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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Haywire]
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Yessir!  Thanks for the reply :thumbup:

Faht

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: fahtster]
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I agree, a lot of ways to do this. Once you get to clean colonized woodchips you can straight up bury the block outside in the soil, cover with thin soil layer and plant something for humidity retention.

If you want to grow in a tub, I'd apply similar process minus the burying outside :laugh: You get the idea.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Adas]
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Gah, think my ghetto tek in a pot on my balcony is contaminated... is it trich?

Definitely lots of whispy cobweb looking myc (?) all through the pot.

Some background - I did a few cardboard teks with P Sub stems and butts, thought they'd colonised decently. Used some old potting mix that had previously grown cat grass in, but had sat on the balcony for a long time as the base layer, then initially started off with some pine bark mix that I'd poured boiling water over and let sit to soak for a day or 2. After a little bit, I thought the myc wasn't taking to the wood too well so pinched a bunch of fresh proper pine chip from a local park, same boiling water treatment and then swapped the majority of the bark out for the new pine chip. A little bit later I mixed in a little bit of standard council wood mulch I'd found piles of in a local bush reserve. So, less than sterile for sure.
Pot has been just sitting on the balcony and I've been spraying it intermittently.

I've got a couple of takeway container teks and an egg carton going above the fridge at the moment which I was planning to distribute into a second similar pot I've had sitting next to the one mentioned above.

If it's contaminated, what steps do I need to take to minimise fucking up if starting again? I've read through a good chunk of this thread and some of the other teks but honestly find that they all rely on some assumed knowledge - if someone can point me towards a comprehensive ghetto tek guide for subs, that'd be appreciated!
I basically just want to have a couple of pots quietly going on the balcony to hopefully have some nice surprises next winter (I'm in southern hemisphere so just coming into spring here now).


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: NNotNENN]
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To be honest, I would not worry about contamination on wood specifically with woodlovers.

I get contam in wood every now and then, and with trich, I can just pluck it out of the wood, toss it, and usually I'll never see it again. Trich doesn't seem to either advance quickly nor spread rapidly on wood.

Anyways, I would advise against anything really ghetto if you are trying to get mycelium established. I personally have found grains for instance, give the mycelium an excellent head start and it will ravage wood like crazy. You can save wood lover mycelium with cardboard, let that colonize and do layers of cardboard, wood chips, and a sprinkle of soil.

I never sterilize wood chips, but I personally buy bags of smoking chips that don't already have living, and potentially competing organisms in it. Just go look around at a park, brush back the leaf litter over chips and you'll see more often than not, that there is already some mycelium of something growing. Nature has her way. Bags of smoking chips are cheap enough as it is, so I highly recommend you use those. The only time I would recommend using existing wood chips is if you are fortifying an existing patch that is very healthy. 

I highly recommend this tek. This has worked the best for me by a far.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: holofractal] * 2
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Things are looking quite well with the allenii :smile:



Mycelial mass is so thick. I really do think it's the cardboard that made a difference. I've since removed it all, so as the season progresses, I'm very interested to see the development of fruits, and in about 10-21 days should start to see more. All the fruits I have at the moment were in the gaps of the cardboard, eager little things.



Cyans didn't want to be late to the party either, they are just starting to come up! Exciting times. This little one is also growing in an uncovered spot. I do also have smaller patches that have no covering, and one with a woody soil casing, just as an experiment. 



Scouring my azure and other cyan patches. Nothing yet, but it's still very early and I'm sure the azures would like it a bit colder. I become hyper attentive when fruits start popping up, I get out there with my light and get real close heavily inspecting for signs of activity,  I'm very caring with the mushrooms and keep them happy. It really is wonderful for me this time of year, as all this work is culminating into something so lovely.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: holofractal]
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holofractal said:
Anyways, I would advise against anything really ghetto if you are trying to get mycelium established. I personally have found grains for instance, give the mycelium an excellent head start and it will ravage wood like crazy. You can save wood lover mycelium with cardboard, let that colonize and do layers of cardboard, wood chips, and a sprinkle of soil.


Yeah cool. Thanks for the tips. I've pretty much got what you've mentioned here going in a couple of takeaway containers and a small egg carton too. Got a decent small amount of myc onto the pine chips in those, but it's been slow going (weeks and weeks) - bought a seedling heat mat recently to try and keep them at the 80f/27c temp to see if that kicks things up.
Once those are better colonised, I'll try starting the second pot - think going straight from cardboard to pot might've been a bit bold on the first one.

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: NNotNENN] * 3
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Trying some 2.5+ year old Azure wood spawn, been sitting in my fridge all that time. I am using my WL-Tek recipe:

600ml Water, 100g Paper Pellets, 50g Wood Pellets, 6g MG, 2g CaCO3, 0.68g YN | 4 + 4 Minutes.

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I assembled it 18 hours ago, and there is some growth, the wood spawn is at the bottom.

       

Will be interesting to see what happens, and if it fruits at all.
I expect more visible growth around the 16th.


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Edited by Ferather (09/14/21 03:32 AM)

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Ferather]
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Hey Ferather, nice to see you back in the game!


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Ferather]
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Ferather said:
Trying some 2.5+ year old Azure wood spawn, been sitting in my fridge all that time. I am using my WL-Tek recipe:

600ml Water, 100g Paper Pellets, 50g Wood Pellets, 6g MG, 2g CaCO3, 0.68g YN | 4 + 4 Minutes.

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I assembled it 18 hours ago, and there is some growth, the wood spawn is at the bottom.

