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Munch's Shoebox Method * 17
    #26984354 - 10/14/20 12:28 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

How I Grow with Shoeboxes
Shoeboxes are great for when you want to fruit just one jar of grains by itself. Over the years, I've tried just about every configuration imaginable. This is by far my favorite way to grow with shoeboxes, as it allows me to set them and forget them. Before this method, I would always have to mist the surfaces to maintain proper conditions. Now I can just wait for knots to show up, and pop the tops and fruit them.

You Will Need:
- monotub (standard or Pasty's EZ Dialed monos, I use the standard holes with micropore tape as a FAE regulator)
- 6 qt plastic tote (we call them shoeboxes cause the Sterlite brand on this container has a picture of women's shoes on it)
- clean spawn jars
- prepped substrate

Process:
- Knock & shake 1 grain jar until the grains are fully broken up
- Add 1.5 quarts of substrate to an empty shoebox, leaving 0.5 quarts to the side
- Add broken up grains to top of substrate
- Mix by hand
- Level the surface by hand and gently tamp it down
- Add remaining 1/2 quart of substrate to top of leveled grains
- Level the top substrate layer with your hand
- Gently tamp the surface down
- Attach lid
- Set 4 shoeboxes in 1 monotub, stack monos as needed
- Let colonize 1-2 weeks with light
- Pop lids off when knots or pins appear and set 2 shoeboxes in each monotub
- Wait for harvest!

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Results:
















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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26984361 - 10/14/20 12:35 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Hell yeah good stuff =)


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: Loomy]
    #26984364 - 10/14/20 12:38 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

:neat:


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: Loomy]
    #26984371 - 10/14/20 12:47 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Saving for reference, thank you!

If I ever tried the Dialed in tub I'm going to this. Sounds like an easy clean up!

I'm an unmodded tub and shoebox guy myself


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: RhYzo]
    #26984558 - 10/14/20 06:31 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

:howyoudoing:


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    #26984712 - 10/14/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

:nodofunderstanding:


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: Inocuole]
    #26985228 - 10/14/20 02:09 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Appreciate you making the video!


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26985257 - 10/14/20 02:20 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Dude, thats from 1 grain jar ?



4 real ?



Those flushes ?

How big is your grain jar

Why even make anything bigger


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #26985299 - 10/14/20 02:42 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

What size container would hold 4 shoeboxes?


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26985314 - 10/14/20 02:49 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Sick results! Great post, i will be making 2 shoeboxes in the next days for the first time and this comes in handy. Thanks!

Oh and cool YT channel, definitely checking out the rest of the videos. subbed :wink:


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #26985315 - 10/14/20 02:49 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

smalltalk_canceled said:
Dude, thats from 1 grain jar ?



4 real ?



Those flushes ?

How big is your grain jar

Why even make anything bigger




A good question here is also whether this is multispore or a strain that performs very well for Munch's growing conditions as he has spent a fair amount of time isolating/cloning it.

There are a ton of variables. Of course if Munch comes back and says it's multispore, well then there ya go, proof this tek is the bomb diggity.


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: JHOVA]
    #26985317 - 10/14/20 02:50 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

JHOVA said:
What size container would hold 4 shoeboxes?



66 quarts


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: karri0n]
    #26985330 - 10/14/20 02:55 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

smalltalk_canceled said:
Dude, thats from 1 grain jar ?



4 real ?



Those flushes ?

How big is your grain jar

Why even make anything bigger




A good question here is also whether this is multispore or a strain that performs very well for Munch's growing conditions as he has spent a fair amount of time isolating/cloning it.

There are a ton of variables. Of course if Munch comes back and says it's multispore, well then there ya go, proof this tek is the bomb diggity.




Yes one quart spawn! I couldn't tell you the exact specs of every pic, but I'd say most are MS. I don't do much cloning. Texas Orange Cap MS and Stropharia MS have been my go-to for bulk for years. Canopies are more about providing proper conditions than nailing a gnarly clone, although it can help. And those familiar with my grows know I've been preaching MS for years, this isn't just for this reply. Check the search engine for the number of times I've mentioned MS Stropharia.


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26985336 - 10/14/20 02:59 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Your advocating for Stro and TOC was the inspiration behind me adamantly searching for them on the Marketplace and putting them to agar ASAP. Should be ready to go to grain in the next week or so. I'm ready to see the results:rockon:


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26985350 - 10/14/20 03:07 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Haha i meant like side ways back to back.


