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Re: My Best Mushroom Substrate/Medium Recipe [Re: StrohngBahd]
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StrohngBahd said:
Probably.  Post it in the artistic thread, we don't need new growers looking for info getting over excessive and bringing in more chances of failure.


lol it’s a little late for that!

And why don’t you need that? For most people fucking up is the best way to learn.

If someone really wants to get it right the first time they will put in the effort to research and get it mostly right the first time.

I guess I am just the type of person to encourage people instead of telling them how dumb they are :shrug:

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Re: My Best Mushroom Substrate/Medium Recipe [Re: san pedro guy]
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san pedro guy said:
Alchemycologist said:
Our goal here is to have as much yield as possible with the best potency in a cost and time efficient manner.



I must have missed that sticky. I thought we could all do what we liked.

I am going to be building a ridiculous fruiting chamber because I like to be creative. Am I going to be hounded if I post it here because it’s not what yall do?


That's completely different than OPs plans.

His goal are maximizing obviously because he's trying to make a super powered mix. What he doesn't realize is the food matters so little compared to the skill and growing conditions. You can't superfood your way out of not knowing shit about growing.
OP is so clueless he thinks the recipe has anything to do with potency lol.
People that do this always seem to morph their reasoning into something like what you're saying about being creative etc.. but it's clear they're trying to boast a way to grow faster and stronger which means ambitions not just having fun trying stuff being creative. Creativity and just happy with whatever i get... that's the opposite of the reasons for making "super powered grows"


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Re: My Best Mushroom Substrate/Medium Recipe [Re: StrohngBahd] * 1
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claims without evidence are works of fiction.

new guy walks into a strongman gym. dudes in this place regularly pulling 700 lbs off the floor. new guy comes in explaining how they could be doing it better. if the new guy can pull 800 off the floor, people might have a reason to listen. if the new guy can only pull 600 off the floor he'll either be ignored, have chalk thrown in his face, or be thrown out, depending on how he was acting.

i can only pull 400 off the floor. it doesn't matter which way i choose, if i'm still making progress. i choose the simpler way.


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Re: My Best Mushroom Substrate/Medium Recipe [Re: J. Jack Flash]
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I said I'll do a grow log soon I'll do 3 boxes of normal medium & 3 of my master recipe. You're just sounding like a bunch of salty kids now on repeat. How is this artistic it's chemistry regardless of growing conditions? You call me the retard for assuming my growing conditions regardless of the fact this is strictly a recipe.

I agree with Pedro fucking up is a great way to learn. Stop being a bunch of settled normies & play around. See what you can make happen, It's an inexpensive hobby regardless. Also, I never said anything about potency increases to the guy that misread what I said. I said consistent potency get it right.

Wobbly Synergy or Peak Consistency?

Cellular intelligence deserves cellular intelligent horticultural grade skills & respect.

I'll make a grow log thread soon.

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Re: My Best Mushroom Substrate/Medium Recipe [Re: Swizzer]
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Quote:
Expect Healthy Aggressive Growth, Satisfying Yields & Consistent Potency


Consistency means the same. You wouldn't want consistently mediocre potency right? That's how i know you meant great potency.
Especially when your other adjectives are satisfying and aggressive


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Re: My Best Mushroom Substrate/Medium Recipe [Re: bodhisatta]
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I'm pretty sure consistent means best average potency not increased potency.

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Re: My Best Mushroom Substrate/Medium Recipe [Re: Swizzer]
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And if i have a culture that has exhibited slow weak growth, poor yields, and mediocre potency. This media somehow changes that ?

Nope


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Re: My Best Mushroom Substrate/Medium Recipe [Re: bodhisatta]
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Re: My Best Mushroom Substrate/Medium Recipe [Re: Swizzer]
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I have an actual question about your recipe.

You say it's meant as a bulk sub recipe but it has lots of ingredients that
require sterilizing vs. pasteurizing. You intend for this to be done
like muda bottles or in a tub or what?

