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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: Learyfan]
    #1670011 - 06/28/03 08:34 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, he should have jumped up, shouted "Holy Shit the sky is falling", and launched a nuke at someone.

If he knew it was gonna happen, he or his advisors would have had him do something to make it appear he didn't.

You and I weren't there. We don't know what he was told. We don't know why he did what he did.

If you want to assume the worst.... go right ahead.


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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: MOTH]
    #1670014 - 06/28/03 08:36 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

That is actually untrue.



How is saying MANY here will blame Bush for everything untrue?

Perhaps you'll notice.... I didn't say ALL.


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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: ]
    #1670017 - 06/28/03 08:37 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

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Morrowind said:
I am definately not pro-Bush. I do see your claim as ridiculous though

Consider that Bush was a new president ( 1 year doesnt mean shit, he even took a month vacation for the hell of it ), and that he had no clue what to do. The secret service is commanded to protect him- and so they did. It was not his choice to be hidden the way he was, and its laughable to expect him to be in command of everything. He is most certainly not your king, in control of every aspect of his kingdom.

Interestingly enough, it WAS his choice to come OUT of the bunker. And he immediately went about trying to piece together his nation. Have you ever read any Greek literature? Try Creon by Sophocles for a start. Maybe it'll explain the concept of a nation and a leader more clearly





Save your breath. To so many sad individuals here, Bush is to blame for everything.

Always has been, always will be.


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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1670051 - 06/28/03 08:55 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm 46. I been disillusioned. Then I grew up.




Huh, so your ignorance is cultivated? How? Do you go to sleep with Limbaugh talking in your headphones?

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Try it someday. You'll soon learn not everything is a plot. Not everyone is out to get you.




Quite true. But equally true is the fact that *some* plot theories are true. Plots exist. Did you look at the cooperativeresearch page I cited, for example? Honestly, take 5 minutes and look at the timeline as quoted from mainstream sources, and then tell me that the Bush's ass still smells as good as you seem to think it does. Am I saying *he* knew? No, not necessarily. But the official story falls short of the mark, and this is an important enough issue that it shouldn't be let slide.


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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: somebodyelse]
    #1670060 - 06/28/03 08:59 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I read it long before you posted it here.

It was assinine then, it is now.

And no, I don't listen to Rush. I did for awhile when he was first making it big, he soon grew annoying. While he's right far more often then he's wrong, his style doesn't work for me.


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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: somebodyelse]
    #1670111 - 06/28/03 09:24 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

heh
neat how in this forum, everyone spits venom but tries to support it with something else.. Everyone

I wonder if this is off topic? What are the politics of attacking people instead of philosophy? Hm.. in early America, politicans often dueled and attacked their disagreeing peers. It seems that these "founding fathers" had quite a few things right. Today, politicians are basically sheep, but with different qualities of wool and occasionally varying colors.

But at the same time, violence follows more violence. Hmm.. it seems that violent politics move the system, but then.. it's impossible to achieve peace through politics..


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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1670114 - 06/28/03 09:26 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Why is it asinine?

Look, when a CEO is promoted, we expect him to be able to run the company from day 1. If he starts making fuckups, or melts under stressful conditions, he is booted.

Bush is the self-styled CEO of USA-incorporated. He had a year in office, which he felt comfortable enough in that he took a month off, as you so rightly point out. Then, something hits that he is required to deal with, and what does he do? Melt. As the site so clearly points out.

Your argument that he was new to office is ridiculous. The preseident of the United States is supposed to be able to deal with whatever comes his way.


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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: somebodyelse]
    #1670115 - 06/28/03 09:27 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

But I do give you credit for denouncing Rush. What about Savage? Actually, you probably like him, given your phraseology.


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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: somebodyelse]
    #1670122 - 06/28/03 09:33 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Actually, I said that.

Have you ever even taken basic history? Studied any on your own? The president has never, ever been very active in his first year. In fact, CEOs and ANY experts in any field are given a good amount of time to get used to the job. Is there any place to train for being president? For CEO? A good CEO is given a shitload of time to get his stuff together.

