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Re: Michael Cohen Forced to Reveal His Mystery Client Is Sean Hannity [Re: SirTripAlot]
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SirTripAlot said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Bernie has been in Government a long time, but I wouldn't consider him establishment.


Even when he endorsed Hillary?


He didn't endorse Hillary until AFTER he lost to her.  I don't know why everyone always overlooks this.

Yes, Hillary is clearly establishment, but once Bernie lost to her, that gave Bernie the best shot of having a bit of influence with her had she won.


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Re: Michael Cohen Forced to Reveal His Mystery Client Is Sean Hannity [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
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Bernie already gets blamed for Hillarys loss.

Imagine if he denounced her and split the Dem vote by running 3rd party.

Suburban wine moms would be calling for his head.


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Re: Michael Cohen Forced to Reveal His Mystery Client Is Sean Hannity [Re: The Ecstatic]
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SirTripAlot said:
I was answering his question, Trump is the most anti-establishment president the US elected.....Im not saying it's a good thing, but I believe it to be fact. Why do you think he got elected? He took on both parties....can you name a more anti establishment prez then him?


He won thanks to the executive branch/establishment. He lost the popular vote by millions. I still don't see how he's anti establishment whatsoever :shrug:

Name a single thing he has done so far that is "anti establishment".

:waitingpatiently:


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Re: Michael Cohen Forced to Reveal His Mystery Client Is Sean Hannity [Re: musiclover420]
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Wow look how anti establishment the Trump admin is:

https://thinkprogress.org/fox-news-blacks-out-mick-mulvaneys-admission-that-he-sold-access-to-lobbyists-7e676e43f3d1/

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Last night the New York Times reported Mick Mulvaney, who simultaneously holds two top positions in the Trump administration, admitted to a group of bankers that, as a Congressman, he sold access to lobbyists.

“We had a hierarchy in my office in Congress. If you’re a lobbyist who never gave us money, I didn’t talk to you. If you’re a lobbyist who gave us money, I might talk to you,” Mulvaney said.


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It was a startling admission of pay-to-play from a top official in an administration that famously pledged to “drain the swamp.” Mulvaney serves both as Director of the Office of Management and Budget and the interim head of the Consumer Finance Protection Bureau.

In his role at the CFPB, Mulvaney has significant regulatory power over the bankers in the room. His message was that for industry to gain an audience with him, they would need to pony up.




:goodluckwiththat2:


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Re: Michael Cohen Forced to Reveal His Mystery Client Is Sean Hannity [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
krypto2000 said:
Anti-establisment could mean either being established, such as a senator, or following the status quo of the existing establishment. Trump was not established in the first sense, but he is very much so in the second. The second is the far more important one in practice, the first is really in name only; it's like voting someone based on race, gender, or hair style without any regard to their actual policies, why would you care about that?

edit: And besides that, the biggest problem with "the establishment" most seem to agree, both sides, is that they curtail to corporations and the wealthy more and more. In that sense Trump isn't just part of the establishment he is the establishment.


Trump admitted that fact and called out all of the sins of being in The Establishment, you're missing that significant fact in your final analysis, why is that?


Because it doesn't matter does it? If I kick dogs but say "kicking dogs is bad, I'm not going to kick dogs" does that somehow sway your opinion into thinking I'd be a good dog catcher?

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Re: Michael Cohen Forced to Reveal His Mystery Client Is Sean Hannity [Re: krypto2000]
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Trump is the most establishment president we've had in decades because he is so ignorant about his job he has to rely on establishment flunkies to run his government


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Re: Michael Cohen Forced to Reveal His Mystery Client Is Sean Hannity [Re: koods]
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Funny that the conversation somehow got onto Bernie

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Re: Michael Cohen Forced to Reveal His Mystery Client Is Sean Hannity [Re: koods]
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50mmprime said:
Funny that the conversation somehow got onto Bernie


It's funny at first but it gets old real fast.

Literally every Trump related story turns into "but hillary/dems ______" for at least a bit.

Though I like to think that means it's becoming harder and harder to defend Trump without stooping to "whataboutism"...


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Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky

You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free


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Re: Michael Cohen Forced to Reveal His Mystery Client Is Sean Hannity [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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I am aware that he did after, my friend. But that's the thing, it would have been a stronger anti establishment position if he didn't. That and a much stronger response to the establishment DNC that worked to discredit him...... because he was more anti-establishment!


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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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Re: Michael Cohen Forced to Reveal His Mystery Client Is Sean Hannity [Re: musiclover420] * 1
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Literally every Trump related story turns into "but hillary/dems ______"



:blah: . . . :peace:


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Re: Michael Cohen Forced to Reveal His Mystery Client Is Sean Hannity [Re: musiclover420]
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musiclover420 said:
SirTripAlot said:
I was answering his question, Trump is the most anti-establishment president the US elected.....Im not saying it's a good thing, but I believe it to be fact. Why do you think he got elected? He took on both parties....can you name a more anti establishment prez then him?


He won thanks to the executive branch/establishment. He lost the popular vote by millions. I still don't see how he's anti establishment whatsoever :shrug:

Name a single thing he has done so far that is "anti establishment".