       

Will be interesting to see what happens, and if it fruits at all.
I expect more visible growth around the 16th.


2.5 years!? Damn :awesomenod:

I thought my 1 year old plates were gross :shrug:
Haha I can’t wait to see what you get.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: fahtster]
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fahtster said:
Heya peeps.  I’ve got a couple ps cyan GLC jars (they’re about fully colonized.. I actually knocked them both off the table when I was taking the pic so they broke apart a bit—the grains are pretty dry too but that doesn’t matter for glc.. they’re not contaminated or anything, they’re just ugly :lol:)


I’ve got a bunch of reading to do in this thread and I’m just getting started but I can’t decide how I want to proceed.. glc these to qts with grain and wood chips or maybe just grain and then spawn that to a tub of chips?  Also thought about sterilized cardboard in qts.. not even sure if the lc would take off on that.. like I said, just getting started.. about to do a lot of reading.  How would you go about it… links work too, you don’t have to lay it all out here or anything.  Thanks!

Faht


I'd go colonized grain to a takeout container or anything you can stuff wood chips into. Just pasteurize. I'm lazy and just boil the woodchips like my oat prep and let it cool and go to town.

Once those woodchips are colonized. Spread those chips to more chips. Start making a bed with some of those chips. Once you make it to wood you're basically done. If my colony dries out, do a quick boil of wood chips and throw more on.

I like to just go jar->woodchips. (or agar->wood)

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: rockyfungus]
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Awesome, thanks man!  That’s what I wanted to hear.  How long do you boil for?  Got a certain chip you like?  You da man :thumbup:

Currently drying them out for storage but now ya got me wanting to put em to grain.. you make it sounds to easy :lol: 

Edited by fahtster (09/14/21 05:36 PM)

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: fahtster] * 1
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Word on the streets is Scott's naturscapes are primo (all i use and random snapable wood from yard). If you can source local hardwood even better.
But I think the big box stores sell a bag for under 4 bucks even. It'll provide enough wood for a ton of little projects and then your patch.

I boil it for 30-45 mins at rolling boil, kill heat. A true pasteurization is better I suppose, but boiling never failed they are tenacious. Lime pasteurization works too. I'm lazy and ADHD so boil and forget. Don't overthink, these are aggresive.

This shit dried out. Boiled chips for 30ish mins, cooled, squeezed threw on top. 3 days later.

So small classic tupperware with agar/grain->small layer of wood. Few weeks shit is roaring. Maybe you messed up hydration, rewet/boil new chips, toss 'em on top. When you got too much spawn go to ground!

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: rockyfungus]
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Perfect.. thanks pal!

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: fahtster] * 4
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Little update on the allenii, they are looking fantastic!






Next day



Absolutely loving the progress!


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: holofractal]
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:jodie:


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Adas]
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Looking so goooooooooo:rockon:


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: holofractal]
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holofractal said:
Little update on the allenii, they are looking fantastic!






Next day



Absolutely loving the progress!



:dancer::dancer: :vibin: :dancer::dancer:


Those are the fruits of some real craftsmanship, beautiful :highfive:


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
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Thanks guys :smile:

Here's a bit of the patch in action! Mister too.

You can almost make out the "line" the allenii are growing in, as that were the gaps between the cardboard layer, so hopefully, more are coming as season progresses.

Cyans are just starting to come up as well, allenii has them in the dust at this rate lol. Maybe if I made the patches closer to each other they'd see competition and fruit faster :P Just a funny thought.


Cyan pin. Only see 3 so far.


Not bad amount of activity for the middle of September. Super early, kinda suprised.

Baba Yaga said:
:dancer::dancer: :vibin: :dancer::dancer:


Those are the fruits of some real craftsmanship, beautiful :highfive:


Thanks man, means a lot to me. I am a little overattentive to the mushrooms this time of year, I keep everything clean and take lots of pics as I only see them a few months out of the year!


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I am open to questions about wood lovers, I don't know everything, but if you like my posts and have a question, feel free to ask in a PM
I do a lot of indoor experiments. I, one day, WILL figure out a surefire method for indoor woodlovers. Nothing is impossible.

Indoor Woodlover experimentation Journal
Indoor woodlover information - condensed
Indoor azurescens :laugh:

Edited by holofractal (09/15/21 02:30 PM)

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: fahtster]
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fahtster said:
  Got a certain chip you like?


Faht, I can support that Scott’s nature scapes works very well, but I think it may vary from batch to batch.  Lowe’s also had one that was just like “brown mulch” or “black mulch” that was cheaper than nature scapes and it worked great.  A couple years ago I had a bunch of nature scape bags that were more bark or something and nothing really seemed to thrive on it.  Also if you have a rexius near by they sell an alder sawdust by the yard for mushroom cultivation, all of my cultures loved it when it was fresh but as the pile set for a month I started getting bugs and mold, I was told their fibrex was alder chips so I got a couple yards and it was almost all cedar and some fir and none of my woodlovers like it.
The best is if you have a local tree service who’ll drop
Off hardwood chips for free if they’re doing a job in your area.

Halo!  That’s wonderful. 


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Edited by Land Trout (09/15/21 03:31 PM)

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Land Trout]
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Thanks.

As for chips I try to stick to hardwoods. I have found a store in my area called BiMart, they sell 4L bags of smoking hardwoods for $3.29. I can't find a better deal. I think for a chip drop I may have to let the resins leach out, cus we have a lot of coniferous trees around here, but I know they can be used.


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