qman said:

Dam, if Mexico can't be a safe haven because it's a "war zone", that means NOT only does the US need to accept all migrants from Central America, the US also needs to accept any of the 127,00,000 Mexicans seeking asylum.

Holy shit, the US is one of the few safe places on the globe today and is now morally obligated to accept hundreds of millions of poor migrants.

This is all very good stuff to know, I'm sure you can sell this concept to the vast majority of the US population.  OK US citizens, your nation is going to become another third world nation because there's no safe place to live in the rest of the world today.

Just one question, where do US citizens go to live when the US becomes a third world shit hole?

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Sulfurshelfsean said:

Bit seriously why should people take their children and seek asylum in the country whose cartels do the majority of human trafficking? That's a ridiculous idea.Alaso, once again, how does that make them economic migrants? How does not wanting to move from one war zone into another make them economic migrants?

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qman said:
This is all very good stuff to know, I'm sure you can sell this concept to the vast majority of the US population.  OK US citizens, your nation is going to become another third world nation because there's no safe place to live in the rest of the world today.

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Sulfurshelfsean said:

You still havent shown a shred of evidence that suggests they are economic migrants and not asylum seekers. There are standards as to what constitutes an asylum seeker here:
https://www.politicalasylumusa.com/application-for-asylum/

And I maintain that bit makes no sense for someone fleeing persecution and violence to go somewhere where there is a higher rate of persecution and violence. And definitely not where human trafficking is through the roof.
Dont get me wrong I understand we only have so many resources and need to take that into account. Im not an "open borders" type of person.

As a side note: if you're fleeing Compton to get away from gang violence, you dont move to Detroit...

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Psilynut2 said:

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qman said:
This is all very good stuff to know, I'm sure you can sell this concept to the vast majority of the US population.  OK US citizens, your nation is going to become another third world nation because there's no safe place to live in the rest of the world today.

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  Simply having people come from a third world country is what will make our country third world ?
  I don’t think that’s how it works , and that sounds racist as  fuck too . I think having a president that thinks  China pays our tariffs is more likely to cause that to happen .

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qman said:

Psilynut2 said:

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qman said:
This is all very good stuff to know, I'm sure you can sell this concept to the vast majority of the US population.  OK US citizens, your nation is going to become another third world nation because there's no safe place to live in the rest of the world today.

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  Simply having people come from a third world country is what will make our country third world ?
  I don’t think that’s how it works , and that sounds racist as  fuck too . I think having a president that thinks  China pays our tariffs is more likely to cause that to happen .

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Even Bernie acknowledges that flooding the US with poor third world migrants would destroy our nation, is he racist as well? 

https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-open-borders-poverty-world-immigration-1388767

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