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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Trump is going to go to prison. This level of fraud is stunning


Can you share an example?  I can't read the NYT.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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And who leaked the info?  Someone from inside the Govt?  Will they go to jail?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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The times said the source was someone with legal access. They aren’t publishing the actual documents because it may reveal the source.

I assume the source would be in serious legal jeopardy if their identity was known


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods] * 2
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Only 750 dollars in income tax for 2016 ? I pay double that every month and then still end up paying at the end of the year .
  Fuck I’m an idiot or something  I really need to change my approach . I already have a dishonest account friend I can pay with weed now and I just need to find a crooked lawyer I can pay with blowjobs from my wife’s slutty sister.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
koods said:
Trump is going to go to prison. This level of fraud is stunning


Can you share an example?  I can't read the NYT.


He’s essentially lied to every bank and creditor he deals with about his true financial situation. He’s highly leveraged with debt that was apparently obtained through bank fraud. This is what the NY state investigation concerns and why trump went all the way to the Supreme Court to prevent those investigators from doing their work.

I can’t believe this loser was elected president. The man is a complete fraud just like anyone with a brain has known for decades


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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NotSheekle said
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
He’s a fucking leech


The outrage should be the tax system, not the people that play by the Established rules. Your outrage and many others is completely misdirected.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
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koods said:
Trump is going to go to prison. This level of fraud is stunning


So the IRS has stated he owes more in taxes than be payed?  So far, the IRS is fine with his tax payments, correct?

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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Well turns out trump was telling the truth about one thing. The IRS has been investigating his tax returns since 2010 because of some potentially fraudulent tax credits he received. He’s been under audit and been fighting them for 10 years


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
koods said:
Trump is going to go to prison. This level of fraud is stunning


So the IRS has stated he owes more in taxes than be payed?  So far, the IRS is fine with his tax payments, correct?


There’s some potentially criminal activity, but for the most part he hasn’t paid taxes because he chronically loses money. The dispute with the IRS is about $80 million in refunds he received that he wasn’t entitled to. He’s trying to keep them collecting it plus penalties, totaling $100 million.

He essentially lives off the revenue from his properties, almost all of which have operating loses. And his properties are essentially completely leveraged. A majority of his taxable income in the past decade derives from the value of the loans he’s defaulted on. (If you don’t pay back loans, you have to pay taxes on the unpaid amount)

It seems that trump stays afloat by not paying back loans and uses his buildings to collateralize even more loans which he gets by over valuing those properties.

The revenue from his businesses are fairly paltry 20-30 million a year. And like I said, most of his taxable income is due to his unpaid loans, not from his businesses. And almost every year his taxable income is offset completely by loses.


Edited by koods (09/27/20 07:18 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods] * 2
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trumps former campaign manager Brad Parscale was involved in an armed standoff with police tonight. He threatened to kill himself. He surrendered and was taken to a psychiatric facility. #thebestpeople



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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (09/27/20 08:06 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Psilynut2]
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Psilynut2 said:
Only 750 dollars in income tax for 2016 ? I pay double that every month and then still end up paying at the end of the year .
  Fuck I’m an idiot or something  I really need to change my approach . I already have a dishonest account friend I can pay with weed now and I just need to find a crooked lawyer I can pay with blowjobs from my wife’s slutty sister.


Look up ELOCs, or equity lines of credit.

If you play it right, you can basically set up a ponzi scheme using an initial investment. For example: start with a 100m property, get a bank to give you an ELOC for 50m using the property as collateral, then buy a 50m yacht. Then put that yacht up as collateral for another ELOC worth 25m...

Based on the NYT article about Trump's taxes, that's exactly what he did. Except now he's at the point where his original investments are losing money, his sub-investments (the yacht in my example) are losing money, and the best ELOC he can get is a few hundred thousand dollars, which he then refuses to pay back knowing that the original collateral is worthless.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
The article is an op-ed opinion piece.  RT tends to allow different opinions, though you like to make believe that's not true.  Just like how I showed all the articles bashing Trump, while you pretended they wanted him to win.


As recently as two months ago, you were still parroting the long-debunked seth rich conspiracy theory.  You are so pro-Russia that truth is irrelevant to you.  RT is, and has always been, nothing more than state run propaganda.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Kryptos] * 2
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It’s insane. He just defaults on loans. He doesn’t have to pay them back. How do you do that?

He owes the IRS $72 million and he just refuses to pay and it’s like there’s nothing they can do except negotiate while he stalls. 10 years they’ve been trying to get him to pay. It’s not even money he owed in taxes. It’s a fucking refund he requested, which they sent him without even checking if he was entitled to it.

