Brian Jones said:

In hunting and gathering societies the women's gathering provided far more calories of food for survival then the men's hunting.

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Rahz said:

Why didn't the men just gather as well?

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In hunting and gathering societies the women's gathering provided far more calories of food for survival then the men's hunting.

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killingravensun said:

. . . humans havent been hunter gatherers for millions of years

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RJ Tubs 202 said:

killingravensun said:

. . . humans havent been hunter gatherers for millions of years

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I don't believe the evidence supports that conclusion. Hunting and gathering has occupied at least 90 percent of human history. BTW, recent archaeological research suggests sexual division of labor was the fundamental organizational innovation that gave Homo sapiens the edge over the Neanderthals.

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RJ Tubs 202 said:

killingravensun said:

. . . humans havent been hunter gatherers for millions of years

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I don't believe the evidence supports that conclusion.

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The collapse of the Classic Maya sites in Guatemala, such as Tikal, was almost certainly due to a combination of factors. A ruling class concerned with constant warfare, deforestation and soil loss, plus a series of droughts beginning in 800 AD, and perhaps peasant rebellions, brought about the collapse of the city-states, one by one, between 700-900 AD. It was followed by an enormous depopulation of the lowland Guatemala area. No doubt many fled to the Yucatan, where water was more reliable, but undoubtedly many perished of malnutrition and were killed during struggles over scarce resources.

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i suggest the movement of the people may have been in response to this event and not just social collapse, many cities were abandoned for unclear reasons which seems suspicious

furthermore, there is some evidence from the climate record that an energetic event occured around the same time, the 'little ice age' in europe was preceeded by a wild fluctuation in temperatures, the chart shows a major cold spell around 784 and then massive warming until around 1000, then the temps fall again for several hundred years

the climate instability could be related to some kind of solar activity, perhaps a super flare or a series of flares, people of the time would not be able to see any difference in the sky from day to day as effects from  flares are mostly invisible except for aurora at the poles



its not a proper theory so dont taze me bro

CountHTML said:

Modern feminism—or much of it, anyway—seems to want to turn women into men. It speaks of subverting the patriarchy while placing primacy on the importance of patriarchal ideals—women ascending in the corporate world, competing directly with men for jobs, etc. This runs contrary to what one would imagine feminism to be; for example the empowerment of the archetypal feminine, which arguably is devalued in modern Western societies.

No one wants to talk about that.

Furthermore a lot of feminists and post-modernists more generally are trying to make the claim that men and women are the same: they are not. There are differences. Obviously. Expecting woman to adhere to male traits or men to become more feminine is a recipe for an epidemic of depression and social collapse.

Nonetheless as human beings we lie to ourselves all the time. “I want a nice guy,” a woman might say. No. You want a hunter, or a man displaying strength and courage and other qualities evolutionarily selected for. Women now take men—the ones who, when necessary, fight and die for them—for granted. Chivalry is about dead. The other day I saw a man hold a door open for a young I-gen women. Her response? A loathsome scowl. I thought, “we’re fucked. This is the mechanics of the collapse of a hollow culture.”

We are a warrior species, apex predators. We’ve lost touch with our power. In the absence of opportunity, ridiculed and vilified, men are checking out and playing video games. Women’s depression rates are skyrocketing. We continue to lie to ourselves about who and what we are in this era of post fact. I dint think nature herself could have ever predicted this. Such a strange predicament.

I think that when we have nothing tangible to worry about—hunting, gathering—we implode into irrational chaos and self-destruction.

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CountHTML said:

I think that when we have nothing tangible to worry about—hunting, gathering—we implode into irrational chaos and self-destruction.

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DividedQuantum said:

CountHTML said:

I think that when we have nothing tangible to worry about—hunting, gathering—we implode into irrational chaos and self-destruction.

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P.S. I think this encapsulates history fairly forcefully.

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