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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Smellyhobbit said:
If they’re gt, they’re leucistic. Just means halfway to albino. Clone em.


Okay awesome that is what I was thinking! I guess genetics went crazy with these ones haha. I have a lot of cultures from this one so I’m def keeping these cultures.

Also, on a side note, quick question on the tubs I have. The tubs in the pic had 1 mycoquart of spawn to 1 qt of coir. I also have some tubs where I did 2qt spawn to 2qt coir. They all have pins and look good but I noticed that the ones with 1qt are much farther along than the ones with 2qt. Know why that might be happening?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Newshroom42]
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If Jack frost is a APE x TAT cross, does it blob like APEs without a thick top layer?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Pandaskis]
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Never seen blobs. Sometimes fins that develop into many fruits though.
I don't case them.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Pandaskis] * 1
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Pandaskis said:
If Jack frost is a APE x TAT cross, does it blob like APEs without a thick top layer?


a thick top layer is a good general policy...

just blobed on me once in a multispore grow but went good afterwards:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: thirdeyewild]
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thirdeyewild said:
Never seen blobs. Sometimes fins that develop into many fruits though.
I don't case them.


No top layer at all? Is there a reason why? :O


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Pandaskis]
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I only case or top layer exotics. My melmak blobbed pretty bad though...

(which is kinda funny, I though melmak was not supposed to blob!)


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Edited by thirdeyewild (06/05/23 07:16 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: thirdeyewild]
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I could use some help evaluating the state of my grain jars.

On 5/22 I inoculated quart rye jars with 4 mL LC. (The LC had tested clean previously.)

On 6/1 the jars looked to be about 30% colonized, so I did a break & shake & mix. It did take a couple of days for growth to visibly resume.

Today 6/5 the jars look like the pic below... Healthy as far as I can see, but still not quite fully colonized.

So, at this point I should wait until all the grains look visibly colonized, and then wait one more week, is that correct?

Is the answer any different if you are planning to use the jars as G2G donors vs sending to bulk? I do intend to make this set of jars my G2G library, and put 'em in the fridge when they are just right.

Thanks for the assist.



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Yuggoth]
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Yuggoth said:
I could use some help evaluating the state of my grain jars.

On 5/22 I inoculated quart rye jars with 4 mL LC. (The LC had tested clean previously.)

On 6/1 the jars looked to be about 30% colonized, so I did a break & shake & mix. It did take a couple of days for growth to visibly resume.

Today 6/5 the jars look like the pic below... Healthy as far as I can see, but still not quite fully colonized.

So, at this point I should wait until all the grains look visibly colonized, and then wait one more week, is that correct?

Is the answer any different if you are planning to use the jars as G2G donors vs sending to bulk? I do intend to make this set of jars my G2G library, and put 'em in the fridge when they are just right.

Thanks for the assist.




Yep, wait until it is fully colonized. There is no reason to wait a week. That is for PF tek where you can't shake the grain jar and spread the inoculation points around. When you see full colonization here, the inside should be fully colonized as well.

There is no difference if you are using it for G2G.

Nice job.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Way]
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That's a fine looking jar, cheers! Looks like you could send it now


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Way]
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Way said:There is no reason to wait a week. That is for PF tek...


Ah hah! Rad. Thanks again Way.

Is "fully colonized" when all the grains look like the currently fuzzy grains, or do I need to wait for it all to look ... thicker?  If I check the pics in the "how it should & shouldn't look" thread, the examples all seem to be more dense than the growth I see.

Based on @sprocket's feedback, I may be overthinking it! I do that a lot, haha.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Yuggoth]
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Eh, it looks like it still has a couple days at least in my opinion. I wouldn't think of spawning it at this point.

In my experience, the mycelium should get together and form a more cohesive network and get a slightly more dense. Right now it still looks broken up a bit and there are some uncolonized grains.

Maybe I'm anal about my spawn though lol.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Way] * 1
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That works for me, I'll sit on it. I am in no hurry. If I have any doubts I'll post another pic in a few days.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Way] * 1
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Fair enough, a few more days could only help. But either way, that's a fine looking jar! I can be impatient at times, so I defer to your expertise way. Can't argue with your success!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sprocket] * 1
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Hey guys, I’m working on my first grow and I’m still learning what good growth looks like vs contam. I’d like to get some advice on how it’s going.