Pro tip, when posting threads like this, it's best to have a completed grow
to post along side that you did using your tek. Had you posted some full
canopies people may not have dissed you so hard. Next time just wait til
you have pics becore making the thread to back it all up.


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Re: My Best Mushroom Substrate/Medium Recipe [Re: natedawgnow]
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This has been fun to read :kittylaugh:

U got dissed so had bc the mush cult forum is a forum on grown actives mushies only. Mostly cubes... Ur recipe might work ok for other mushies :shrug: but most of us grow lotsa cubes here. And like everyone else said why make it more complicated when u can get great results with just grains coir and water. U haven't answered that part yet. For me even if u did post canopy picks with ur recipe it still wouldn't make me change anything bc I get canopies with only one ingredient instead of 10.


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Re: My Best Mushroom Substrate/Medium Recipe [Re: Apc123]
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Apc123 said:
bc I get canopies with only one ingredient instead of 10.


truth

and that one ingredient doesnt need to be pasteurized or sterilized. win win:awedance:


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Re: My Best Mushroom Substrate/Medium Recipe [Re: san pedro guy]
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san pedro guy said:
StrohngBahd said:
Probably.  Post it in the artistic thread, we don't need new growers looking for info getting over excessive and bringing in more chances of failure.


lol it’s a little late for that!

And why don’t you need that? For most people fucking up is the best way to learn.

If someone really wants to get it right the first time they will put in the effort to research and get it mostly right the first time.

I guess I am just the type of person to encourage people instead of telling them how dumb they are :shrug:


What you're saying is totally circumstantial. It could go either way. Every week new growers without any successes make over complicated misting and fanning tubs with timers, humidifiers and all that jazz; thinking it will make growing easier. Those get shit on every time.

Now if you rigged up a tub based on current practices but you tried it in a different way somehow (like Tiger's Hybrid SGFC/Mono or Mateah's HC) and you've shown you know a thing or two about growing; that's a whole different ball game and people will be more inclined to consider what you're doing seriously.


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Re: My Best Mushroom Substrate/Medium Recipe [Re: bodhisatta]
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bodhisatta said:
Quote:
Expect Healthy Aggressive Growth, Satisfying Yields & Consistent Potency


Consistency means the same. You wouldn't want consistently mediocre potency right? That's how i know you meant great potency.
Especially when your other adjectives are satisfying and aggressive


:liottalol:


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Re: My Best Mushroom Substrate/Medium Recipe [Re: Apc123]
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So even if he posted his recipe and results showing he did some killer
grows with it, you'd still flame him?

Why are people on this site such cocky bastards haha? Following the dogma
of others gets old. OP came off pretty cocky as well in the first post but
this is a hobby and if op wants to waste time and energy so be it, noobs
don't have to listen to it and if they do, so what? Move on to something
else if it fails.

This forum would be way more boring than it is if people only posted
coir grows and nothing of novel methodology. Just sayin for the people that
have been here years, it gets old seeing the same shit repeated everyday on
the main page. Ever notice how great growers don't come around much anymore
and if they do they stay in journal land?

The hive mind mentality is strong in this forum.


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Re: My Best Mushroom Substrate/Medium Recipe [Re: natedawgnow] * 2
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Come on nate lol

Unmodified lids(pasty)
Unmodified tubs(me but it's been done but is against current dogma)
Non filtered lids for agar/media bottle use
Pastyplates
Fae vs RH
Micropore dialed monos
Bottle teks
Over clocking a pressure cooker to make it quiet and lose less water
Shoebox technology improvement
Josex's needle biopsy methods for LC and tissue culture
Violets grain petri(which no one talked shit about)
Look at all the blender LC LI stuff we have. 4 years ago LC and LI were very frowned on any way they were done
I'm talking about growing in terms of growing conditions and tossing the notion of fruiting and colonizing conditions. Azur i believe made the first thread on that. But he also pushed this mentality you have about this place too lol.

Etc.. thats just what i thought of in a minute

Thing is a not a lot of novelty is really left all the easily thought of things have been done.