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: JHOVA]
    #26985439 - 10/14/20 03:58 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I think I have some stro prints laying around. Funny how you don't see many people mentioning that variety.

Great video production bro


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26985468 - 10/14/20 04:11 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Munchauzen said:





it looks like you have a few bottom pins in that tub  :jolly:


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: FriedEgg]
    #26985484 - 10/14/20 04:20 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

That's what happens when you give up fighting the side pins and just lean into it! :rofl:


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26985627 - 10/14/20 05:23 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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karri0n said:
Of course if Munch comes back and says it's multispore, well then there ya go, proof this tek is the bomb diggity.




Quote:

Munchauzen said:
Yes one quart spawn! I couldn't tell you the exact specs of every pic, but I'd say most are MS. I don't do much cloning. Texas Orange Cap MS and Stropharia MS have been my go-to for bulk for years. Canopies are more about providing proper conditions than nailing a gnarly clone, although it can help. And those familiar with my grows know I've been preaching MS for years, this isn't just for this reply. Check the search engine for the number of times I've mentioned MS Stropharia.




and there you have it


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: karri0n]
    #26985657 - 10/14/20 05:39 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Please tell me the amount of grain roughly
that is one Jar here

This is crazy, nobel prize results, from anything resembling 500g of grain,
for me at least. And the amount of kernels makes me disbelieve that this can be from a single jar

I have been fruiting cubes for  a year now, and these results are better than all my MS corn cube grows, with faaaaaaar more spawn than "one jar"
imaginably can be

"Canopies are more about providing proper conditions than nailing a gnarly clone, although it can help"

HEART BREAKING

good work munch, i just feel so lost, seeing this


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #26985674 - 10/14/20 05:50 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

a bit under a quart of spawn as you can see from the video


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: TheBoJim]
    #26985692 - 10/14/20 05:58 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

:popcorn:


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: mushboy]
    #26985729 - 10/14/20 06:18 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

but munch, please, how much is that, roughly, in grams

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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: smalltalk_canceled] * 2
    #26985754 - 10/14/20 06:27 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Hahaha I'm not a hard numbers guy. My style is to not give a fuck. The spawn jars are just 3/4 quart jars of high quality racehorse oats. I hard boil the oats for 20 minutes, strain on a flat screen, and load them when they are no longer hot. Lots of ppl, even some great TCs, shit on oats. No clue why.


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26985770 - 10/14/20 06:35 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

grrrrraaaaamzzz

roughly

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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #26985775 - 10/14/20 06:38 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I have no clue how much the oats weigh. Never weighed them.


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #26985784 - 10/14/20 06:45 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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grrrrraaaaamzzz

roughly

Come on mayne




Just stop using corn, it's a very poor choice. The man uses one quart of spawn and gets results because he know's how to grow mushrooms. Get better at producing spawn and the weight won't matter, first step to better spawn is ditching corn :shrug:

Nice shoeboxes:popcorn:


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #26985981 - 10/14/20 08:31 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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p9hu7 said:
Quote:

smalltalk_canceled said:
grrrrraaaaamzzz

roughly

Come on mayne




Just stop using corn, it's a very poor choice. The man uses one quart of spawn and gets results because he know's how to grow mushrooms. Get better at producing spawn and the weight won't matter, first step to better spawn is ditching corn :shrug:

Nice shoeboxes:popcorn:



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but munch, please, how much is that, roughly, in grams

mercy



Quote:

smalltalk_canceled said:
but munch, please, how much is that, roughly, in grams

mercy





From BOD's oat tek. This is what I do

Quote:

For 10 jars (what fits in my 23q presto) you need 10-12 cups of oats or 2.5-3 quarts of dry oats.

Since weight is easier and more reliable I just weigh out 210-220 grams per quart jar or 180 grams if using them for g2g receiving jars as they need some extra room.




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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: TheBoJim]
    #26986255 - 10/15/20 12:03 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Nice! :crazy2:


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    #26987142 - 10/15/20 02:05 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

made the switch to oats today, corn, you're out !


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    #26996537 - 10/21/20 02:41 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I dont even use the boards much any more, just stalk a handfull of posters lmao


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26996549 - 10/21/20 02:54 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Hell yeah, Munch, that's some good shit. Beautiful fruits at the end of that vid, too. Thanks for putting this together. Never thought of putting shoeboxes inside mono tubs, but it obviously works beautifully :smile:

Dig the music, too haha


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26999369 - 10/23/20 09:29 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Oh, yer gonna love this, but I just wanna be like Munch!