Except for a couple hustles arranged in corrupt countries, and mar-a-lago, he hasn’t made any money since the apprentice. It appears that he has been a complete failure in running an actual business. The entire trump narrative is fiction. He’s never been a billionaire. His businesses don’t generate anywhere near enough money to build that kind of wealth and his properties are highly leveraged.

We don’t exactly know the value of those assets, but they aren’t anywhere close to the 480 million in debt he currently sitting on. He doesn’t even own a lot of the shit people think of as trump properties. He rents the property where the doral golf course is located, and the trump hotel in DC is leased from the federal government.

I cannot believe this loser was elected president. His supporters are the stupidest fucking people on earth. What an embarrassment.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Psilynut2]
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Psilynut2 said:
Only 750 dollars in income tax for 2016 ? I pay double that every month and then still end up paying at the end of the year .
  Fuck I’m an idiot or something  I really need to change my approach . I already have a dishonest account friend I can pay with weed now and I just need to find a crooked lawyer I can pay with blowjobs from my wife’s slutty sister.


To be fair, you make more money than he does


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil] * 1
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Enlil said:
As recently as two months ago, you were still parroting the long-debunked seth rich conspiracy theory.


How has it been "long debunked"?  Can please post your evidence supporting this?

Here is the evidence from this very thread from two months ago from me to you explaining why it hasn't been debunked.

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Your make believing is getting old on this, as I've told YOU many times:  "I NEVER said Seth Rich is the one who gave the DNC emails to Wikileaks.  I said it was a possibility, and that I was surprised the Government never checked Seth's computer to find out.  Why not???"

I also told YOU:  "There is more evidence saying the Russians didn't give the DNC emails to Wikileaks than there is evidence that they did.

- The FBI couldn't prove the Russian Government gave the emails to Wikileaks, even if Russia had the emails in their possession from spying
- Julian Assange said he didn't get the emails from a Russian source
- Seymour Hersh said a high ranking FBI official told him they checked Seth Rich's computer and found evidence of him working with Wikileaks
- The FBI claims they didn't check Seth Rich's computer (because they can't handle the truth?)"

More detail

Wanting to know what the truth is doesn't make one a conspiracy theorist - it's the opposite.

But you don't want them looking at Seth's computer because if they find anything you'll look incredibly stupid.  So you pretend I'm a conspiracy theorist.

If there's one thing I hate more than stupidity, it's make believe.


Your rebuttal to the above was:

"It doesn't matter who gave them to Wikileaks" (even if it was Seth Rich?)
"Seth rich is irrelevant to the issue" (of why the FBI classified their Seth Rich info "Top Secret")



Enlil said:
You are so pro-Russia that truth is irrelevant to you.  RT is, and has always been, nothing more than state run propaganda.


Source, or make believe?  You are so anti-Russia that you're saying Seth Rich's computer shouldn't even be looked at to rule him out.  :flowstone:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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why the FBI classified their Seth Rich info "Top Secret")


They didn’t. We’ve been over this so many times, but you just continue to lie about it. You’re shameless.

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the Government never checked Seth's computer to find out.  Why not???"


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Seymour Hersh said a high ranking FBI official told him they checked Seth Rich's computer and found evidence of him working with Wikileaks


If one of these statements is true, the other must be false.


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NotSheekle said
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
Quote:
why the FBI classified their Seth Rich info "Top Secret")


They didn’t. We’ve been over this so many times, but you just continue to lie about it. You’re shameless.


Yes, we have been over it, and it turns out "Fifteen documents (32 pages) responsive to your request have been reviewed by this Agency as required by the FOIA and have found to be currently and properly classified in accordance with Executive Order 13526. These documents meet the criteria for classification as set forth in Subparagraph © of Section 1.4 and remains classified TOP SECRET and SECRET."


koods said:
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the Government never checked Seth's computer to find out.  Why not???"


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Seymour Hersh said a high ranking FBI official told him they checked Seth Rich's computer and found evidence of him working with Wikileaks


If one of these statements is true, the other must be false.


That's right.  So either the Government didn't care what was on Seth's computer, or they found out it wasn't Russia and wanted to keep it secret.  Either outcome is a bad look for the FBI.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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I had a boyfriend with OCD and he did weird shit like this. Trump was adorable today, pretending that the fantasy world he has cultivated for decades didn’t just collapse around him.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1310332845668421632?s=21


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NotSheekle said
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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There was plenty of back and forth. I explained why you’re wrong. Enlil agreed. You’re either lying about this or you have poor reading comprehension. Anyone is free to click your link and read the conversation that follows. You really should be ashamed of the way you comport yourself in these threads. It’s one thing to make a mistake, but you will continue to push a proven false narrative even after being called out multiple times.


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