I placed my grain on sub on 6/1 and this is how it looks today. The strain is PE if that matters






Edited by veazyy (06/05/23 11:30 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: veazyy]
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veazyy said:
Hey guys, I’m working on my first grow and I’m still learning what good growth looks like vs contam. I’d like to get some advice on how it’s going.

I placed my grain on sub on 6/1 and this is how it looks today. The strain is PE if that matters








Looks pretty good to me so far. Maybe a smidge on the dry side. Is this a shoebox with the lid closed?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 1
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:whathesaid: Did you add a top layer of substrate with no grains mixed? (pseudocasing). PE will benifit with a thick well compact top layer or classic casing.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: HILLBILLY OUTLAW]
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Way said:

Looks pretty good to me so far. Maybe a smidge on the dry side. Is this a shoebox with the lid closed?


Yes, it’s a 6 qt shoebox with the lid closed. I’ve heard people say mist right away and mist only when going into fruiting conditions so I wasn’t really sure.


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HILLBILLY OUTLAW said:
:whathesaid: Did you add a top layer of substrate with no grains mixed? (pseudocasing). PE will benifit with a thick well compact top layer or classic casing.


Nice tip, I’ll add a thicker layer next time I spawn to bulk. For this shoebox specifically I placed a layer of substrate about quarter inch thick on top. 

Would you guys recommend giving it a good misting?

Edited by veazyy (06/06/23 12:08 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: veazyy]
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veazyy said:
Quote:
Way said:

Looks pretty good to me so far. Maybe a smidge on the dry side. Is this a shoebox with the lid closed?


Yes, it’s a 6 qt shoebox with the lid closed. I’ve heard people say mist right away and mist only when going into fruiting conditions so I wasn’t really sure.


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HILLBILLY OUTLAW said:
:whathesaid: Did you add a top layer of substrate with no grains mixed? (pseudocasing). PE will benifit with a thick well compact top layer or classic casing.


Nice tip, I’ll add a thicker layer next time I spawn to bulk. For this shoebox specifically I placed a layer of substrate about quarter inch thick on top. 

Would you guys recommend giving it a good misting?


Yes mist until you seem thousands of tiny water droplets on the mycelium. You don't want it to pool though


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: veazyy] * 1
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veazyy said:
Quote:
Way said:

Looks pretty good to me so far. Maybe a smidge on the dry side. Is this a shoebox with the lid closed?


Yes, it’s a 6 qt shoebox with the lid closed. I’ve heard people say mist right away and mist only when going into fruiting conditions so I wasn’t really sure.


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HILLBILLY OUTLAW said:
:whathesaid: Did you add a top layer of substrate with no grains mixed? (pseudocasing). PE will benifit with a thick well compact top layer or classic casing.


Nice tip, I’ll add a thicker layer next time I spawn to bulk. For this shoebox specifically I placed a layer of substrate about quarter inch thick on top. 

Would you guys recommend giving it a good misting?


Make the surface look like this.

Keep the surface looking like that.

We don't really do "fruiting conditions" much here any more. Most of us go into "growing conditions" from day one, which is just giving it sufficient air and keeping the surface from drying out when the mycelium has fully colonized. Lucky for you shoeboxes provide more than enough air even with the lid fully latched, so you have technically been in "fruiting conditions" the entire time.

Shoeboxes are kind of hit an miss unless you get your field capacity on point and use a thick substrate. Sometimes even with the lid closed you can end up with the surface drying up a bit. In that case, a misting is needed, but should only be done after the surface is mostly colonized. The reason for that is you need the surface to be covered in mycelium to actually bead up properly.

Keep the lid on until the fruits start to get close to the lid. At that point just unlatch it but leave it on normally. The fruits will push up the lid.

Other than that, mist as needed according to the guide I linked. You do those two things and you'll be on your way to shrooms.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Way]
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I am considering trying my first monotub. I have 32 quart gasket tubs. What would you recommend for this? I was thinking 3 mycoquarts of span and 6 quarts of substrate.
 
  would this be adequate or should I go with 4 quarts grain and 8 quarts sub. Shooting for @3 -3 1/2 inches of sub. The tubs are unmodified so I was going to prop the lid up on 2 of the latches for fae.

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