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Flipping burgers:Bush reclassifies it a manufacturing job
    #2377201 - 02/25/04 10:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Has anyone read the recently released Economic Report of the President? Congressman Dingell did. It seems that bush is manipulating the job market by reclassifying burger flipping as a manufacturing job.

http://www.house.gov/dingell/Manufacturing_letter_02-23-04.pdf

John D. Dingell
Member of Congress
http://www.house.gov/dingell/

Part of the letter:

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Chairman, Council of
Economic Advisers
Executive Office of the President
Washington, DC 20502

Dear Dr. Mankiw:

I noticed in the recently released Economic Report of the President that there was some consternation in the defining of manufacturing. It could be inferred from your report that the administration is willing to recognize drink mixing, hamburger garnishing, French/freedom fry cooking, and milk shake mixing to be vital components of our manufacturing sector.




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Re: Flipping burgers:Bush reclassifies it a manufacturing job [Re: mabus]
    #2377340 - 02/25/04 11:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

up is down, my friend.


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Re: Flipping burgers:Bush reclassifies it a manufacturing job [Re: afoaf]
    #2377353 - 02/25/04 11:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

And the guy selling hot dogs under the striped umbrella at the rest stop, its considered a factory.  :lol: God bless america.


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Re: Flipping burgers:Bush reclassifies it a manufacturing job [Re: mabus]
    #2377368 - 02/25/04 11:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

3 million new jobs by november or bust!


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Re: Flipping burgers:Bush reclassifies it a manufacturing job [Re: mabus]
    #2377565 - 02/26/04 01:01 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

See, I told you our manufacturing base wasn't dwindling...


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Re: Flipping burgers:Bush reclassifies it a manufacturing jo [Re: mabus]
    #2377911 - 02/26/04 03:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Dr. Mankiw is the guy who's the main person here, really.

He's also the guy who made the recent bogus jobs prediction that Bush had to back down on.

Here's the frightening thing: he and his group are among the primary economic advisors to Bush, and they are one of the main primary inputs to the budget - the one Bush just submitted.

Doesn't that just raise your confidence in that budget?


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Re: Flipping burgers:Bush reclassifies it a manufacturing job [Re: mabus]
    #2383464 - 02/27/04 03:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thought this would be an interesting read for some folks. Flipping burgers is a H.S. teenagers job. We have lost 2.7 million manufacturing jobs under bush.

Quote:

Bush Manipulates Stats To
Distort Economic Truth
The Daily Mis-Lead
2-27-4


President Bush, attempting to obscure his record as the worst economic steward since Herbert Hoover, has become so desperate that he is exploring ways to manipulate statistics.[1] Just days after Bush reneged on his pledge to create 2.6 million jobs[2] and said with a straight face that "5.6% unemployment is a good national number,"[3] the New York Times uncovered a White House report showing that the president is considering re-classifying low-paid fast food jobs as "manufacturing jobs"[4] as a way to hide the massive manufacturing job losses that have occurred during his term.

As CBS News reports, "Since the month President Bush was inaugurated, the economy has lost about 2.7 million manufacturing jobs." [5] But if the president enacts the statistical change he is considering, this number would be purposely obscured because lower-paying fast food jobs would be added to make the real manufacturing losses look smaller. Of course, fast food jobs typically pay much less and have fewer benefits than real manufacturing jobs, meaning the statistical change would also obscure the fact that, under Bush, "in 48 of the 50 states, jobs in higher-paying industries have given way to jobs in lower-paying industries."[6] All told, jobs in growing industries like lower-paid service sector/fast food jobs are paying 21% less than contracting industries like real manufacturing.

The president's efforts to manipulate statistics and mislead Americans are also getting a boost from his allies on Capitol Hill. Earlier this month, Senate Budget Committee Chairman Don Nickles (R-OK) pointed to an optimistic "household" jobs survey as proof that "we're at an all-time high in employment" and that "the employment situation has improved rather substantially."[7] The problem is that Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said definitively that "payroll data" - not the household survey - "is the series which you have to follow" in order to be accurate. The payroll data shows "a loss of more than two million jobs since 2001."

Sources: 1. "George Walker Hoover?", Slate, 04/30/2003. http://slate.msn.com/id/2082321/ 2. "Bush Backs Off Forecast of 2.6M New Jobs", ABC News, 02/18/2004. http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20040218_1948.html 3. Remarks by the President to the National Governors Association, 02/23/2004. http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/02/20040223-3.html 4. "In the New Economics: Fast-Food Factories?", New York Times, 02/20/2004. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/20/business/20jobs.html?pagewanted=print&position= 5. "Building Blue-Collar?Burgers?", CBS News, 02/20/2004. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/02/20/politics/main601336.shtml 6. Economic Snapshots, 01/21/2004. http://www.epinet.org/content.cfm/webfeatures_snapshots_archive_01212004 7. "Two Tales of American Jobs", New York Times, 02/22/2004. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/22/business/yourmoney/22view.html

http://www.misleader.org/daily_mislead/read.asp?fn=df02242004.html






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Re: Flipping burgers:Bush reclassifies it a manufacturing jo [Re: mabus]
    #2383973 - 02/27/04 06:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The way you make it sound, Bush is being dishonest by padding the manufacturing job numbers.

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:





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Re: Flipping burgers:Bush reclassifies it a manufacturing job [Re: mabus]
    #2386312 - 02/28/04 12:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

nice post mabus. I just read that article too.


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