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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme]
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I weigh it. I buy the 11lb bricks for growing cannabis(70/30 coco/perlite dtw hydro) I chip off what I need into the bucket on a scale. I got the recipe from on of the TC teks a couple years ago. It's still one of the listed ones on the Getting started sticky.

The CVG recipe is:
1 Brick (650grams) coco coir
2 quarts fine-medium vermiculite
1 cup(2 big handfuls) garden or horticulture gypsum
4-4.5 quarts water

I just got back into it afdter a year off. And I've seen several things have changed in just that year. I'll look for another recipe. You said pasty has one in his ez dial thread? I'll go re-read that one too.


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Edited by JXAllen (10/03/23 03:15 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: JXAllen] * 2
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I stick with Bod's simple tek for coir.
650  - 800g of coir and 3x the water.
So 2.4L give or take of water.

I do this using cold water now, quick and simple and always comes out perfect.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD]
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Just coco and 3x water. Easy enough. I'll do that next time.


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Edited by JXAllen (10/03/23 04:33 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: JXAllen]
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I make coir in a large pot on the stove. I find heating it up helps breaking it down and colonize faster. I don't have an (insulated) bucket and I don't really need one.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tiamo]
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Not that I want to debate with bod but I don't see much value in heating the water for coir anymore.

Using room temperature filtered water means I can use the coir in under an hour vs waiting hours for the coir to cool.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD]
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Yea, it'll work. It has been proven. Do what you prefer and makes you sleep at night. :lol:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tiamo]
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yeah I should have stated: I live in an obscenely dry climate and bods recipe was always hard for me. Me and a couple other members that are local here found this 4.6 factor to be *chef kiss*

I think everything has to be taken with a grain of salt and ultimately you have to try things and find what works for you.  for me the recipe changes with the seasons. During the summer and particularly when I'm running the air conditioner nonstop, I need more water.


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Edited by BeefExtreme (10/03/23 09:47 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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How would I go about getting decent genetics from a spore? I will get 3 spore prints from FSE in a few days and thinking of going
Print >> MSS (my own) >> Grain >> Agar >> Grain
I think it'd be more useful to see actual growth on coir instead of agar in order to isolate a decent colony. How would you go about mss to grain to agar to grain?? Thanks

Edited by funguy1 (10/03/23 10:36 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: funguy1] * 3
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I wouldn’t. I go to agar first. Spore to grain has a very high failure rate.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: funguy1]
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funguy1 said:
How would I go about getting decent genetics from a spore?
How would you go about mss to grain to agar to grain?? Thanks


You’re going to have to spawn and fruit the spores from your print to asses its genetics.

Pick the fruit(s) you like after the first flush and collect their spores/tissue for subsequent generations.
Let those samples colonize on agar and conduct transfers until satisfied.

Dont inoculate your grains with spores and don’t further hinder yourself by trying to use those grains for agar transfers.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Oh fair enough, while I wait for a few more opinions on the matter, May I ask what your lid setup is? I got a dozen quart jars that aren't the mason ones. How would you do the lids, would u modify them at all? Tysm

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: funguy1] * 2
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I would cut a quarter inch hole in it and put a full sfd under it. Boom best lid you'll ever make.

You can go ms to grain, but why mess around with spore solution if you have a print and agar? Using a print is way easier than making and using mss


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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Im thinking about lining my tubs with 2 layers of plastic liner painters use to cover the floor. Clear plastic.

Then how would I soak for a second flush, fill tub with water and weigh it down with another container+weight. Then dump the water after 24 hours?

Edited by huey.bluey (10/03/23 11:26 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: funguy1]
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funguy1 said:
Oh fair enough, while I wait for a few more opinions on the matter, May I ask what your lid setup is? I got a dozen quart jars that aren't the mason ones. How would you do the lids, would u modify them at all? Tysm


i personally love these lids JHOVA put me onto.  1/4" hole. I take an sfd and cut them into like ten little disks. i adhere them with jbweld rtv high temp silicon.  ive never had one come off or anything.

the lids dont stick and come off easy.  Theyre easier to maneuver than two-peice lids when innoculating with agar too. the gasket doesnt fall out. the sfd's are hydrophobic but i still foil them.  Ive been very hapy with them.  You could easily install ships if you wanted to use Lc or grain culture water.  plus they come in a rainbow of colors in a pack so you can color code your spawn.





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Edited by BeefExtreme (10/03/23 11:43 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme]
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After you pour your agar plates do you let them sit in front of the flowhood for some time with the flowhood running to get rid of condensation? Or just bag them in ziplocks after they have cooled down?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: dr.snuggles]
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dr.snuggles said:
After you pour your agar plates do you let them sit in front of the flowhood for some time with the flowhood running to get rid of condensation? Or just bag them in ziplocks after they have cooled down?


CLINGWRAP them haha.  ziplocks are ok too i suppose.  i dont have a flow so i just let them cool overnight.  condensation doesn't hurt anything, in fact, I think it helps my long-term storage plates not bruise.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
dr.snuggles said:
After you pour your agar plates do you let them sit in front of the flowhood for some time with the flowhood running to get rid of condensation? Or just bag them in ziplocks after they have cooled down?


CLINGWRAP them haha.  ziplocks are ok too i suppose.  i dont have a flow so i just let them cool overnight.  condensation doesn't hurt anything, in fact, I think it helps my long-term storage plates not bruise.


I have usually kept them on ziplock until i have something growing on them, after that i have clingwrapped them. Maybe i´ll let them sit in front of the flow until cooled down and bag them regardless if they have condensation or not.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: huey.bluey]
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huey.bluey said:
Im thinking about lining my tubs with 2 layers of plastic liner painters use to cover the floor. Clear plastic.

Then how would I soak for a second flush, fill tub with water and weigh it down with another container+weight. Then dump the water after 24 hours?


A single layer of thin plastic is the way to go. It needs to adhere to the sub to prevent evaporation and thus pinning on the sides and bottom. Thicker plastic is less flexible and might not adhere to the sub as well. A second layer serves no purpose.

Yes, soak by filling and pressing down with another tub + weight. Filling the 2nd tub with water works. 24 hours is a long soak. 2-3 hours is usually sufficient.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
dr.snuggles said:
After you pour your agar plates do you let them sit in front of the flowhood for some time with the flowhood running to get rid of condensation? Or just bag them in ziplocks after they have cooled down?


CLINGWRAP them haha.  ziplocks are ok too i suppose.  i dont have a flow so i just let them cool overnight.  condensation doesn't hurt anything, in fact, I think it helps my long-term storage plates not bruise.


Why you would wrap every plate twice is beyond me.


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Flowchart for Recommended plan of action.
Learn the tried and true way to grow mushrooms
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Pick a book, Make some chips!
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DharmaForKarma]
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DharmaForKarma said:
A single layer of thin plastic is the way to go. It needs to adhere to the sub to prevent evaporation and thus pinning on the sides and bottom. Thicker plastic is less flexible and might not adhere to the sub as well. A second layer serves no purpose.

Yes, soak by filling and pressing down with another tub + weight. Filling the 2nd tub with water works. 24 hours is a long soak. 2-3 hours is usually sufficient.


ComebackKid's Proper Surface Moisture tek mentions a double layer to preserve a dry barrier between the secondary liner and tub. I would like to replicate this method over a single, maybe even just use a full trash bag like him and see what happens.

2-3 hours... got it :thumbup: I've never done a soak before so I thank ya

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