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Re: Dems Finally Sobering Up. Establishment 2020 frontrunner Kamala Harris endorses single payer [Re: relic] * 2
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"The govt sucks and taxes suck so we should never do (thing that will improve society)."


Phew. That was a lot easier than having to think.


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Re: Dems Finally Sobering Up. Establishment 2020 frontrunner Kamala Harris endorses single payer [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
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poor and oversimplified retort, getting everyone, again, back to the beginning where we started, nice job.

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Re: Dems Finally Sobering Up. Establishment 2020 frontrunner Kamala Harris endorses single payer [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
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Mine had about twice as many words as yours.


Either way, I wish I didnt have to explain to keyzer how single payer works in every thread either, but he has brain worms.


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Re: Dems Finally Sobering Up. Establishment 2020 frontrunner Kamala Harris endorses single payer [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
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does shit stop sucking when we raise the poor over the shoulders of the giants?

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Re: Dems Finally Sobering Up. Establishment 2020 frontrunner Kamala Harris endorses single payer [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
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Shit will stop sucking by a considerable amount when we eat the giants.


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Re: Dems Finally Sobering Up. Establishment 2020 frontrunner Kamala Harris endorses single payer [Re: relic] * 1
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keyser_soze said:
they are just going to outsource the very same fucking private companies the lefties want publicly executed to handle claims. costs will remain the same. the government is just going to take their 10% off the top.


first off, 10% is 20% less then 30%, so that's a significant savings right there.
Second, what makes you think costs will remain the same?
Third, what makes you think the government will outsource those medical billing jobs that continue to exist?


relic said:
that claim definitely needs to be cited (by a source not named The Heritage Foundation).


I would be pretty surprised if even the heritage foundation made those claims.

Edit: Also, did you pull your 10% number out of your ass, or is there some reason you settled on 10%?

Edited by ballsalsa (09/14/17 09:50 AM)

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Re: Dems Finally Sobering Up. Establishment 2020 frontrunner Kamala Harris endorses single payer [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Shit will stop sucking by a considerable amount when we eat the giants.


and how do you plan to do that? also who is this "we"?


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Re: Dems Finally Sobering Up. Establishment 2020 frontrunner Kamala Harris endorses single payer [Re: Connoisseur] * 1
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Connoisseur said:
The Ecstatic said:
Shit will stop sucking by a considerable amount when we eat the giants.


and how do you plan to do that? also who is this "we"?


My plan is to debunk stupid right wing bullshit on the shroomery until i die of psychosis.


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Re: Dems Finally Sobering Up. Establishment 2020 frontrunner Kamala Harris endorses single payer [Re: The Ecstatic]
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1234GO!


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Re: Dems Finally Sobering Up. Establishment 2020 frontrunner Kamala Harris endorses single payer [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
My plan is to debunk stupid right wing bullshit on the shroomery until i die of psychosis.


now try doing both, convert.

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Re: Dems Finally Sobering Up. Establishment 2020 frontrunner Kamala Harris endorses single payer [Re: akira_akuma]
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lol you act like having malleable political opinions is an insult.


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Re: Dems Finally Sobering Up. Establishment 2020 frontrunner Kamala Harris endorses single payer [Re: The Ecstatic]
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i'm fucking teasing you, slightly. i convert ALLL the time. :smirk:

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Re: Dems Finally Sobering Up. Establishment 2020 frontrunner Kamala Harris endorses single payer [Re: akira_akuma]
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keyser_soze said:
like i said countless times before...they wont have money to live on (rent etc.), but by god they will have free tylenol!


How is no money for rent and no Tylenol better than no money for rent and free Tylenol???

akira_akuma said:
The Ecstatic said:
"The govt sucks and taxes suck so we should never do (thing that will improve society)."


Phew. That was a lot easier than having to think.


poor and oversimplified retort, getting everyone, again, back to the beginning where we started, nice job.


That was actually a perfect summary of keyser's thinking, which is indeed poor and was indeed getting us nowhere.


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Re: Dems Finally Sobering Up. Establishment 2020 frontrunner Kamala Harris endorses single payer [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
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akira_akuma said:
does shit stop sucking when we raise the poor over the shoulders of the giants?


I think we're trying to raise the poor out of the gutter is all.  :shrug:


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Re: Dems Finally Sobering Up. Establishment 2020 frontrunner Kamala Harris endorses single payer [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
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akira_akuma said:
i'm fucking teasing you, slightly. i convert ALLL the time. :smirk:


I'm a big fan of exposed midriff and a subtle lip bite. :pm:


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Re: Dems Finally Sobering Up. Establishment 2020 frontrunner Kamala Harris endorses single payer [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
akira_akuma said:
does shit stop sucking when we raise the poor over the shoulders of the giants?


I think we're trying to raise the poor out of the gutter is all.  :shrug:


Their going to be in the gutter...with free Tylenol.

All the social programs out there and poor are still poor. Their job is to literally get benefits and we are left to hold their hands cradle to grave.

But back to the electoral college/popular vote.  It seems the Democrats loved the electoral college until they lost. I'm sure they would have nothing to say if Hillary won the electoral college and Trump won the popular vote.

It's sickening hypocrisy.

Edited by keyser_soze (09/14/17 11:30 AM)

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Re: Dems Finally Sobering Up. Establishment 2020 frontrunner Kamala Harris endorses single payer [Re: keyser_soze]
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Because healthcare = tylenol


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Re: Dems Finally Sobering Up. Establishment 2020 frontrunner Kamala Harris endorses single payer [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Because free healthcare for people who never used it before = making them middle class.

Remember, if you give someone a benefit but they don't have assets they are still where they started.


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Re: Dems Finally Sobering Up. Establishment 2020 frontrunner Kamala Harris endorses single payer [Re: keyser_soze] * 1
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keyser_soze said:
Because free healthcare for people who never used it before = making them middle class.




No one's making that argument genius.

keyser_soze said:
Remember, if you give someone a benefit but they don't have assets they are still where they started.


Wrong, they now have healthcare genius.


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Re: Dems Finally Sobering Up. Establishment 2020 frontrunner Kamala Harris endorses single payer [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
I think we're trying to raise the poor out of the gutter is all.  :shrug:


sounds fancy. have you succeeded yet, i mean, ever?
plus, i'm poor...when am i gonna get help? oh yeah, never. i have healthcare...oooooooooo...never use it.

:shrug: and no education- considering our education system sucks. public education any time soon Trudeau? course not.

so no upward mobility then.

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