ballsalsa said:

Yeah, the difference there is that I explained why and provided some kind of evidence to support my claim.
I wonder when the opposition will be able to do the same...

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some internet article written by some journalist, who assumes everything about any study he stumbles across, that confirms his views, and them cobbles together his opinions in an article, isn't evidence.

but that's what you believe, and that'll never change. if you can grasp the logic of "they are one of the richest countries" "they have a much smaller population" ect ect as reasons why the two economies function differently, and thusly, why one system would not work for the other (due to those aforementioned reasons) then that's your problem not understanding the logic behind "you can't afford it".

The Ecstatic said:

Are you saying Americans do have money in savings?

Or are you, gasp, prevaricating?

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um, not really, but sure, ok, don't they have money in savings? methinks that they obviously do. but was that even the original question?

you people put everything in averages, that's your dumb problem, not mine.

ballsalsa said:

https://data.oecd.org

Healthcare spending per capita expressed in USD:
USA- 9, 892.3

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akira_akuma said:

ballsalsa said:

Yeah, the difference there is that I explained why and provided some kind of evidence to support my claim.
I wonder when the opposition will be able to do the same...

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some internet article written by some journalist, who assumes everything about any study he stumbles across, that confirms his views, and them cobbles together his opinions in an article, isn't evidence.

but that's what you believe, and that'll never change.

The Ecstatic said:

Are you saying Americans do have money in savings?

Or are you, gasp, prevaricating?

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um, not really, but sure, ok, don't they have money in savings? methinks that they obviously do. but was that even the original question?

you people put everything in averages, that's your dumb problem, not mine.

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oh and here is some "proof", right?

https://www.expatica.com/be/finance/Taxes-in-Belgium_100073.html
"The high level of Belgium’s tax rates has long been in contention with Belgium residents. The Belgian government, however, is working to improve Belgium’s tax situation with a raft of tax reforms introduced in 2015 to be implemented in the coming years"

^ proof. oh wait, let me call up their GOVERNMENT, and get them to send me statistics that shows they aren't exactly putting up the best work for these citizens, with said contentions...i'm SURE they'll send me that data as soon as they get around to collating it!

let's take a look at some comments there

"When you work hard and get awarded it's and award and recognition more for the government than yourself! It's not normal that anything gets taxed more than 50%. And at the same time all unemployed immigrants receive an unemployment package of 1000 eur while I work my ass off every single day and and get just a little more"

"My wife is from Belgium, the only reason i live here.
50% is the limit for me, however at Xmas I got a 3,000 bonus, after tax deductions i took home about 750 euros. I flet sick, i could not believe how much the goverment took form me. My company had to pay about 5,000 for me to get paid 3,000 and then they took again to leave me with 750....... Hahaha
Everything in Belgium costs more than anywhere else in the EU, cars, taxes on cars, car insureance, TV, internet, phones, food. Buying a house, you pay 15 plus % in taxes up front. Health care, you pay upfront and claim 20% back, doctors, hospitals Crazzy place.

If you work for a company, you have no chance of saving, every little euro you make, some one has a reason to take it off you.

Now, when you come here, you will see a LOT of big nice new cars, houses these people own thire companies and almost all do trads in black. The goverment take so much anyone and everyone who can, will do what they can to avoide paying taxes because of the groverment wanting more than you.

I have never seen so many expats leave because of the taxes."


also take nte:
"Belgian income tax is paid on the taxable base, which is determined from salary less (than) compulsory social security contributions"

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Yeah, the OECD data is just some internet article written by some journalist.  Take a deep breath.

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As far as saving goes, again, the data speaks for itself.  Most Americans have less than $1000 saved.  Meanwhile, 2/3 of belgians are saving an average of over $300 per month.

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"data speaks for itself"

you're practically out of your mind.

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Your taxable income is the income left after deductions for social security contributions, personal allowance, professional costs, etc.

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akira_akuma said:

you're practically out of your mind.

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What a surprise, people don't like paying taxes, and have anecdotes about why.
the numbers tell a different tale. 

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There's a thin line between madness and genius, my dude.

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Your taxable income is the income left after deductions for social security contributions, personal allowance, professional costs, etc.

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akira_akuma said:

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Your taxable income is the income left after deductions for social security contributions, personal allowance, professional costs, etc.

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yeah, holy shit, that sounds like it's going to be a problem as those programs grow in requisite necessity.

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ballsalsa said:

No, I just pulled it out of my ass, since that's what we do around here now.

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when a government does a study on itself you


believe it.

ballsalsa said:

why is that a problem?  Because there will be less and less income subject to income tax under your hypothetical?

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akira_akuma said:

when a government does a study on itself you


believe it.

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