Rarely something really novel comes along. Pasty just did the blue towel thing

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25638606





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Re: My Best Mushroom Substrate/Medium Recipe [Re: bodhisatta]
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bodhisatta said:
Come on nate lol

Unmodified lids(pasty)
Unmodified tubs(me but it's been done but is against current dogma)
Non filtered lids for agar/media bottle use
Fae vs RH
Micropore dialed monos
Bottle teks
Over clocking a pressure cooker to make it quiet and lose less water
Shoebox technology improvement
Josex's needle biopsy methods for LC and tissue culture
Violets grain petri(which no one talked shit about)
Look at all the blender LC LI stuff we have. 4 years ago LC and LI were very frowned on any way they were done

Etc.. thats just what i thought of in a minute


Damn near everything you listed is old shit.

Unmodded tubs were around way before you wrote a tek about it.
Terrence mckenna wrote the book on bottle grows 30 yrs ago.
putting weights on your pc is something people were doing 10yrs go.
Shoeboxes are old news peeps been doing them in GHs forever.
Fruiting at spawning was the norm 15 years ago as I understand it.
The fact you even brought up Violet just shows your intellectual dishonesty
concerning this topic :lol: She doesnt come around anymore cause of constant flaming.

The only true innovations you listed are violets dishes, josexs poke and
pastys work.

I know you and I never quite see eye to eye, bod, but you know as well as I
do that this place is a parrot exhibit a lot of the time :lol:


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Re: My Best Mushroom Substrate/Medium Recipe [Re: natedawgnow]
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Does it not teach thousands of people a year exactly what they want to know and very quickly and efficiently? I get dozens of messages a week from people saying thanks. Sometimes it's things like helping a lady get her husband doses of cubes for cluster headaches to people from the military treating their ptsd or their family members doing it. Maybe there's a little dogma but we're not trying to be mycotopia or similar and pat people on the back for trying shit methods or compiling contraptions that wont work. People do have a goal if they come here and post in cultivation. I have a dozen employees and some temps. It's hard to teach people who know everything. Sometimes a lesson in humility is what people need to get on the right track. Maybe it's not our jobs but im usually hell bent on making people successful.


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Re: My Best Mushroom Substrate/Medium Recipe [Re: bodhisatta]
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I agree dude I honestly do. A buddy I gave some PE to last week told me that
they basically cured his social anxiety and depression caused by previous trauma.
I also had a small business in tejas selling gourmets as well as extracts
to small businesses and private buyers. I owe all I know to this community.

I'm just sayin, this is a forum for people to practice and learn about a hobby.
If you make it so people are scared to post what they are doing for fear
of being flamed by the peanut gallery, then how is this a fun hobby and welcoming community?
When noobs do post those crazy contraptions the  common reaction
I see on here is to call it stupid and them a dunce. Happens all the time.

OP should have posted pics to go along with the recipe, definitely agree there.
I'm actually interested in seeing how they use that recipe cause it
is way over the top and needs to be sterilized so ya.


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Re: My Best Mushroom Substrate/Medium Recipe [Re: bodhisatta]
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bodhisatta said:
Does it not teach thousands of people a year exactly what they want to know and very quickly and efficiently? I get dozens of messages a week from people saying thanks. Sometimes it's things like helping a lady get her husband doses of cubes for cluster headaches to people from the military treating their ptsd or their family members doing it. Maybe there's a little dogma but we're not trying to be mycotopia or similar and pat people on the back for trying shit methods or compiling contraptions that wont work. People do have a goal if they come here and post in cultivation. I have a dozen employees and some temps. It's hard to teach people who know everything. Sometimes a lesson in humility is what people need to get on the right track. Maybe it's not our jobs but im usually hell bent on making people successful.


Do you have a new grower success rate? It's my understanding around 90% of new growers give up before ever getting a single fruit.


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Re: My Best Mushroom Substrate/Medium Recipe [Re: Professor X]
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I get posts like this every day

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25983422#25983422


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