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mushroom Researcher Computer Program
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OK I'm writing a database program to track and research mushroom growth called "Researcher". the final version will be free and available to the public. and I want YOUR input. (whoever you are) which do you think would be better. a stand alone mushroom researcher program that runs on YOUR computer where other people can't look at your data but you can send copies of your data to people you know. who could then open the program with there copy of Researcher... OR a webpage based Researcher program where everyone can share there data in one HUGE reference,(would require login ID's just like this message board). but it could run the risk of the "good guys" getting ahold of that information and later trying to use it against you?

either version will have the abilities to compare yields in graphical forms via cake tek terrarium tek. along with collinization times, recipes, etc. and will be preloaded with most popular teks off of the shroomery and other such sites.

oh and it'll be for PC only, but I'll give the source to all you linux and (gasp) mac people.


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Re: mushroom Researcher Computer Program [Re: SWiTtles]
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what about both?
Because I think that not everyone wants to share there info over the net,but allot will be happy to do just that.

So i think both of the possibility's would be great.

Keep on going your doing a great job!

Edited by paddo (03/21/02 02:10 PM)

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Re: mushroom Researcher Computer Program [Re: paddo]
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That sounds like the best idea, but probably the most labor-intensive.

What about a small client (local) that compiles your own data and, if the user wants, can access the public db through the net. Then you may not even need to create web pages. You could simply write your own protocol that would let the clients talk with your server. No fussy graphics to download -- it's all on the client.

You can minimize tracking of personal data by not logging IP addresses, street addresses, emails, etc. You could go solely by login_id or by login_name. That would be about as anonymous as you could get that way.

Sounds neat.

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Re: mushroom Researcher Computer Program [Re: SWiTtles]
    #585459 -

I think stand alone would be great, with the ability to export your data... And maybe password protect it too. Graphs would be a plus, and maybe even a journal for your procedure and stuff. Just some ideas :smile:


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Re: mushroom Researcher Computer Program [Re: SWiTtles]
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Are you planning on having categories for substrate / casing types?
or
How will you log the recipes for substrates / casings?

Might also be good to include container (jar, bag, bucket) info, and TEK types (cakes or cased) for those who wish to compare.

And ya gotta log the strain type!

Good luck!

--YH

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Re: mushroom Researcher Computer Program [Re: SWiTtles]
    #585957 -

Excellent idea! I look forward to using it. My thoughts:

a. lots of places for dates (innoc, full col, birth, casing, pin initiation, harvest date for each flush, etc.)
b. make it picture friendly - allow the recording of visual data as well as textual.

good luck! i'm root'n for you!

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Re: mushroom Researcher Computer Program [Re: SWiTtles]
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This sounds like a very exciting program. As far as your question: I look at this totaly from a legal perspective. For the same reason that warez sites are almost impossible to fine now, yet a file sharing browser (ex: Lime Wire, Bear Share etc) can fine a ton of copyrighted files... I say go with a peer to peer system. I would totaly advoid any public website use due to the ease of useing the information against someone. For example: Private email has some laws (USA) protecting it's use. Web Sites are considered public places (at least legaly speaking) and are much easier to bust. Lets keep in mind that what your sugesting is a total record of what could be ileagle. Pics on a public site like this is pusing it far enough I feel.

(just a layman's opinion)


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Re: mushroom Researcher Computer Program [Re: SWiTtles]
    #586118 -

Why not add other substrates than brf.
i like the idea, but i dont think i'll be using any

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Re: mushroom Researcher Computer Program [Re: SWiTtles]
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Sounds like an excellent idea switles. I am going to have to come over on sunday and see what it looks like so far. Keep up the good work.


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Re: mushroom Researcher Computer Program [Re: SWiTtles]
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the one thing is if I do let it upload to a website. I can't afford to pay to host it.


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Re: mushroom Researcher Computer Program [Re: SWiTtles]
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I admire your dedication and ambition. I would suggest doing both. Growing mushrooms isn?t illegal, and growing mushrooms that contain Psilocin/Psilocybin isn?t illegal everywhere. So if you do both, it will suit everyone?s research.

I hope everyone?s positive input will help you make a final decision.

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Re: mushroom Researcher Computer Program [Re: SWiTtles]
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Hi,
Do you think this can help?

