 PM (1 month, 25 days ago) |
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Yea i thought you were supposed to spawn to woodchips rather than coir, but i cant find a concrete answer on whether wood should be part of the spawn.
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Depends on how you view it. I spawn grain to wood indoors in small buckets or containers. Then use that as spawn outside. Others take grain directly to wood outdoors which is troublesome for me. Too many rodents and pests. Anyways I'm sure you could add something like wood fuel pellets. My only concern would be keeping things shakeable.
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AspectOfTheCreator
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The wood needs to be PCed as well then, no? Some threads I see people mentioning sterilization of the woodchips. Other threads dont mention it.
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Wood chips are a very selective substrate, and if you do see contamination, mycelium of Ps cyanescens and relatives are very robust and will often win the battle. I've seen some people note that lower temps (8-15c) help even more for the wood lovers to colonize.
I think sterilizing would remove the chance of getting a slime would, so there's that. Sterilizing chips may be more of a guarantee. I'm still waiting on grain spawn to run more experiments with cherry and maple chips with some in this family.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: TheDuder]
#28565763 - 12/02/23 07:10 PM (1 month, 25 days ago) |
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Anyone ever use flake pine shavings? They look like they’re gonna perform really nicely with supplemented hwfp (wheat bran) for my reishi grow. Marketed as animal bedding sold in bulk by tractor supply. If they do nicely I think I should have enough to last me a solid while.
As an experiment I am using fc sawdust (hydrated hwfp, same thing) with coir and these pine flakes as bulk sub (unsupplemented) in unmodded 66qt totes. (I might use one of my prefab ezdials and tape to dial instead.)
Anyone have any tales using coir with reishi? I assume it will do its thing on coir, chips, straw, newspaper… I know I need to increase my spawn ratio somewhat for running unsupplemented subs. What ratio do you guys recommend for supp/non-supp.?
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If my spawn is going to be outside, I do not sterilize it
If it will be indoors, I do. I have gotten contamination on chips before indoors
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: scapo] 1
#28565842 - 12/02/23 07:51 PM (1 month, 25 days ago) |
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I microwave everything when it comes to indoor substrates.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: fiddle_head] 1
#28565968 - 12/02/23 09:20 PM (1 month, 25 days ago) |
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Tweeq
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Quote:
AspectOfTheCreator said: Yea i thought you were supposed to spawn to woodchips rather than coir, but i cant find a concrete answer on whether wood should be part of the spawn.
I have been using normal grain spawn, with no additions, for all woodlovers. I like to spawn wl grains to sterilized wood chips initially (for expansion from wood 2 wood pasteurized or just soaked chips will do as the mycelium is well established on wood at this stage and is pretty much contam resistant from there on.
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AspectOfTheCreator
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Tweeq]
#28566300 - 12/03/23 06:43 AM (1 month, 24 days ago) |
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Awesome. Ty
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Mr Piggy
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I have never put wood of any kind in my woodlover spawn, just WBS. I spawn directly to chips outside and have not had issues.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mr Piggy]
#28566717 - 12/03/23 12:32 PM (1 month, 24 days ago) |
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Mr Piggy said: I have never put wood of any kind in my woodlover spawn, just WBS. I spawn directly to chips outside and have not had issues.
Thanks so much. As thats the easiest, simplest way of doing things I was hoping this was the case. Do the woodchips need to be prepared in any way? Pasteurized? Soaked? PCed?
Planning on doing the same. Agar to wbs to outdoor woodchips.
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