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Re: Ford v Kavanaugh [Re: koods]
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Yeah, even this lady Lynn Brookes, who is a registered Republican and knew Kavanaugh at Yale is saying that he lied.

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/News/kavanaugh-lied-fox-news-interview-drank-excess-frequently/story?id=58143025

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Re: Ford v Kavanaugh [Re: waves]
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She wasn't there.

Try finding some information that isn't hearsay.


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Re: Ford v Kavanaugh [Re: XUL] * 1
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wasn't where?

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Re: Ford v Kavanaugh [Re: XUL] * 1
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XUL said:
She wasn't there.

Try finding some information that isn't hearsay.


I didn't claim she was, neither did she.

Did you even read the article?

She is saying that Kavanaugh lied about his drinking habits.

She says very clearly that she never saw him commit a sexual assault.

She does say that she believes the second accuser, Debbie Ramirez, though.

She says she wasn't at the party in question, but has no reason to believe Ramirez would make it up.





So here is a Republican woman, saying that Kavanaugh for sure lied during his hearing..

She must just be part of the Democratic conspiracy, though

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Re: Ford v Kavanaugh [Re: waves]
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It's not that he "lied" about his "drinking habits", it's just a matter of OPINION.

I know people that think anymore than 2 drinks is getting drunk, I also know people that drink over 10 drinks and think it's not that much. 

Who has been actually counting his drinks and using a specific criteria for what constitutes "excessive drinking"?

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Re: Ford v Kavanaugh [Re: qman] * 2
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qman said:
It's not that he "lied" about his "drinking habits", it's just a matter of OPINION.

I know people that think anymore than 2 drinks is getting drunk, I also know people that drink over 10 drinks and think it's not that much. 

Who has been actually counting his drinks and using a specific criteria for what constitutes "excessive drinking"?


According his roommate at Yale, their shared bathroom was always covered in vomit.

I think if you are throwing up regularly, that is considered excessive by any measure.

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Re: Ford v Kavanaugh [Re: waves]
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Hearsay.


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Re: Ford v Kavanaugh [Re: qman]
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/many-women-line-support-kavanaugh-pick-162818076--politics.html

https://www.apnews.com/7ec2e072ad774ce392c414354ff21dac/Many-women-line-up-in-support-of-Kavanaugh

It's usually women that are highly suspicious of other women.

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Re: Ford v Kavanaugh [Re: qman]
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qman said:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/many-women-line-support-kavanaugh-pick-162818076--politics.html

https://www.apnews.com/7ec2e072ad774ce392c414354ff21dac/Many-women-line-up-in-support-of-Kavanaugh

It's usually women that are highly suspicious of other women.


What, do you expect him to have attempted to rape every woman he knows?

Of course some women are going to think he is a great guy.

Not particularly surprising.

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Re: Ford v Kavanaugh [Re: XUL] * 2
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XUL said:
Hearsay.


You need to look up words before you use them.


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Re: Ford v Kavanaugh [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
XUL said:
Hearsay.


You need to look up words before you use them.


Do you believe someone claiming that a college bathroom was filled with vomit is objective evidence?

Quote:
information received from other people that one cannot adequately substantiate; rumor.
"according to hearsay, Bob had managed to break his arm"
synonyms: rumor, gossip, tittle-tattle,



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Re: Ford v Kavanaugh [Re: XUL]
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Yes,  it's objective evidence,  and it's not hearsay.


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Re: Ford v Kavanaugh [Re: waves]
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waves said:
qman said:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/many-women-line-support-kavanaugh-pick-162818076--politics.html

https://www.apnews.com/7ec2e072ad774ce392c414354ff21dac/Many-women-line-up-in-support-of-Kavanaugh

It's usually women that are highly suspicious of other women.


What, do you expect him to have attempted to rape every woman he knows?

Of course some women are going to think he is a great guy.

Not particularly surprising.


You didn't read the link, women who never meet Kavanaugh find the allegations highly suspicious and that he should also be protected against those allegations.

Many people still believe in our form of justice- innocent until proven guilty, not a witch hunt.

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Re: Ford v Kavanaugh [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
Yes,  it's objective evidence,  and it's not hearsay.


No it isn't.

I would recommend you look up objective evidence.


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Re: Ford v Kavanaugh [Re: XUL]
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Lol, okay. Deny reality.


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Re: Ford v Kavanaugh [Re: Enlil]
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I guess you're some kind of lawyer.

You can't tell the difference between hearsay and a piece of objective evidence that is measurable and observable.


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Re: Ford v Kavanaugh [Re: XUL] * 2
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Hearsay isn't mutually exclusive to objective. The observation of vomit is objective evidence. It's not hearsay if someone claims that he or she observed vomit.

That's all the time i'm going to spend explaining the obvious to the unworthy.


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Re: Ford v Kavanaugh [Re: XUL]
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I hadn't seen this one yet:

Liz Swisher, another Yale classmate, says that she never saw Kavanaugh act in a sexually aggressive manner, but that he did lie about his drinking.

"He definitely was a sloppy drunk"

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/09/29/liz-swisher-yale-classmate-sloppy-drunk-bts-cuomo-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/reaction-to-brett-kavanaugh-allegation/

I can't even keep track of all the Yale classmates alleging he lied during the hearing anymore

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Re: Ford v Kavanaugh [Re: Enlil]
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Someone claiming there was vomit years ago is not objective evidence. There is no proof or record of it.


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Re: Ford v Kavanaugh [Re: XUL] * 1
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Quote:
hear·say
noun

information received from other people that one cannot adequately substantiate; rumor.

"according to hearsay, Bob had managed to break his arm"

synonyms:rumor, gossip, tittle-tattle, idle talk; More
       
Law
the report of another person's words by a witness, usually disallowed as evidence in a court of law.
"everything they had told him would have been ruled out as hearsay"


If his Yale roommate said in court "I heard somebody say that the bathroom was covered in vomit all the time", THAT would be hearsay.

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