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Forum3&Number=522883&page=0&view=&sb=&o=&fpart=1&vc=1&PHPSESSID=

Lana


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Re: mushroom Researcher Computer Program [Re: Lana]
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bump


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Re: mushroom Researcher Computer Program [Re: Lana]
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sweet program idea. thanks for the link. I'm almost decided on how I'm gonna start the project. I need to pick up some reference material before I start. hopefully I'll have something to show off soon.


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Re: mushroom Researcher Computer Program [Re: SWiTtles]
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I don't suppose anyone has an spare newish visual basic, access 2000, asp, or php programming books???


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Re: mushroom Researcher Computer Program [Re: SWiTtles]
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So, any updates to your mushroom program SWiTtles??

Lana


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Re: mushroom Researcher Computer Program [Re: SWiTtles]
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In reply to:

oh and it'll be for PC only, but I'll give the source to all you linux and (gasp) mac people.



Gasp! Oh no, I guess I can't run it then because I have a mac.

Ironic that. Apple is the one company that has roots in mushrooms and psychedelics.

Better be careful. Windoze XP now scans your programs for illegal content and emails the source to the DEA. Its a new "feature".

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Re: mushroom Researcher Computer Program [Re: dirk gently]
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In reply to:

Windoze XP now scans your programs for illegal content and emails the source to the DEA. Its a new "feature".


WTF! is that true??????????


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Re: mushroom Researcher Computer Program [Re: SWiTtles]
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hmmmmm, I actually have this VB 4.0 book that I bought about two years ago and it's just collecting dust in my closet........... however its pretty big, it might be expensive to ship. I could look in it if you have a specific question. Otherwise, they're usually on sale for like 20 bucks at barnes & noble.

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Re: mushroom Researcher Computer Program [Re: dirk gently]
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1st off. windows isn't "smart" enough to know what is legal and what is not. besides microsoft has bigger things to work on that will make them money. do you even realize how much data would be trafficed if windows did monitor and send that stuff out?

Macs are cute little girly computers. actaully you may be able to run this data base prog on your mac. I may do it in PHP (open source *whoot*) and have it be a webpage style setup. and exactly what do you define as "roots" it's not like an apple 2E came with a free glass bong.

BTW: yes Jobs and Waz were hippie computer nerd stoners back in the day but so was Gates, well stoner not a hippie. They are traitors now. Jobs and gates are evil corprate sons of a bitches.

Lana--- I have been really busy with finals, girlfriend, and "cooking" some rice cakes. haven't had time to sit down and work on it. hopefully soon though. the actuall database structure is done I just need to write the interface


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Re: mushroom Researcher Computer Program [Re: SWiTtles]
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Of course I was joking about XP. But the fact that a few people believed me should tell you something about microsoft's progression towards becoming Big Brother. You may still have some privacy, but its getting compromised a little more with each new OS from Mr. Gates.

I'll stay away from a full blown platform war here. I've seen them before and its just too boring to watch after a while. I'll just sit here with my cute, girly mac and you can sit there with your omnipotent, manly, biege....err,... box?

hey, maybe you'll get extra credit for this program in your computer sciences 101 class. good luck


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Re: mushroom Researcher Computer Program [Re: dirk gently]
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fucking microsoft

if i never return you all know why.. that damn bill gates

"you said windows 98 would run faster and crash less often" - the general
"it is faster.. over 3000 " *POW* bill gates is dead

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Re: mushroom Researcher Computer Program [Re: SWiTtles]
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I suggest that you use Java, MySQL, and other free tools that work on multiple platforms.
With VB, access and similar shit, you just support Microsoft. Fuck corporations - use linux!

If you need any help, PM me.

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Re: mushroom Researcher Computer Program [Re: SWiTtles]
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Sourceforge (http://sourceforge.net/) can host your project if you intend to publish it under OpenSource or GNU or similar license.
Since I was planning to do something similar we should join our forces to make a better thing. It would be a good idea to publish your database definition before you start coding, so other experienced cultivators can make suggestions about it.

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Re: mushroom Researcher Computer Program [Re: SWiTtles]
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Hey man. I have an extra "Programming with Visual Basic 6.0" Book that I would happily trade for some spores or something. I'm on AIM as stewdude420. Or Email me. Just let me know.


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Re: mushroom Researcher Computer Program [Re: SWiTtles]
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Just looking if this has been done. So many Iders have came to mind.


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Re: mushroom Researcher Computer Program [Re: KickingASS]
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KickingASS said:
Just looking if this has been done. So many Iders have came to mind.


You know this thread died long ago to legally drink alcohol.


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