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Joining an Islamic forum * 3
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I have joined a couple in order to observe and talk about how Muslims feel about certain issues in America/Europe.

Such issues as gay rights, women's rights, Christianity, apostates, Sharia law, missionary work, jihad, and so forth.

Many people think Islam is very compatible with Western values. Is it?

I am going to find out.



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TRUMP 2020

Edited by XUL (04/17/19 02:09 PM)

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Re: Joining an Islamic forum [Re: XUL]
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Wow. Interesting idea. What did you make you name to be?


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I didn't draw this.

"Hope your day is as wonderful, loving, and kind as you are."
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Re: Joining an Islamic forum [Re: life is good]
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I can't tell.

If I say the wrong things, these mates might come after me.

From what I understand, even drawing Muhammed can warrant death or severe punishment according to the Hadith, select phrases from Muhammed.

I'm not arguing with them in there. I am just asking questions and being neutral.


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TRUMP 2020

Edited by XUL (04/17/19 02:43 PM)

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Re: Joining an Islamic forum [Re: life is good]
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Although I will report back with links for the answers they state.

You won't be able to tell who I am. I will fit in.


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Edited by XUL (04/17/19 03:11 PM)

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Re: Joining an Islamic forum [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
Many people think Islam is very compatible with Western values. Is it?

I am going to find out.


I dont think fundamental Islam, which strictly goes by the book, is compatible with Western values. That being said, many Muslims are not fundamentalists and do not go strictly by the book, in the same way many modern Christians ignore certain passages of the Bible (such as sex before marriage, anti-gay, etc).

One thing you should keep in mind when reading that forum is that the type of Muslim who is willing to take time out of their day and discuss Islam on an internet forum is going to be on the more religious and strict side, most likely, as opposed to the Americanized liberal Muslim teen who cares more about getting into a relationship and passing their classes, and whose main connection to islam at this point is simply believing in god and some basic ethical principles. aka it might not be the most balanced sample

what forum is this anyways? id be interested in looking at it

Edited by Mental Slavery (04/17/19 04:11 PM)

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Re: Joining an Islamic forum [Re: Mental Slavery]
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I'll make sure to get the opinions of Muslims who live in the western world, as many muslims on these forums do. I will also get the opinions of non-western Muslims.

With that said, it will be balanced.

I won't share the several forum names until my work is done.


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Edited by XUL (04/17/19 04:19 PM)

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Re: Joining an Islamic forum [Re: XUL]
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alrighty

do you have a personal stake in this inquiry?


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And I am a mad barking dog

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Edited by Mental Slavery (04/17/19 04:39 PM)

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Re: Joining an Islamic forum [Re: Mental Slavery]
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Not on Islamic forums. I won't be speaking out in protest, but simply bringing back answers.


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Re: Joining an Islamic forum [Re: XUL] * 2
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Maybe it would be worth going to a christian forum and seeing how their values pan out with western ones. Fundamentalist christians are almost indiscernible from fundamentalist muslims.

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Re: Joining an Islamic forum [Re: XUL]
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I think that's a very constructive thing for you to do, Xul. Incidentally, there are well over 3 million people in the U.S. who identify as practicing Muslims, so I sense a compatibility with the West. Of course, these are usually well educated people, for what that's worth.


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Re: Joining an Islamic forum [Re: DividedQuantum]
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Can't they do something else with their lives?

There's singing, fishing, etc.


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Re: Joining an Islamic forum [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
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DividedQuantum said:
I think that's a very constructive thing for you to do, Xul.


Your judgement, or at least your definition of 'constructive', is most intriguing. :thumbup:

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Re: Joining an Islamic forum [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
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What is the alternative?

Ignorance?

Speculation?

Why not find some real life testimonials?

Are you scared of what they may say?


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Re: Joining an Islamic forum [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
Why not find some real life testimonials?



Indeed.

That has been the very proposition put forth to you several times in the past in relation to your supposed studies, in a bid to rule out anonymous Internet folly.

That question then, is yours to answer.  :thumbup:

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Re: Joining an Islamic forum [Re: XUL]
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Dealing with religious folk is beating a dead horse. I grew up Southern Baptist. When my brother got baptized at age 10...I at age 8 accused him of selling out for attention. The religion is not important...they are all the same. They want to be to be told what to do by authority because they have no concept of free will. They also are not inclined to change their mind....hate and separation are their currency.


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Re: Joining an Islamic forum [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Huehuecoyotl said:
Dealing with religious folk is beating a dead horse. I grew up Southern Baptist. When my brother got baptized at age 10...I at age 8 accused him of selling out for attention. The religion is not important...they are all the same. They want to be to be told what to do by authority because they have no concept of free will. They also are not inclined to change their mind....hate and separation are their currency.


You probably mean that the people you have encountered have been that way.

Others, will perhaps take into regard each specific religion and each person subjectively, lest they would be standing as people themselves promoting separation and hate through closed-mindedness and blanket statements...

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Re: Joining an Islamic forum [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
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i think its a good idea, would love to hear how its going

Duncan Rowhl said:
Huehuecoyotl said:
...hate and separation are their currency.


You probably mean that the people you have encountered have been that way.



nope, religions are by definition xenophobic, they pronounce a class of human to be more godlike than all other classes, religion is the cornerstone of racism, religious people are by default racists, irrefutable truth


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Re: Joining an Islamic forum [Re: killingravensun]
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Thank you for standing as a superb example to my point.

What a bleak religion you follow.  :thumbup:

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Re: Joining an Islamic forum [Re: Duncan Rowhl] * 1
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ah, but am i wrong?

christians worship a white guy

muslims worship a persian

buddhists worship an asian

jews just think all jews are gods chosen

so yeah, religion is cover for being an ignorant xenophobe

go ahead, prove me wrong, this should be fun


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evil always wins, good can only do good, evil will lie and cheat until it fools good into doing evil

freedom is the ability to take wrong action, right actions are constrained by nature

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Re: Joining an Islamic forum [Re: killingravensun]
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killingravensun said:
ah, but am i wrong?

christians worship a white guy

muslims worship a persian

buddhists worship an asian

jews just think all jews are gods chosen

so yeah, religion is cover for being an ignorant xenophobe

go ahead, prove me wrong, this should be fun


I can only extend my thanks for you being absolutely wrong and an ongoing example which demonstrates my point perfectly.

'Ignorance' indeed! :thumbup:

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