:waitingpatiently:


What does losing the popular vote have anything to do with being anti-establishment? You saying that he lost the popular vote because he was establishment? Or vice versa?
Against Clinton? Lol

Between the two, who is more Anti Establishment, Hillary or Trump?

Things he has done?
How he communicates....his stupid tweets.
The government officials that either are fired or resign in droves.

I am not saying these are good things. There never has been an executive like this.


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“I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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Re: Michael Cohen Forced to Reveal His Mystery Client Is Sean Hannity [Re: SirTripAlot]
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What does losing the popular vote have anything to do with being anti-establishment? You saying that he lost the popular vote because he was establishment? Or vice versa?



From my understanding establishment = current politicians in power protecting the status quo. The popular vote seems like a better reflection of what the people want, and the executive branch seems more pro establishment.

If trump was truly "anti establishment" I'd think it would be the opposite, he'd win the popular vote and do worse with the executive branch. I could be wrong about that though.

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Between the two, who is more Anti Establishment, Hillary or Trump?



Seems very subjective. Hillary obviously has older ties to politics, but trump actually donated to Hillary and other dems for years prior to running as an R. Trump has also appointed a lot of people that seem "pro establishment". So it's hard to say.

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The government officials that either are fired or resign in droves.



Many of those have been Trump appointee's so that doesn't really mean much. If anything it's further evidence that he does no hire "the best people" like he has claimed :lol:


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Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky

You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free


Edited by musiclover420 (04/25/18 03:54 PM)

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Re: Michael Cohen Forced to Reveal His Mystery Client Is Sean Hannity [Re: musiclover420]
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Re: Michael Cohen Forced to Reveal His Mystery Client Is Sean Hannity [Re: musiclover420]
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Trump had to fight the gop establishment to get the nomination. The dems were helping him on the sidelines because hill thought he would be the easiest one to beat. GOP tried desperately to derail him but failed. She had the grab 'em tape which she thought would sink a battleship let alone trump.

Saying the reported popular vote makes him establishment? That is one of the silliest things I've heard yet. First of all, the pop vote was manipulated with ballot stuffing and electronic machine sabotage, plus many many illegals voting. All of which has been documented and should be prosecuted along with hillary.

The final proof is the fact the corporate controlled msm has been against him ever since the beginning. They have been in a frenzy and this tells you what the elites who control all that think of trump.


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Re: Michael Cohen Forced to Reveal His Mystery Client Is Sean Hannity [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said:
the pop vote was manipulated with ballot stuffing and electronic machine sabotage, plus many many illegals voting. All of which has been documented and should be prosecuted along with hillary.


The king of make believe strikes again... without evidence, of course.


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Re: Michael Cohen Forced to Reveal His Mystery Client Is Sean Hannity [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Stonehenge said:
the pop vote was manipulated with ballot stuffing and electronic machine sabotage, plus many many illegals voting. All of which has been documented and should be prosecuted along with hillary.


The king of make believe strikes again... without evidence, of course.


I believe the other King of make believe had that number at over 3 million illegals, of course his blue ribbon panel was broken up without finding any proof.

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Re: Michael Cohen Forced to Reveal His Mystery Client Is Sean Hannity [Re: sweeper54]
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sweeper54 said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Stonehenge said:
the pop vote was manipulated with ballot stuffing and electronic machine sabotage, plus many many illegals voting. All of which has been documented and should be prosecuted along with hillary.


The king of make believe strikes again... without evidence, of course.


I believe the other King of make believe had that number at over 3 million illegals, of course his blue ribbon panel was broken up without finding any proof.


Coincidentally didn't trump lose the popular vote by around 3 million votes? :grin:


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Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky

You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free


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Re: Michael Cohen Forced to Reveal His Mystery Client Is Sean Hannity [Re: musiclover420]
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Michael Cohen has informed the court in the stormy Daniels lawsuit that he will plead the fifth amendment, and refuse to testify on his own behalf.

Let's review what Donald trump thinks about people who plead the fifth. Spoiler alert: "if you're innocent why are you talking the fifth?"



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Edited by koods (04/25/18 06:18 PM)

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Re: Michael Cohen Forced to Reveal His Mystery Client Is Sean Hannity [Re: musiclover420]
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musiclover420 said:
sweeper54 said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Stonehenge said:
the pop vote was manipulated with ballot stuffing and electronic machine sabotage, plus many many illegals voting. All of which has been documented and should be prosecuted along with hillary.


The king of make believe strikes again... without evidence, of course.


I believe the other King of make believe had that number at over 3 million illegals, of course his blue ribbon panel was broken up without finding any proof.


Coincidentally didn't trump lose the popular vote by around 3 million votes? :grin:


I'm sure Stonehen could find a reference for that.

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Re: Michael Cohen Forced to Reveal His Mystery Client Is Sean Hannity [Re: sweeper54]
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Trump also said both that Cohen doesn't have anything on him and that he doesn't think he'll flip. What does that even mean, how do you flip on nothing?

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