Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

YangSupporter said:

koods said:

Jimmy Dore is a useful idiot for the right. Haven’t you noticed qman posting his videos.

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I thought for sure he'd take that post down after reading this one.

koods said:

Imagine being president and being so narcissistic that you spend your time doing this

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I didn't even know about that, but I knew about the Nationals game.  I guess Trump makes a decent point about the fake news. 

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Why do you continue to parrot his lies. Lies so easy to debunk all I had to do was google “trump football game.” What is your agenda?

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

The Ecstatic said:

It’s actually the opposite, the low info base loves him, and that’s the problem.  That’s why there’s a lot of people on the right who like Jimmy Dore and Michael Tracey.

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I like Jimmy Dore (I don't know who Michael Tracey is).  Why should I care if people on the right like Jimmy Dore?  I think that's a great thing actually!  This is the kind of hate from the left I keep talking about.  "Jimmy Dore is finding common ground!  I guess he appeals to the low info base."  Maybe, but I'll need to see an example to understand your point.

Then I'll also ask you yet again:  "What example of a 'monumentally bad take' from Jimmy Dore did you give?" And why do you think "the serious people on the left don’t take him seriously"?  If you're going to make this claim, you need to back it up.  And if you feel you've already told me, please tell me again because I missed it. 

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The Ecstatic said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

The Ecstatic said:

It’s actually the opposite, the low info base loves him, and that’s the problem.  That’s why there’s a lot of people on the right who like Jimmy Dore and Michael Tracey.

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I like Jimmy Dore (I don't know who Michael Tracey is).  Why should I care if people on the right like Jimmy Dore?  I think that's a great thing actually!  This is the kind of hate from the left I keep talking about.  "Jimmy Dore is finding common ground!  I guess he appeals to the low info base."  Maybe, but I'll need to see an example to understand your point.

Then I'll also ask you yet again:  "What example of a 'monumentally bad take' from Jimmy Dore did you give?" And why do you think "the serious people on the left don’t take him seriously"?  If you're going to make this claim, you need to back it up.  And if you feel you've already told me, please tell me again because I missed it. 

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I’m not disagreeing with the prospect of left rhetoric reaching low info voters, im saying we can do better than jimmy Dore.

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Sure, there might be better.  But I'm still asking:

""What example of a 'monumentally bad take' from Jimmy Dore did you give?" And why do you think "the serious people on the left don’t take him seriously"?  If you're going to make this claim, you need to back it up.  And if you feel you've already told me, please tell me again because I missed it."

Either answer this question, or admit what you said was wrong. 

koods said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

I didn't even know about that, but I knew about the Nationals game.

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Why do you continue to parrot his lies. Lies so easy to debunk all I had to do was google “trump football game.” What is your agenda?

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ballsalsa said:

I guess I'm saying that i would like to see a serious alt-news source with less spin and punchlines and more substance.

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ballsalsa said:

Remember when i was talking about nuance the other day?  It means i can wish for a better source than jimmy dore without saying he doesn't cover relevant topics.

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ballsalsa said:

Also, if the question is why people dont take jimmy dore seriously, i answered it already.  Its because he presents his show as comedy.  Good or bad, thats the deal

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koods said:

Jimmy Dore is a useful idiot for the right. Haven’t you noticed qman posting his videos.

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The Ecstatic said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

The Ecstatic said:

It’s actually the opposite, the low info base loves him, and that’s the problem.  That’s why there’s a lot of people on the right who like Jimmy Dore and Michael Tracey.

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I like Jimmy Dore (I don't know who Michael Tracey is).  Why should I care if people on the right like Jimmy Dore?  I think that's a great thing actually!  This is the kind of hate from the left I keep talking about.  "Jimmy Dore is finding common ground!  I guess he appeals to the low info base."  Maybe, but I'll need to see an example to understand your point.

Then I'll also ask you yet again:  "What example of a 'monumentally bad take' from Jimmy Dore did you give?" And why do you think "the serious people on the left don’t take him seriously"?  If you're going to make this claim, you need to back it up.  And if you feel you've already told me, please tell me again because I missed it. 

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I’m not disagreeing with the prospect of left rhetoric reaching low info voters, im saying we can do better than jimmy Dore.

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ballsalsa said:

...my biggest critique is too much time spent spelling out the subtext.  Just play the clip and then tear it apart.  Let people have a chance to form an opinion before you try to slam your own home.

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Ok, that's a fair point.

But The Ecstatic claimed Jimmy had some "monumentally bad takes" and so I wanted to understand that.  I respect your opinions, and you guys may well be right.  That's why I'm asking for examples.  The Ecstatic also claimed  "the serious people on the left don’t take him seriously", but I do, so I'm waiting for an example of why I shouldn't take him seriously anymore, because you guys could be right.

Again, I understand your point about wishing he should play the clips before commenting on them, but I'm always in agreement with him.  Heck, I often post my opinions before Jimmy does, and he tends to mirror what I say (and vice-versa). 

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Thanks.  Hopefully The Ecstatic explains his positions to me to make me a smarter person.

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