Why, exactly, do you think that there are many, many rich CEOs who are pathetically inept? It's a society of friends, not something based on actual skill


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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: ]
    #1670267 - 06/28/03 10:53 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

No need to be patronizing.

Bush is a former governor, a former CEO, he has a cabinet of experienced advisors, his father was president, he received some of the best preparatory education possible....so, yeah, I still think his crisis management skills should have been better than those which he exhibited. He had a shitload of time, he had all the advice he needed...the president's job is not supposed to include a 25% training period, he's supposed to *lead*.




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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: somebodyelse]
    #1670278 - 06/28/03 10:59 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

but of course, if they already knew that all of this was going to happen, then he would have no need to jump up and run off in a panic


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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: Strumpling]
    #1670285 - 06/28/03 11:03 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

He didn't. He sat there for 15 minutes talking about a goat after he'd been informed. He should have been getting his aircraft off the ground to intercept the planes that were known to be hijacked but were still in the air. Read the timeline link that I posted....you'll see what I mean.


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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: somebodyelse]
    #1670298 - 06/28/03 11:13 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

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No need to be patronizing.



Well, I'm sorry. Im fairly insane.
Again, I apologize
it's really not nice of me to act that way..


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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: ]
    #1671421 - 06/29/03 02:26 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I just figured out this whole concept some of you are pushing. You actually think he knew about 9/11 before it happened. You are worse off then I thought. That is the most ridiculous crap I have ever heard.


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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: shakta]
    #1671424 - 06/29/03 02:27 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I don't necessarily think he knew, but it's certainly within the realm of possibility.


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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: silversoul7]
    #1671519 - 06/29/03 03:16 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Monkeys might fly out off my ass too, and giant see monsters might attack New York. I think these two things are more likely.


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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1671524 - 06/29/03 03:17 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

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Yeah, he should have jumped up, shouted "Holy Shit the sky is falling", and launched a nuke at someone.




No, he should have asked questions. When America was under attack he sat in a classroom reading a book to kids.


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If he knew it was gonna happen, he or his advisors would have had him do something to make it appear he
didn't.




Yeah exactly. They booked an appearance at a Elementary school.


Just answer my questions. Why did he not:

FIND OUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING(whatever Card whispered in his ear couldn't have covered it all)?

Find out if he(the only person who as the authorization to) needed to shoot down a civilian airliner headed for The Pentagon or Pennsylvania?

Why didn't the secret service whisk him away?

Just answer the questions




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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: Learyfan]
    #1671530 - 06/29/03 03:21 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I already have, and you ignored the answers.


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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: shakta]
    #1671540 - 06/29/03 03:27 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

What? No you didn't. You wrote this and then changed the subject to the 2000 election:

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Alright. I think they were perfectly safe there. The Secret Service does a pretty good job
of protecting the President. Maybe they knew something some guy writing a story on the
internet didn't. Maybe not. The point is hindsight is 20/20. Was it a mistake? I have no
idea. Obviuosly nothing happened. It makes it sound like he was some evil lazy fucker that
just sat there as we got attacked. What was he expected to do? Run down the street
screaming. They were probably waiting to get a little more info, and enact a plan to get
him out of there. Which they did shortly thereafter.








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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: Learyfan]
    #1671557 - 06/29/03 03:41 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

That was my answer. I trust the secret service knew what they were doing. You apparently expected him to go into a panic. No one knew what was going on for sure at the time. It was chaos. They formed their plan for removing the president and did it. Judging from the cartoons in your sig, nothing anyone says will matter anyway. You, my friend, are on the edge of reality. You are an extremist, no better than the far right Christians that I am sure you so despise. Try a little balance in your political thought. It will open your mind to all kinds of ideas you would have never considered before.

As far as shooting down planes go, we did not know how many planes were off course at the time, so shooting them down was not an option. I guess they could have just shot everything in the sky down. Would that have been safe enough for you?


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