I've gone thru Pasty's EZ dialed, and I'm just lost where to put the larger holes.
I know 3 long side, 2 short side, I think, mebbe not Know...

So I grabbed an old SAB 66qrt and added some more holes.

         

But I have a new 66 that I want to do better!
               
Can you add dimensions or a drawing for location and hole size
for the long and short sides?   
However the cans I use to melt holes are; 2", 2.5", 3", and the ever popular 4" coffee can.

I mean some current holes are below the Shoebox top, so it seems
restricted. I would think above, so there's more open space behind the holes.
Thanks for your time and awesome tips!  :hatsoff:

p.s. Can't wait to see your Uncle Ben's experiment... :rofl:


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: Inthepit]
    #26999705 - 10/23/20 01:05 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

My rig for making holes is to go buy a glass bottle of Coke, stab a screwdriver thru the metal cap, heat that bitch up and push it thru. Do it outside if possible and be careful to not drop the hot cap off the screwdriver. I can shoot some pics of the design later.


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26999855 - 10/23/20 02:33 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Ill prob give this a shot, seems like it might be perfect for dry climates.


The talk about how much spawn and those pictures is why I never understood people using more than one quart per shoebox. A quart is perfect, if you get a good culture and everything goes right you can get the whole yield in one flush. I’ve had a few 500g wet flushes from one quart and seen people do even better.

Those toc fruits are awesome, I’ve never gotten any that thick on the first flush.


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: Munchauzen]
    #27001028 - 10/24/20 09:30 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Oh I see where I got the larger hole idea...first and then your video...

  Mushboys       and mine    2" holes

I saw it in Mushboy Making Shoeboxes  (some hilarity)

Ya I liked the idea of dialing in the FAE with tape, although not sure that idea is in there either. :facepalm3:
Ok found it, you said it! " I use the standard holes with micropore tape as a FAE regulator" LOL
AND I can pretty well see where you put the holes now that I go over the video again. I suppose
this tub's holes are gonna be pretty big, so perhaps I'll double up the tape...

Anyways, FAE is prolly not so important while the lids are snapped on.
So there will be room in front of the holes when there's just two open Shoeboxes, duh.

Sorry just getting up to speed here...


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: FriedEgg]
    #27001050 - 10/24/20 09:50 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

Munchauzen said:





it looks like you have a few bottom pins in that tub  :jolly:





God dammit why'd this get such a big laugh out of me.


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: Munchauzen]
    #27013800 - 10/31/20 01:01 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Ok, new 66 quart tub gets 1.35" dia. holes from my biggest hot socket!    :laugh2:
           
                and voilà! 

I put two layers of micropore tape because there's no moisture in the other one since 8 days.
I'm up to 4 & 5 layers for those big 4" holes (ex-SAB).

(I know I could have four SBs in one tub till fruiting, but...)

two shoeboxes triched out really bad with a few gnats!
It seems like the lid on the tub is warped or ill fitting.
So I added weather stripping, the black stuff under the lid.

                  SB1 spawned 10/17, SB3 10/23

Now hopefully the tub will start showing some moisture in it.
This is the new 66 qrt tub with six 1.3" diameter holes.
Covered by 2 layers of micropore tape.

Thanks for the tub method Munch!  :hatsoff:


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: Inthepit]
    #27034582 - 11/12/20 05:53 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)



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    #27035057 - 11/12/20 11:25 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Nice them some big ones


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: Munchauzen]
    #27035797 - 11/12/20 06:49 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

is this a pass? is it canopy?


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    #27063473 - 11/29/20 05:55 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Commenting to report back later, because I put a couple shoeboxes into a traditional monotub today after spawning.

Thanks for the easy write up, Munch!


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: GrinchGrower]
    #27078749 - 12/08/20 12:54 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Not sure if posting in this thread is appropriate. If not please advise. Very thankful for Munch's work and efforts. Wondering if this shoebox looks OK or if the experts think that it may need to be hydrated?



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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: mycone]
    #27079183 - 12/08/20 06:07 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

looks solid to me!


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: Munchauzen]
    #27079211 - 12/08/20 06:23 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

This has really helped me streamline my setup, consolidate grows, and save space. Working out great so far...



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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: GrinchGrower]
    #27079215 - 12/08/20 06:25 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: Munchauzen]
    #27079240 - 12/08/20 06:39 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I'm using smaller 46.6qt gasket sealed boxes so I am curious to see if this restricts air flow too much.

I set up a pasty EZ dial tub to compare the monos with too.


