ShroomNugget said:

With my shoeboxes I keep the lids closed until the top colonizes and then crack them. With the mono I varied slightly - with the slightly modified version, and I was testing misting the top layer heavily every day and then letting it evaporate, before the top colonized. The top has now colonized really well, but ugh side pins eating up nutrition!!!!

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RoscoeReturns said:

ShroomNugget said:

milkboy said:

You didnt come off as rude. Just an asshole. If you really don't think its your spawn go back to spore. A clean culture will do all the work for you if you can adhere to the most basic cult guidelines

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Yeah, I'm sorry about coming out hitting like that...Especially to Roscoe. However, I strongly believe it's not contam and is caused by a change in the setup. The same culture in a 6q shoebox netted me 550g first flush - now tell me that's contaminated!

I always clean my shit on agar and if anything, probably transfer more than necessary. Right now I'm on 3x and 4x from a clone..... Because people here have made me so damn paranoid about contam I've become extreme. So now when people call out contam I want to choke them out because I have to explain all this over again, lol.

Edit: Maybe I've learned what I can here and just need to figure shit out on my own with my specific setup? Maybe this is why it's hard to find the niche help I'm seeking and I keep getting frustrated with more general answers. I feel like someone would need to see my shit in person for me to disprove the contam theory.

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Or just post pics of your current tub that’s causing all the fuss, and the spawn you used in it.

I get that it’s frustrating. Growing some mushrooms that one time is soooo easy. Growing a lot of mushrooms every time is really fucking hard. A lot of people come on here after watching youtube and expect to grow pounds right out the gate. That’s not how it works. The first year I grew, I had a bunch of failures, I had a bunch of successes. I couldn’t tell you why each grow was one or the other. I thought all my agar looked clean. All my grain was prepped well. All my spawn was top notch. Except it wasn’t. As I kept growing things kept getting better. I could look at a jar and go, ”Shit! So that’s what clean myc is!” What I thought was good could be so much better. I had no experience, no frame of reference, and as good as the Shroomery is, and looking at pictures is, it’s not real experience. Keep growing. Be humble. Accept failure really can be your fault. You’ll get it eventually.

I understand your frustration, but coming out at people trying to help like you do will not win you many friends. I blocked you after that last outburst, because what the fuck am I doing wasting my time with all these people, not just you but many people, day after day that think their shit is tight, but can’t grow, asking for help just to shit all over us who give of our time and experience for free. Talk about frustrating. Yeah, you’re frustrated. So am I.

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tryptkaloids said:

Proposition 122 said:

tryptkaloids said:

I find a magic bullet to be the perfect fit in between a coffee grinder and a full blender. No need to do things twice

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Isn't a Magic Bullet just a small blender?

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Yes. The difference is there less space between the blades and base giving you a finer grind

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I knew there was a reason. Thanks

RoscoeReturns said:

ShroomNugget said:

milkboy said:

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Soooo... @ShroomNugget.
I dont know where to start... In another life I would say "lets go have a beer and talk about this." But I dont drink anymore.

I am seldom the voice of reason. You may have seen me go off recently about the same thing. "Tell me why you say go back to spore?" "Tell me what you see when you say its bacterial?"

I  thank Rumfor69, Bigworm, Adas, MyColorado, Baba Yaga - to mension a few - who gave me the one extra answer... That said, the answer would have been useless if I didn't suspend my noobish attachment to "All the work I put into getting this agar/spawn/tub to this point."

If you are convinced that your agar is good... Look to your spawn
If you believe your spawn is good... Look to your bulk
If your bulk is good... You get the idea

I am not trying to be condescending when I say you are a smart person, else you wouldnt have made it this far. When you get to thiss level of frustration and butthurt... Assume for a moment that you missed something, even several things.

If you are truely convinced that you have done everything right, then put the agar to spawn... Put the spawn to bulk... Move to pinning conditions and live your truth. You will either fail or succeed. Hopefully succeed and as Roscoe said, become aware that some of your information has been improved by directly experience.

May you be well
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Kunta Kente said:

(and yeah, rip. I had so wanted to see them live but they literally never toured in a full 15 years in Texas, or at least none I heard about. Here's to the reunion tour in a decade )

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I was waiting for Alive 2017. Lets hope they comeback for 2027 or sooner

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RoscoeReturns said:Or just post pics of your current tub that’s causing all the fuss, and the spawn you used in it.

I get that it’s frustrating. Growing some mushrooms that one time is soooo easy. Growing a lot of mushrooms every time is really fucking hard. A lot of people come on here after watching youtube and expect to grow pounds right out the gate. That’s not how it works. The first year I grew, I had a bunch of failures, I had a bunch of successes. I couldn’t tell you why each grow was one or the other. I thought all my agar looked clean. All my grain was prepped well. All my spawn was top notch. Except it wasn’t. As I kept growing things kept getting better. I could look at a jar and go, ”Shit! So that’s what clean myc is!” What I thought was good could be so much better. I had no experience, no frame of reference, and as good as the Shroomery is, and looking at pictures is, it’s not real experience. Keep growing. Be humble. Accept failure really can be your fault. You’ll get it eventually.

I understand your frustration, but coming out at people trying to help like you do will not win you many friends. I blocked you after that last outburst, because what the fuck am I doing wasting my time with all these people, not just you but many people, day after day that think their shit is tight, but can’t grow, asking for help just to shit all over us who give of our time and experience for free. Talk about frustrating. Yeah, you’re frustrated. So am I.

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Thanks for the response, and sorry again for coming out swinging the way I did man! I did post pictures back in my assholey response. I couldn't get an overall of the top of the tub as I took 5 different pictures and shroomery kept telling me the image was too large. I don't take pictures of my spawn prior to spawning in a tub so I can't provide anything there. It was a 4 lbs bag of oats and looked good to me. No off color, no liquids, no spikey myc, looked nice and fuzzy and it broke apart easily. The sub looks great IMO.





I'm just going to handle this tub as it is, get my flushes, and move on to the next. IME black liners worked great for shoeboxes and I think that would make a major difference for my monos moving forward, and doubling up on them. Yea yea some people will say thats not why, but IME, it definitely helps so thats what ill try. If I get the same results from that, then I know it's something else. Next step will be switching to another tub that unmodified, and I can take it from there.

Huskies said:

Gonna boil some oats cause I need grain water for future agar.

Does adding any instant coffee to the boil water help the mycelium or the agar, or is it actually just detrimental?

Also, is any food coloring in agar considered a bad move nowadays? I would like a bit more contrast but not at the cost of growth

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Huskies said:

Gonna boil some oats cause I need grain water for future agar.

Does adding any instant coffee to the boil water help the mycelium or the agar, or is it actually just detrimental?

Also, is any food coloring in agar considered a bad move nowadays? I would like a bit more contrast but not at the cost of growth

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Coffee was never bunked to begin with. Oyster mushrooms will eat the stuff up but even that's a moldy mess most of the time. A few drops of pure vanilla extract makes a nice additive to LC and agar if you are looking for something along those lines, but yeah, coffee is for the palm trees in your life.

SwabMarley said:

If you’re looking for contrast maybe like a pinch of activated charcoal. I’ve used it in the past and you get a real nice contrast with the white myc.

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