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: GrinchGrower]
    #27085235 - 12/12/20 08:30 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #27092201 - 12/16/20 01:34 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Hey Munch or others with more experience than I...

PE Shoebox - First signs of the white speckles (primordia I presume) showed up about a week ago with a significant increase over the few days that followed. Curious if there are any apparent issues that might be stalling the fruiting process or if patience might be the issue.



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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: mycone]
    #27155929 - 01/18/21 05:03 PM (3 years, 9 days ago)

Mycone, How did things work out? I'm at about the same stage as your picture. I'm got some knots forming, but am concerned about moisture. I just sprayed the bigger tub and a super light mist on the shoebox. RH seems to be at 90-92 steady.

Also, if Munch can chime in: I had one shoebox that was developing much slower. I spawned to bulk 4 days after the first one and it's still slowly developing. will the be an issue if I have one tub closed and the other open? Do they rely on each other to provide proper moisture in the bigger tub? or does it not matter?

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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: anonymoose1010]
    #27156098 - 01/18/21 06:40 PM (3 years, 9 days ago)

How many flushes should we bother with for  shoeboxes, munch.

Only seeing crappy 2nd ones after good first flushes with shoebox, thinking it's a water problem


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    #27208273 - 02/15/21 08:36 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

I wish munch lived in Detroit, I want to apprentice!  I am a shitty mushroom grower.  But, I refuse to give up or give in!


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: Dem-blessed1]
    #27212596 - 02/18/21 08:33 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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I wish munch lived in Detroit, I want to apprentice!  I am a shitty mushroom grower.  But, I refuse to give up or give in!




Reading all of the info available is one thing, retaining and understanding what you’re reading is everything.  Take notes of your processes and when things go wrong you can look back at your notes.  Clean spawn is king, if you don’t have that, you’re already moving in the wrong direction.  Spawn bacterial jars to learn from it, and then work on your grain prep and culture.  Giving up is too easy, and once you’ve got an understanding of what you’re doing, growing mushrooms is even easier!


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: Munchauzen]
    #27827219 - 06/19/22 12:09 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

The video for this tek is no longer active.  I'm guessing it covered the significance of the larger tub housing the smaller ones.

Can anyone explain the purpose of the outer housing tub?

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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: a-a-ron]
    #27827234 - 06/19/22 12:23 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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The video for this tek is no longer active.  I'm guessing it covered the significance of the larger tub housing the smaller ones.

Can anyone explain the purpose of the outer housing tub?

Thanks!




It creates a single fruiting chamber housing 2 shoeboxes for easier environmental control as well as the added headroom.


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: a-a-ron]
    #27827468 - 06/19/22 03:52 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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The video for this tek is no longer active.  I'm guessing it covered the significance of the larger tub housing the smaller ones.

Can anyone explain the purpose of the outer housing tub?

Thanks!



fixed it!


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: Munchauzen]
    #27827711 - 06/19/22 07:02 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

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The video for this tek is no longer active.  I'm guessing it covered the significance of the larger tub housing the smaller ones.

Can anyone explain the purpose of the outer housing tub?

Thanks!



fixed it!




Awesome, nice vid, thanks for reposting that.

Do you have a coir TEK that you follow?  It looks like it's at a really nice field capacity in the video.  And not having to apply water at any future stage spells huge win.

Also, how many flushes per shoebox do you typically yield from your TEK?


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: a-a-ron]
    #27853471 - 07/07/22 11:27 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

No plastic bags on the bottom?


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    #27909194 - 08/19/22 07:54 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Really nicely put together.


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: Munchauzen]
    #28247040 - 03/26/23 05:46 AM (9 months, 28 days ago)

Those grows look amazing,

Would it be okay to use 2 quarts of spawn in each shoe box? Would I use the same amount of sub?


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Re: Munch's Shoebox Method [Re: Pandaskis]
    #28249387 - 03/27/23 02:26 PM (9 months, 27 days ago)

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Those grows look amazing,

Would it be okay to use 2 quarts of spawn in each shoe box? Would I use the same amount of sub?




1 quart per 6qt shoebox is pretty standard across all teks but it wouldn't be impossible to use 2.

Sub ratios can be anywhere from 1 to 1 to 1 to 6 with cubensis.

If I were going to do 2 quarts in a shoebox, I'd probably use 4 quarts sub. You'd end up with the box filled to the brim, and you could either dub tub(put another shoebox over it like a dome) or wait until fully colonized, remove the lid, and fruit it inside another tub, like seen in this tek.


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